BMichaeli 1 #1 February 14, 2014 Hey everyone today is the last day to take advantage of iFly Chicago's pre-opening sale. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=517028965077429&set=a.481871315259861.1073741828.475809709199355&type=1&theater Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #2 February 14, 2014 dang that's expensive for pre opening price.... what are the regular prices ? our pre-opening in Switzerland is the same per hour than the 10-19 hours in Chicagoscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamUK 3 #3 February 14, 2014 Same as the uk Super user account for 10 hours and that includes 20% VAT (out equivalent to GST) ). What are the regular rates? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doug_Davis 0 #4 February 15, 2014 Wow...then what are your regular rates going to be? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #6 February 19, 2014 Any idea if that includes coaching? Also, what size tunnel is this going to be?cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #7 February 20, 2014 Coaching is not included. It is a 14 foot design that is a clone of the new style iFly tunnels. Recirculating, any time enter/exit, etc. Its basically a new version of Austin/Dallas. These are looking to be standard price ranges for all the new tunnel designs that iFly is making right now.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #8 February 20, 2014 PhreeZoneCoaching is not included. It is a 14 foot design that is a clone of the new style iFly tunnels. Recirculating, any time enter/exit, etc. Its basically a new version of Austin/Dallas. These are looking to be standard price ranges for all the new tunnel designs that iFly is making right now. Interesting. I suppose for someone who doesn't need to do team training and just needs 1 v 1 coaching, these newer, larger tunnels are a harder sell.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #9 February 20, 2014 grue***Coaching is not included. It is a 14 foot design that is a clone of the new style iFly tunnels. Recirculating, any time enter/exit, etc. Its basically a new version of Austin/Dallas. These are looking to be standard price ranges for all the new tunnel designs that iFly is making right now. Interesting. I suppose for someone who doesn't need to do team training and just needs 1 v 1 coaching, these newer, larger tunnels are a harder sell. Yes and no. I think if you compare the first generation (Orlando/Perris) 12 footers with the next generation recirculating 12-footers (SF Bay, NH, CO, UT) there's a noticeable difference in quality. But yeah, do you really need a 14 footer vs. a 12 footer for 1:1 training? Probably not. But if it's a choice between hitting the 14-footer in your backyard once a week (for a higher rate) where you can play with your local friends, or traveling to a 12-footer every so often for more intensive sessions, well, then you just have to figure out what works best for you and your goals. (And of course, do the math on whether better rates at a smaller tunnel offset the travel costs you'll add to go to one)."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #10 February 20, 2014 NWFlyer******Coaching is not included. It is a 14 foot design that is a clone of the new style iFly tunnels. Recirculating, any time enter/exit, etc. Its basically a new version of Austin/Dallas. These are looking to be standard price ranges for all the new tunnel designs that iFly is making right now. Interesting. I suppose for someone who doesn't need to do team training and just needs 1 v 1 coaching, these newer, larger tunnels are a harder sell. Yes and no. I think if you compare the first generation (Orlando/Perris) 12 footers with the next generation recirculating 12-footers (SF Bay, NH, CO, UT) there's a noticeable difference in quality. But yeah, do you really need a 14 footer vs. a 12 footer for 1:1 training? Probably not. But if it's a choice between hitting the 14-footer in your backyard once a week (for a higher rate) where you can play with your local friends, or traveling to a 12-footer every so often for more intensive sessions, well, then you just have to figure out what works best for you and your goals. (And of course, do the math on whether better rates at a smaller tunnel offset the travel costs you'll add to go to one). Yeah for me currently it's a choice between: Fly to Sydney and use their tunnel at $1,600US/hr (hahah get fucked greedballs). Fly to the US, and pick between Hollywood, SF Bay, or Colorado. I've never flown any of them, but each has compelling arguments. …but once I move back to the US, I'll be in the midwest at first, almost equidistant between Colorado and Chicago. On-season I'd probably just organize a trip with my locals to SDC + tunnel, but off-season I see no compelling reason not to go to Colorado unless I were doing team training.