scooterskydives 0 #1 June 23, 2012 .... after all my years of jumping I have finally found something that I can say is really challenging being a smaller female tandem master, and that is the length of my arms and shooting handycam. I am using a Chutingstar GoPro glove. I wish there was a go go gadget extension. Someone please invent one... lol So, have any others of you found this harder and what did you do..?If God wanted man to stay on the ground. He would of put roots on them instead of feet. loving life GO-N-UP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #2 June 23, 2012 Quote.... after all my years of jumping I have finally found something that I can say is really challenging being a smaller female tandem master, and that is the length of my arms and shooting handycam. I am using a Chutingstar GoPro glove. I wish there was a go go gadget extension. Someone please invent one... lol So, have any others of you found this harder and what did you do..? Simple: Use outside video instead.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scooterskydives 0 #3 June 23, 2012 Geez... Why didn't I think of that.... lolIf God wanted man to stay on the ground. He would of put roots on them instead of feet. loving life GO-N-UP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #4 June 23, 2012 Telescoping glove mount...'The Scooter Stick' is on the drawing board! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scooterskydives 0 #5 June 23, 2012 YES!!! And I will buy it!!! If God wanted man to stay on the ground. He would of put roots on them instead of feet. loving life GO-N-UP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parachutist 2 #6 June 23, 2012 You can offset your upper body a little to the left, either by pushing off the student with your arms, or by spinning hard to the left. It makes a pretty good difference when you add a few inches this way. My arms are pretty long, but I learned this trick from a friend who's more vertically challenged. I use it when I'm taking big guys and I want their whole body in the shot. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #7 June 23, 2012 After you buy it please STOP doing tandems. A TI should stay a TI & the camera work should be done by a Camera flyer. It is not the size of the Handycam but what it takes away from your main duty = TI only. IMO as a UPT/USPA T I/E. Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abedy 0 #8 June 23, 2012 QuoteA TI should stay a TI & the camera work should be done by a Camera flyer. +1The sky is not the limit. The ground is. The Society of Skydiving Ducks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #9 June 23, 2012 I intend to never do handycam... we will see how long that lasts though How are you holding your arm out? How does the shot look? I have seen go pro extensions, however there's no way in hell I'd ever suggest one of those for a TI doing handycam. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5.samadhi 0 #10 June 23, 2012 seems like starting with a stupid idea (handcam while facilitating a tandem skydive) and adding a stupid idea (extending the device causing a snag point and really interfering with dexterity quite a bit too). but at least the tandem student knows enough to know that its a dangerous idea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VTmotoMike08 0 #11 June 23, 2012 Simple. Put the handycam on the student.. Tell them to hold it steady and look into it as much as they want and you are good to go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobMoore 0 #12 June 23, 2012 Do you charge a student to video themselves?"For you see, an airplane is an airplane. A landing area is a landing area. But a dropzone... a dropzone is the people." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VTmotoMike08 0 #13 June 23, 2012 I don't actually put it on the student, that was sarcasm. But if I did, yes I would charge them for it. The camera isn't free and the editor needs to get paid too. If they want to bring their own $1000 worth of go pros and gloves, then sure I would let them shoot their own video for free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #14 June 24, 2012 Quote If they want to bring their own $1000 worth of go pros... That is a freeflier's amount of GoPros...for what I paid for mine that would be a total of 5! All of this discussion and no one has suggested attaching one to the bottom of the drogue. Then you'd get any sized TI in frame with out having to have one a GoPro taped to the end of a broom handle... --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #15 June 24, 2012 Quote Quote If they want to bring their own $1000 worth of go pros... That is a freeflier's amount of GoPros...for what I paid for mine that would be a total of 5! All of this discussion and no one has suggested attaching one to the bottom of the drogue. Then you'd get any sized TI in frame with out having to have one a GoPro taped to the end of a broom handle... Too much shake in the video. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 June 24, 2012 Quote Quote Quote If they want to bring their own $1000 worth of go pros... That is a freeflier's amount of GoPros...for what I paid for mine that would be a total of 5! All of this discussion and no one has suggested attaching one to the bottom of the drogue. Then you'd get any sized TI in frame with out having to have one a GoPro taped to the end of a broom handle... Too much shake in the video. Soooo...just like a handicam?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #17 June 24, 2012 Quote Soooo...just like a handicam? Nope, WAY worse. Being a video guy, I say get outside video. Being a TI, I say get outside video. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EatSleepFly 0 #18 June 24, 2012 QuoteSimple. Put the handycam on the student. I know of one dropzone that does. I'm sure there are others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCaptain 2 #19 June 24, 2012 I am not sure how short you are but one of the best handicam instructors I know is 5'8" tall. I know that a lot of skydivers feel handicam is horrible and there are a lot of examples that prove that statement; however handicam can look realy good and is a true art form to do well. As another has stated stretch your arm and extend your shoulder too. Also a really good lens helps if you are useing a sony camcorder, I found the Century Mark II .3 is extremely clear and great clariityKirk He's dead Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #20 June 24, 2012 If they want to bring their own $1000 worth of go pros and gloves, then sure I would let them shoot their own video for free. Quote How 'bout a $199.00 GoPro naked and a roll of duct tape? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #21 June 24, 2012 Quote I intend to never do handycam... we will see how long that lasts though Tandem video is a job. You can let the outside guy do HIS job, or you can do your own student hand job. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #22 June 24, 2012 QuoteI know that a lot of skydivers feel handicam is horrible.... The only one's who like handcam are the ones getting paid to do it.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #23 June 24, 2012 ... or you can do your own student hand job. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2vkiLHiTcY ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #24 June 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteI know that a lot of skydivers feel handicam is horrible.... The only one's who like handcam are the ones getting paid to do it. DZO's who operate 182's and can keep expenses and retail prices lower because of them like them. Students who can't afford a full video package like them. Everyone who reaps a benefit from more DZ exposure because of the product like them. TI's who haven't seen a raise in this industry for 20 years like them. TI's who are tired of having to put up with shit head 300 jump wonders hammering into them just because they are the only ones who will do video for crap pay and no product standards, like them. Stop crucifying those that have developed the skill, and have approached the activity with safety first and foremost in mind.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #25 June 24, 2012 No opinion either way...but just curious JP, what does an outside Tandem vidiot get these days? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
