Rover 9 #1 January 27, 2011 Was chucked on again today. Have a tandem to chuck ratio of 1 in 750. 2 males, 2 females. What are your 'stats'? 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #2 January 27, 2011 I'm so sorry to hear that Freefall or under canopy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liftedtitan 0 #3 January 27, 2011 Quote I'm so sorry to hear that Freefall or under canopy? Man I have never heard of someone puking in freefall! that would suck huge balls. Anyone have that happen to them?Moriuntur omnes, sed non omnes vixerunt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 409 #4 January 27, 2011 I never had the pleasure in my tandem days - but I'd sure like to grab some TV cash if I ever catch some high-speed spew on video. Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 January 27, 2011 Around 1500 tandems, 2 that lost it. One in the air, the other I was able to help keep them together until we landed. I started to tell people that if they thought they were going to throw up, to stick their face (nose and mouth) inside the collar of their shirt. It would help them breath, you know, because we're up high... --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parachutist 1 #6 January 27, 2011 I'm at about 3 out of 2,750. After the initial puke I felt sorry for the guy until we landed and his friends said "Dude you always puke on the roller coasters! We knew you'd do it here!" He never said a word about it during training or on the plane. %$##$*!!!! Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #7 January 27, 2011 I have had 1 or 2 in 3500 or so tandems, sigma harnesses help alot."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 127 #8 January 27, 2011 Quote Was chucked on again today. Admit it, you just make people sick........My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vanair 0 #9 January 27, 2011 3000+ tandems never had a puker, like to think I'm proactive, only as wild as they want it. if they get quiet I talk to them. also if they do feel ill I do slow turns when needed, and have them look at the horizon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
divingos 0 #10 January 27, 2011 1500+ tandems and 2 chuckers. One right off the step - bachelor party the night before. The other one was a girl as we landed. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyGoat 0 #11 January 28, 2011 Wow, it seems pretty uniform. I had 1 chucker out of 750 myself. It was under canopy._________________________ goat derka jerka bukkake jihad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skydave103 0 #12 January 28, 2011 Quote3000+ tandems never had a puker, like to think I'm proactive, only as wild as they want it. if they get quiet I talk to them. also if they do feel ill I do slow turns when needed, and have them look at the horizon. 1800+ and 0 pukers. always ask how the feel after doing a big turn. if they felt bad we don't do any more bug turns. It also helps to slide the leg straps down a few inches (i do that on every jump) so they sit rather than hang. also makes landing easier as they can get their feet up. It also helps to let them steer on the big turns. being in control is always better!! if your afraid of that let them steer until 1K then take over. there is NOTHING they can do to cause a problem before that. Let them have some fun. Direct them where to go and teach them why you want/need to go there. havent tried having them looking at the horizon. I will give that a shot on next one. ThanksLifeshouldNOTbeajourneytothegravewithawellpreservedbody,buttskidinsideways,cigarinone hand,martiniintheother,bodythoroughlyused upandscreaming:"WOO HOO!! What a ride!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #13 January 28, 2011 Never thought I'd see the day...instructors bitchin' about a free hot meal! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liemberg 0 #14 January 28, 2011 Quote Never thought I'd see the day...instructors bitchin' about a free hot meal! [Crazy] They are not bitching over the free hot meal, but over the fact that it ruins their free T-shirt. (one per 750 seems about right, IMO...) "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
divingos 0 #15 January 28, 2011 It wasn't a free meal - It was more like free stale beer that was fermenting in his bile!