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #11 February 20, 2014 NWFlyerYes and no. I think if you compare the first generation (Orlando/Perris) 12 footers with the next generation recirculating 12-footers (SF Bay, NH, CO, UT) there's a noticeable difference in quality. SkyVenture lists SF Bay as a 1000 hp tunnel, whereas NH, CO, and UT are 1200 hp (and Orlando/Perris/Milton Keynes are listed as 1000 hp also), which may also factor? Anyone know what the power of the new (Austin, Dallas, Downunder, Seattle) 14-footers are? It isn't quoted on the SkyVenture website but all these tunnels quote "upto 160 mp/h wind speeds", whereas Manchester (and although not stated, I believe Basingstoke also, both are 14 ft.) is 180 mp/h from 1600 hp (recirculating as opposed to the 1600 hp of Arizona and Alcantarilla which are also 14 ft). QuoteBut yeah, do you really need a 14 footer vs. a 12 footer for 1:1 training? My point being if you are a bigger guy wanting to learn head-down or a 4-way VFS, is 1200 hp enough? Maybe in 12 ft, but 1000 hp would be a struggle, especially for a lazy/uncoordinated guy like me! Solution for that is topped out speed isn't it? :-PSkydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWPoul 1 #12 February 20, 2014 cpoxonMy point being if you are a bigger guy wanting to learn head-down or a 4-way VFS, is 1200 hp enough? Maybe in 12 ft, but 1000 hp would be a struggle, especially for a lazy/uncoordinated guy like me! Solution for that is topped out speed isn't it? :-P 1600 HP is enough for 16ft for 12ft you need approx 1.7-1.8 less power to be equal to 16ft So 1000 hp seems enough if their airduct is well ingeneeredWhy drink and drive, if you can smoke and fly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamUK 3 #13 February 20, 2014 4 way vfs topped out at Manchester can be feel quite slow on a hot day. I guess I should stop my pie-eating and get some talent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianyapxw 0 #14 February 21, 2014 Why haven't you considered iFly Singapore, or if you are still doing belly, Skyventure Genting? Skyventure Genting is by far the cheapest at $400 USD/hr Edit: How bout Dubai as well? I heard tickets are cheap due to Emirates and the tunnel is relatively affordable and good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #15 February 21, 2014 ianyapxwWhy haven't you considered iFly Singapore, or if you are still doing belly, Skyventure Genting? Skyventure Genting is by far the cheapest at $400 USD/hr Edit: How bout Dubai as well? I heard tickets are cheap due to Emirates and the tunnel is relatively affordable and good. Singapore is about the same ripoff level as Sydney will be, far more cost effective to go stateside. Genting won't do since I'm a freeflyer. Dubai I have ethical issues with.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianyapxw 0 #16 February 21, 2014 All I'll ask is have you tried emailing Ryan Chee ([email protected])? May I know what's wrong with Dubai? I've only been 'in the scene' for months so I've got not idea what's the issue with Dubai and am interested to know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #17 February 21, 2014 ianyapxwMay I know what's wrong with Dubai? I've only been 'in the scene' for months so I've got not idea what's the issue with Dubai and am interested to know. You don't have to be a skydiver to have an opinion on Dubai as a country that might also extend to businesses within the country, including dropzones and tunnels."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianyapxw 0 #18 February 22, 2014 Ahh. Sorry for living under a rock, but what's wrong with dubai? I'll assume it's similar to what's going on in most of the world (South America, China, India, most of Middle East). Underpaid workers, bad working conditions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #19 February 22, 2014 ianyapxw Ahh. Sorry for living under a rock, but what's wrong with dubai? I'll assume it's similar to what's going on in most of the world (South America, China, India, most of Middle East). Underpaid workers, bad working conditions? We have a whole forum devoted to political discussions. In the interest of keeping this focused on the tunnels, I'll just say do your own research and form your own opinions. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianyapxw 0 #20 February 22, 2014 -sigh- All I wanted to do is find out grue's opinions, not to discuss political issues, just a simple answer is what I wanted. edit: ok, read wiki, got it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites