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what do you guys charge for just stills?
QuoteSo, the two GoPros are stacked one on top of the other, or side by side? Is the glove something that you guys put together? Would you post a picture of it?
Also, nice job on the video it was pretty stable. Looks good.
Thanks!
They're stacked on top of each other, but the top cam is offset to the rear enough to allow access to record button and mic on the bottom cam. Side-by-side would have made it more of a hassle to remove cards and to plug in power cables... that's why we chose stacked. Some photos are on my page (scroll down past the single-cam glove).
http://www.funjump.com/products.html
The design is finalized now, so in a few days I'll update that page with more closeup photos of the final rev.
Chris
Quotewhat do you guys charge for just stills?
Currently $69 for either photo or video, $99 for both
$89 video or Pictures
$120 for both
CX-12 for video or video and pictures
GoPro with Funjump.com gloves for pictures
On 2011 season we wanna use GoPro for video and pictures with dual GoPro glove.
I wish I could jump with my CX-12 and take pictures with my GoPro all the time.
I tried to combine both together and the final product was GREAT but the glove set up was awful. ![[:/]](/uploads/emoticons/dry.png "[:/]"){kind=small}
I'll try it again with a CX-110/150.
No Drogue, no JUMP!!
Quote$89 video or Pictures
$120 for both
CX-12 for video or video and pictures
GoPro with Funjump.com gloves for pictures
On 2011 season we wanna use GoPro for video and pictures with dual GoPro glove.
I wish I could jump with my CX-12 and take pictures with my GoPro all the time.
I tried to combine both together and the final product was GREAT but the glove set up was awful.I'll try it again with a CX-110/150.
Pricing is a bit of an issue for me. A friend told me about a video and still package that his girl friend and daughter purchased while swimming with dolphins. Something like $130 for a person to come out, stand at the end of the dock, run video and shoot some stills. Seems a bit over priced, but folks must be purchasing it at that price.
So, do we set the price at what the market will bear, or more along the lines of what the value would be considering a high level of competition. I can see the argument from both sides. Though, my instinct is to set it at a point such that the DZ makes a descent profit, the TI is fairly paid, and the customer goes away with the feeling that they got a good product at a reasonable price. I'd rather have my customers bragging on the service they received as opposed to telling their friends "It was fun but that they gouge you on the video!" Have to balance profit with customer satisfaction.
Customers walking away with a warm fuzzy feeling pays in increased customer traffic in the end. Contrast the situation with Skyride, every darn one of their "customers" ends up with a bad taste in their mouth and a bad opinion of not only Skyride, the DZ that trades with Skyride, but most likely the whole skydiving industry.
All that said, I'm raising my prices next year, though probably to $75 for hand cam video with GoPro stills. Then maybe $45 or $50 for stills only. Isn't technology fun!?
Martin
Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else.
AC DZ
AC DZ
QuoteAll that said, I'm raising my prices next year, though probably to $75 for hand cam video with GoPro stills. Then maybe $45 or $50 for stills only. Isn't technology fun!?
If you set it up as $50 for one, or $75 for both, you can push the add-on as being 'half price'.
Another thing that used to work well for us (on outside video, but the idea is the same) is to shoot both on every jump, and go for the after-sell on anything not prepaid. There's always the chance that non-video customers will pick up one or both, or that single option customers will kick in for the other one after the jump.
One last idea, if you can figure out a way to do this without too much trouble, dump any unpurchased video or stills onto a hard drive of some sort and save them for a month. Print up a 'flyer' for any customers who didn't buy both video and stills that explains that you save the footage for a month, and that it's available for purcahse at any time during that month, with $5 added for shipping.
We did this with stills back when we were shooting 35mm. We shot them on every jump, then tried to sell them after they had seen the video. Any rolls that didn't sell were labeled with the customer name/date, and tossed in a box. Pretty close to half of those rolls were purchased after the fact, and mailed to the customer. Once we transitioned to digital stills, the video/stills package became the only option, so this is not a factor any more, but the idea worked well at the time.
QuoteQuoteAll that said, I'm raising my prices next year, though probably to $75 for hand cam video with GoPro stills. Then maybe $45 or $50 for stills only. Isn't technology fun!?
If you set it up as $50 for one, or $75 for both, you can push the add-on as being 'half price'.
Another thing that used to work well for us (on outside video, but the idea is the same) is to shoot both on every jump, and go for the after-sell on anything not prepaid. There's always the chance that non-video customers will pick up one or both, or that single option customers will kick in for the other one after the jump.
One last idea, if you can figure out a way to do this without too much trouble, dump any unpurchased video or stills onto a hard drive of some sort and save them for a month. Print up a 'flyer' for any customers who didn't buy both video and stills that explains that you save the footage for a month, and that it's available for purcahse at any time during that month, with $5 added for shipping.
We did this with stills back when we were shooting 35mm. We shot them on every jump, then tried to sell them after they had seen the video. Any rolls that didn't sell were labeled with the customer name/date, and tossed in a box. Pretty close to half of those rolls were purchased after the fact, and mailed to the customer. Once we transitioned to digital stills, the video/stills package became the only option, so this is not a factor any more, but the idea worked well at the time.
Not a bad idea at all. With the GoPro stills, we dump them to a dated file with the student's name on the computer so it's easy to find. I purchased a 1 terabite external hard drive which I dump the contents from the 250 meg laptop drive when it's nearing capacity. At the rate our small DZ goes, the 1TB drive will fill up in 10 to 20 years.
The video we're still running mini DV, those are dated and go into a box. As long as we don't run short of blank tapes, and resort to taping over they're there as well.
One thought on the stills only thing was that the TI wouldn't need to carry the "large" mini DV camera, and just go with the GoPro in a glove.
I'm all about making money, but would rather really soft sale the additional stuff. They didn't go for the full package because they didn't have or didn't want to spend the money. So, maybe simply show them the stills, or rough video and let it be go unsaid but obvious that they can "up-sale." We've all dealt with the student (at least those of us who deal with the money) who show up with a raged envelope full of cash. They start off with $20s, then $10s, and eventually a bunch of $1s. I feel like I'm taking their lunch money, of course I still take it.
Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else.
AC DZ
AC DZ
riggerrob 558
That reminds me of a scam run by a (now defunct) DZ in Alberta.
Shortly before Christmas, they would phone "next of kin" and offer to sell them video and still photos of their "dear little Johnny" skydiving.
The DZ turned such a HUGE profit - from photo sales - that they no longer cared about DZ operating costs and offered $49 (IAD) first jump courses. Even during the 1990s, it cost most other DZs $149 - or more - to run FJC.
Thank God Transport Canada ran that DZO out of business!
Shortly before Christmas, they would phone "next of kin" and offer to sell them video and still photos of their "dear little Johnny" skydiving.
The DZ turned such a HUGE profit - from photo sales - that they no longer cared about DZ operating costs and offered $49 (IAD) first jump courses. Even during the 1990s, it cost most other DZs $149 - or more - to run FJC.
Thank God Transport Canada ran that DZO out of business!
Also, nice job on the video it was pretty stable. Looks good.
AC DZ
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