marx597 0 #1 December 11, 2009 Anyone know where I can get a condom for my rig so i can practice with it on in the tunnel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dsams 0 #2 December 11, 2009 I am not sure about other tunnels but at paracletexp they are not allowed. Another good option is to take out the parachutes and use other material. Parachutes are designed to open, thats their job. If any material comes out it will be without a doubt a fatality. Rig condoms are not a good idea. But like skydiving a lot of bad ideas are allowed so use your own judgement and just be careful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svnh 1 #3 December 12, 2009 We have allowed them at SkyVenture NH as long as all medal hardware is covered. I saw one a while back that was made ( maybe by a rig company ) that was really nice. Keep looking they are out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #4 December 12, 2009 I believe Rigging Innovations in Eloy makes some.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 422 #5 December 14, 2009 Quote If any material comes out it will be without a doubt a fatality. Hos do you figure that?Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkverner 0 #6 December 14, 2009 Simple. Open parachute in tunnel, rapid deceleration, high speed impact with the top of the tunnel. ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 422 #7 December 14, 2009 QuoteSimple. Open parachute in tunnel, rapid deceleration, high speed impact with the top of the tunnel. So the tunnel is what - 20 feet tall? How much negative acceleration would you get in that much distance? Hell, the canopy would barely have line stretch when it hit the top.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkverner 0 #8 December 14, 2009 Its 56 feet tall. If you dont know what you're talking about dont post. I would love to have you come here and see for yourself. ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #9 December 14, 2009 People have gotten hurt in wind tunnels by going up to the top too fast in just a suit and hitting the top of the tunnel hard. I don't think anyone would be able to survive the impact if a canopy came out.Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 422 #10 December 14, 2009 Quote Its 56 feet tall. If you dont know what you're talking about dont post. I would love to have you come here and see for yourself. Actually Mr. V, we discover things we don't know by posting our thoughts and getting responses - unless of course you don't want people to know more about your tunnel. My knowledge of today's tunnels is very incomplete. I wasn't aware that they were that tall. I can certainly see how a tunnel deployment could be fatal. Thanks for informing me about your tunnel. Maybe it will also inform someone who was afraid to post for fear of being told not to.More flies with honey, Kirk. I'll go to Denver where they send reps out to recruit at places like Raeford during Skyfest.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psychonaut 0 #12 December 14, 2009 Quote Quote Its 56 feet tall. If you dont know what you're talking about dont post. I would love to have you come here and see for yourself. Actually Mr. V, we discover things we don't know by posting our thoughts and getting responses - unless of course you don't want people to know more about your tunnel. My knowledge of today's tunnels is very incomplete. I wasn't aware that they were that tall. I can certainly see how a tunnel deployment could be fatal. Thanks for informing me about your tunnel. Maybe it will also inform someone who was afraid to post for fear of being told not to.More flies with honey, Kirk. I'll go to Denver where they send reps out to recruit at places like Raeford during Skyfest. +3Stay high pull low Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #13 December 14, 2009 QuoteMy knowledge of today's tunnels is very incomplete. I wasn't aware that they were that tall. I can certainly see how a tunnel deployment could be fatal. Whether the tunnel is 56 feet tall like XP or not, there are going to be huge problems if there is a deployment. First, you are going to shoot up and slam into the top. That will probably cause a fatality. Then the canopy is going to get sucked up through the turning vanes or directly into the fan blades depending on the type of tunnel. While this is happening, you'll be getting slammed around. I imagine the tunnel would probably stop working since the fans will be tangled with material and lines. When that happens, you'll either fall back down or be stuck up there. I don't see any part of that process being survivable. QuoteActually Mr. V, we discover things we don't know by posting our thoughts and getting responses - unless of course you don't want people to know more about your tunnel. Your response didn't come across to me like you were posting your thoughts, I thought it sounded like you were shooting down what Kirk posted. That's just my interpretation though.Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bliston 0 #14 December 14, 2009 Instead of making or buying a rig condom - another way to go it to convert and old container into a tunnel rig. I made them for my team a few years ago by covering all the exposed hardware so that there was nothing that could scratch up the tunnel. Then I simply cut out high density foam to fill the containers and also inserted weights to match what each person's container weighed. The last step was simply to close up the containers semi-permanently by routing 1500 lb. dacron through the grommets of both the main and reserve and then sealing it with a knot. I used 5lb plates as the base weight and then added individual lbs of weight belt style weights to match them to each persons regular rigs. No handles, no parachutes, no way for the containers to open. They worked out well for our team... BenMass Defiance 4-wayFS website sticks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #15 December 15, 2009 man kirk I need to get my big ass over to n.c. and try that tunnel of yours out. been wanting to since it opened. and heard you were running it. haven't seen ya since the sparta illinois days.. plus this fat old man want's to learn to sitfly. think that tunnel will hold up a 250 lb man in a sit fly position?? i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funfall 0 #16 December 20, 2009 I saw a team wearing what appeared to be dummie rigs, or real ones with condoms, several days ago at Paracletexp. I was told by a local coach (not with that team) that they were their regular rigs, with covers, but I don't know if that's true. (Saying anything else about it is speculation on my part. Don't know if Paracletexp makes some exceptions, if they were not really working rigs, or what. Kirk is probably the one with an answer.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #17 December 21, 2009 QuoteAnyone know where I can get a condom for my rig so i can practice with it on in the tunnel. Rigging Innovations makes rig covers for tunnel use. They call it the "Tunnel Wrap." I have a photo of one somewhere, if I can find it, I'll post it. Some tunnels won't allow a cover to be used. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrishines 0 #18 January 8, 2010 I saw the French 4-way VFS team (Team 4 Speed?) with covers on their Vectors the other week. They looked nice and secure. They had additinal wraps for their handles. They told me everything was made by a rigger at their home DZ in France (Brienne I think). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soulbabel 0 #19 January 30, 2010 You can see their rig covers in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drahzLwLQ6A#t=1m17s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
