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riggerrob 558
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That would explain your narrow attitude.
While chicken handles may be optional on Sigmas, they are MANDATORY on all training and refresher dives done on Strongs.
To rephrase: if you do a TI refresher dive on a Strong - without chicken handles - you just scored ZERO!
To look at it from another angle, Parachutes de France takes chicken handles so seriously, that they permanently sew the Velcro (for chicken handles) to the shoulders of their tandem student harnesses.
To clarify, most tandem manufacturers encourage/demand/insist on chicken handles during TI training dives, but real students should never see chicken handles.
Rob Warner
Strong Tandem Examiner
CSPA Rigger Examiner
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That would explain your narrow attitude.
While chicken handles may be optional on Sigmas, they are MANDATORY on all training and refresher dives done on Strongs.
To rephrase: if you do a TI refresher dive on a Strong - without chicken handles - you just scored ZERO!
To look at it from another angle, Parachutes de France takes chicken handles so seriously, that they permanently sew the Velcro (for chicken handles) to the shoulders of their tandem student harnesses.
To clarify, most tandem manufacturers encourage/demand/insist on chicken handles during TI training dives, but real students should never see chicken handles.
Rob Warner
Strong Tandem Examiner
CSPA Rigger Examiner
AGREED!
I went on plenty of jumps with my ex as the passenger when he was refreshing and always had chicken handles and always checking/touching handles as part of his/my piece of mind that if anything did happen, I was trained and prepared to handle the situation.
I went on plenty of jumps with my ex as the passenger when he was refreshing and always had chicken handles and always checking/touching handles as part of his/my piece of mind that if anything did happen, I was trained and prepared to handle the situation.
pchapman 261
At one DZ I jump at one is just expected to be current. Do the 90-day refresher jump w. an experienced jumper (>100 jumps) and that's OK.
At another DZ the DZO, who is pretty conservative, also has a spring tandem instructor meeting (as well as a meeting for other instructors, the videographers, etc.). (Hint to riggerrob: DZO's first name is Joe.)
At both DZ's one pays slots plus a significant tandem gear rental fee for the refresher jump. (The fee isn't that much different than what I saw at a ratings school in Z-hills lately though.)
The DZO is a tandem instructor so he usually supervises the session, although sometimes some senior tandem instructor at the DZ might organize parts of it.
In the meeting we watch the ancient UPT tandem training video again. Technically we're supposed to see it every 6 months but for those of us who have seen it a few times, it gets rather boring. A lot of it is pretty antiquated, or no longer applicable to the Sigma we jump.
We also write the tandem instructor tests again and correct them. It really isn't bad to review all that stuff every year. (Various non-applicable non-Sigma questions are edited out). The DZO keeps the tests so he's got proof that his staff have had annual recurrent training.
Chicken handles? We made some up but many of us don't bother for the currency jump.
During the meeting we also talk over tandem issues, and in the past I've often put together all of the DZ's tandem related incident reports and anecdotes from the previous year to use as discussion material.
By the end of the meeting it has probably degenerated into the usual arguing about manifest, pay, tandem policies, and so on. :)
All the spring meetings are a bother, and the DZO does stretch things out longer than necessary, including things we instructors don't feel are important. Still, having some sort of spring instructor meeting to all get together and discuss issues and policies is something I like to see.
At another DZ the DZO, who is pretty conservative, also has a spring tandem instructor meeting (as well as a meeting for other instructors, the videographers, etc.). (Hint to riggerrob: DZO's first name is Joe.)
At both DZ's one pays slots plus a significant tandem gear rental fee for the refresher jump. (The fee isn't that much different than what I saw at a ratings school in Z-hills lately though.)
The DZO is a tandem instructor so he usually supervises the session, although sometimes some senior tandem instructor at the DZ might organize parts of it.
In the meeting we watch the ancient UPT tandem training video again. Technically we're supposed to see it every 6 months but for those of us who have seen it a few times, it gets rather boring. A lot of it is pretty antiquated, or no longer applicable to the Sigma we jump.
We also write the tandem instructor tests again and correct them. It really isn't bad to review all that stuff every year. (Various non-applicable non-Sigma questions are edited out). The DZO keeps the tests so he's got proof that his staff have had annual recurrent training.
Chicken handles? We made some up but many of us don't bother for the currency jump.
During the meeting we also talk over tandem issues, and in the past I've often put together all of the DZ's tandem related incident reports and anecdotes from the previous year to use as discussion material.
By the end of the meeting it has probably degenerated into the usual arguing about manifest, pay, tandem policies, and so on. :)
All the spring meetings are a bother, and the DZO does stretch things out longer than necessary, including things we instructors don't feel are important. Still, having some sort of spring instructor meeting to all get together and discuss issues and policies is something I like to see.
I am still learning, like the girl who was double jointed in get shoulders. But to call me arrogant is an insult.
Johnny
--"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!"
Mike Rome
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