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abedy 0 #16 January 28, 2011 1st: Haven't had any pukers yet, but two guests I was happy to have gotten down as gently as possible so they didn't have to eat backwards But I haven't done that many tandems yet so I'm thankful for any hints @vanair: Sounds like you could have been my TIE 'cause he gave me the same tips. Except one thing - I only let them "help me steer" until about 500 m (~1600 ft) I found that the "help me steer"-thing works with all passengers regardless how strong or fit they are. It's not that they have to pull down the toggles like mad, it's just that they know what's gonna happen, to feel "in control". There were a few who didn't like to; so in these cases I also refrained from any abrupt turns etc. BTW: No matter what you will tell them, half of the passengers will try to slide their hands into my toggles but then realise that there's a second pair of toggles "just underneath my toggles" / "the lower pair of them" /"them toggles down there" and then happily grab them "Toggle-participation" and refraining from stomach-challenging manoeuvres (360s etc) really helps a lot as well as sliding their leg straps a little down so they can sort of "sit" - which also helps to prevent fainting (less pressure on major arteries in their thighs). BTW: In case of feeling nauseous: We have "puke bags" handy in a small pocket on the back of the passengers' harnesses. I grabbed some of these bags on my last two flights and ... well, other passengers nearby were rather puzzled. "I'm collecting these bags" seemed to be more appropriate than explaining tandem stuff... Using these bags is better than having them puke into their overalls; that's what I was told at least The sky is not the limit. The ground is. The Society of Skydiving Ducks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abedy 0 #17 January 28, 2011 Some years ago a TI at a DZ in Germany did (at about 150 m; 500 ft) a 180° turn, "rather quickly" as sources report with a passenger who already felt sort of queasy. Doing this manoeuvre right above a bistro patio resulted in a spectacular result as sources report. I dunno if it's true at all, but at least the "source" made all of us TI-to-be laugh... and think a little later. Some TIs here at my DZ got puked at and IIRC the ratio is roughly the same; about 750:1. Maybe it's a global constant The sky is not the limit. The ground is. The Society of Skydiving Ducks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propacker 0 #18 January 28, 2011 3500+ tandems and got barfed on more times than I can count. being down in Houston, most of the time it was in Aug/Sept due to the heat. usually began around 1500' when we hit the hot air from the ground. I used to carry a plastic bread bag with me with the hopes they would use that instead of the jumpsuit/harness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abedy 0 #19 January 28, 2011 This video (attn: Soundtrack might be offensive, explicit language!), again: This video was mentioned on a German skydivers' forum as it should show someone vomiting in freefall. I got to admit that I didn't see any puke (mainly due to the poor video quality, not even in the slo-mo sequence at 1:26') OK, spinning like this might indeed provoke someone feeling green about the gills, especially after a generous breakfast (and maybe a couple beers the night before). Well, I also seriously doubt there's any "hard" video evidence for a freefall barf...The sky is not the limit. The ground is. The Society of Skydiving Ducks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjumper 25 #20 January 29, 2011 i have around 2000 tandems with 4-5 pukers. About 3 years ago we started using Sea-Bands. They are a small elastic band with a hard dot that is centered on the wrist. Supposedly they press on an accupressure point that helps prevent nausea. A lot of the cruise lines and fishing boats use them.They have dramaticaly reduced the number of pukers. I don't know if it's a mental or physical thing but they really seem to work! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #21 January 29, 2011 I don't know if it's a mental or physical thing but they really seem to work! Quote So does duct tape... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trap_door 0 #22 January 29, 2011 In the last two years (1000+ Tandems) I had two Pukers and three fainters..... All part of life's rich tapestry... Won't be the last time I'm sure! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #23 February 2, 2011 2500 tandems and maybe 10 pukers. One girl told me just before door that she knew she would throw up. I said "Ok, let's go!" She had only taken in blue gatorade, so had "Smerf puke". Years ago we had two sisters, they both threw up. First indication either of us had on those two was a warm wet feeling on our legs. With hand cam I always ask them to try to get it past us to the left. I stick the camera about a foot above their head for really cool footage. At edit I run it slow mo both forward and reverse. Just as well have fun with it! MartinExperience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris74 0 #24 February 2, 2011 Oh man, Are you a sadistic Tandem master ? Blue sky & may the force be with you Xtophe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rover 9 #25 February 2, 2011 To date I've tried to not capture the 'chraf' in the hope that I could still sell the vid. 100% fail on on the sales so the next one will filmed. Thanks for the tip on camera placement. I wasn't wearing a jumpsuit on the last one and copped it all over my right arm - got a free T shirt from the boss for my troubles though. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
