tunnelmom 0 #26 January 13, 2009 Here is a list of teams registered for the Summitt Challenge so far. This is a total of 40 teams, we have room for 45 teams total. Once we are at 45 teams, we will not be able to take any additional registrations. 2 Way FS PRO Team name TBA Laura Lewis & Thomas Hughes Smells Awesome Dave Brown & Meili Modini Mayhem Front Half Bob Meister & Russ Moran Viscious & Delicious Craig Julien & Kim Smith The Old Guys Mike Dridgen Ted Bechtel Rob DeVoto Never-Was Has-Beens Brian Vande Krol & Courtney Frasch Team Future RK Rusty Lewis & Kayla Tinucci Team Future DJ Dan Perry & Justin Tinucci 2 Way FS Intermediate Oh Hot Damn Courtney Ewing & Chelsea Whitcomb Ari Perelman & Yvonne San Pteam Ptarmigan Traci VanWoensel & Kipp Chambers Sparkle Motion Mike Silva & Christina Tegano 4 Way VFS Pro NorCal MX Bill Halsey / Javier Muniz / Randy Ashley / Kris Reynolds Mandrin Hybrid Dave Brown / Thomas Hughes Scott Plammer / Kyle Stark / Derek Cox Ari Perelman / Meili Modini / Noah Bahnson / Fritz 4 Way VFS Intermediate Team Name: EOS Dona Jones / Emiko Taylor / Kate Hoffstetter / Melissa Andrzejewski Team Future Justin & Kayla Tinucci / Dan Perry / Rusty Lewis 2 Way Artistic Pro Captain Kork Scott Plammer & Brian Erler Smells Awesome Dave Brown & Meili Modini Team Future Justin & Kayla Tinucci Fly Your Element Mike Silva & Josh Evans Antigravity XP Josh D'Annunzio & Alex Verner Isa-Adventure Team Zach & Boozie 2 Way VFS Pro SoCal Converge Andy Malchiodi & Travis Fienhage Captain Kork Scott Plammer & Brian Erler Team Name:Smells Awesome Dave Brown & Meili Modini Team name: TBA Ari Perelman & Rusty Lewis Aerial Assasins TJ Landoren & Brad Chatellier Team Awesome Kris Reynolds & Melissa Andrzejewski Shake & Bake MX Bill Halsey & Dona Jones Magic Man's El Diablo Javier Muniz & Kate Hoffstetter Fly Your Element Mike Silva & Josh Evans Team Future Justin & Kayla Tinucci Team Name: TBA Scott Levesque & Brad Cole 2 Way VFS Intermediate Team iFriends Randy Ashley & Emiko Taylor Team Orion Bob Meister & Angela Pudenz Axiom Kevin Vance & Matt Burge Team Name: TBA (AFA) Katie & Josh Team Blackout Brett Dashe & Andy Klobnock Team Name: TBA Steven Silva & Brooke Griffin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkverner 0 #27 January 13, 2009 Impressive lineup. For all the local skydivers and tunnel fliers that aren't competing, I would arrive early for a front row seat. ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunnelmom 0 #28 January 17, 2009 UPDATE January 16th, 2009 JUST TWO DAYS LEFT TO REGISTER! With 42 teams registered, we are nearly at capacity for this event, so we will be closing registrations for all events on Sunday January 18th at 10pm. WARMUP TIMES WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR FRIDAY JANUARY 30TH FROM 8PM TO 11 PM ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS. IF YOU WANT TO UTILIZE WARMUP TIME, PLEASE BE AT THE TUNNEL NO LATER THAN 8PM FRIDAY. WE WILL START SCHEDULING EXACT SLOTS FOR TEAMS AT 6PM FRIDAY JUST BEFORE THE HUCK JAM. THE PURPOSE OF THE WARMUP TIME IS TO DETERMINE YOUR WIND SPEED FOR EACH EVENT AND TO RELAY THAT TO THE MEET DIRECTOR. THE DRAW FOR EACH EVENT WILL BE COMPLETED JUST AFTER THE WARMUP TIMES HAVE BEEN FINISHED. THIS WILL BE POSTED ON THE SVCO WEBSITE JUST BEFORE MIDNIGHT ON JANUARY 30TH. All huck jam sessions are full except Wednesday Evening from 8:30 to 9:30. There are 3 spots left in the Wednesday Huck Jam. We are hoping that another 4 way VFS intermediate team will sign up for the competition-- If anyone is interested in being part of a 4 way VFS intermediate pick up team, please contact Jennifer Tinucci -- we are taking names for people who are interested to help coordinate an additional intermediate team. The party on Saturday at 6:30 pm will include a catered Barbeque dinner and drinks and there will be 8 free pool tables to play at. The party is in the ballroom at the Brunswick Zone directly across the street from the tunnel. The dinner is included in your registration fee. There will be an additional charge for people who are not registered participants, so please let Jennifer know if you will have additional guests at the barbeque who are not registered for the event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teamlf 0 #29 January 18, 2009 Due to the fact that Hybrid Mandrin has never competed together before we have decided to change to the intermediate class. Plamer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #30 January 19, 2009 Sandbaggers...Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunnelmom 0 #31 January 19, 2009 UPDATE JANUARY 18TH 2009 Please see the TENTATIVE schedule below-- please note this is subject to change. There have also been a few changes to teams below as well. We have a total of 42 teams competing in this event. Please arrive a minimum of 45 minutes before your event is scheduled to begin. This is our most up to date information! Final schedules and team information will be included in registration packets. Summit Challenge Schedule Tentative event schedule—this is subject to change! Friday January 30th 6pm to 8pm – Huck Jam Please arrive for the huck- jam by 5:30 8pm to 11 pm – Warm-up times We will begin taking names for the warm-up schedule at 6pm Friday. This is your chance to determine your exact wind speeds for each event, there will not be any other time allotted for this, so if you need to determine your speeds, please plan to attend the warm-ups. 11pm – Competition Draw Midnight --- Draw will be posted on SVCO website Saturday January 31st 7am—Teams arrive at SVCO 7:15 am to 7:45 am Mandatory competitors briefing 7:45 am to 8:15 am—Dirt Diving for 4 Way VFS Teams 8:15 am to 8:55 am -- 4 Way VFS Pro and Intermediate, rounds 1-3 8:55am to 9:05am BREAK 9:05am to 11 am-- 2 Way FS (Belly)Pro and Intermediate Rounds 1-4 11 am to 11 : 15 am BREAK 11:15 am to 11:55 am Artistic – all teams Rounds 1, 2 11:55 am to 12:45 pm Artistic Video Judging and LUNCH—there will be sandwiches for sale from a local deli just outside the building 12:45 pm to 3:20 pm – 2 Way VRW Pro and Intermediate Rounds 1-4 3:30 pm to 4:30 pm VFS Judging—video 6:30 pm to ? Party/BBQ at the Brunswick Zone! The Brunswick Zone is just across the street from SkyVenture Colorado and the party will be in the Ballroom . Entrance for each registered event participant is free and includes 2 alcoholic beverages, unlimited soft drinks, dinner, pool tables and door prizes. Please RSVP to Jennifer if you are not a registered participant but will be attending the BBQ! Sunday February 1st 7: 30 am—Teams arrive at SVCO 7:45 am to 8:15 am—Dirt Diving for 4 Way VFS Teams 8:15 am to 8:55 am -- 4 Way VFS Pro and Intermediate, rounds 4-6 8:55am to 9:05am BREAK 9:05am to 11 am-- 2 Way FS (Belly)Pro and Intermediate Rounds 5-8 11 am to 11 : 15 am BREAK 11:15 am to 11:55 am Artistic – all teams Rounds 3,4 11:55 am to 12:45 pm Artistic Video Judging and LUNCH—there will be sandwiches for sale from a local deli just outside the building 12:45 pm to 3:20 pm – 2 Way VRW Pro and Intermediate Rounds 5-8 3:30 pm to 4:30 pm VFS Judging—video 4:30 pm to 5:30 pm – Awards ceremony 2 Way FS PRO Team name TBA Laura Lewis & Thomas Hughes Team name tba Dave Brown & Jessica Edgingtion Mayhem Front Half Bob Meister & Russ Moran Viscious & Delicious Craig Julien & Kim Smith The Old Guys Mike Dridgen Ted Bechtel Rob DeVoto Never-Was Has-Beens Brian Vande Krol & Courtney Frasch Team Future RK Rusty Lewis & Kayla Tinucci Team Future DJ Dan Perry & Justin Tinucci 2 Way FS Intermediate Oh Hot Damn Courtney Ewing & Chelsea Whitcomb Ari Perelman & Yvonne San Pteam Ptarmigan Traci VanWoensel & Kipp Chambers Sparkle Motion Mike Silva & Christina Tegano 4 Way VFS Pro yeah ya do MX Bill Halsey / Javier Muniz / Randy Ashley / Kris Reynolds Ari Perelman / Meili Modini / TJ Landgren / TBA Team Future Justin & Kayla Tinucci / Dan Perry / Rusty Lewis 4 Way VFS Intermediate Team Name: EOS Dona Jones / Sean Hennessey / Kate Hoffstetter / Melissa Andrzejewski Mandrin Hybrid Dave Brown / Thomas Hughes Scott Plammer / Kyle Stark / Derek Cox 4 Way VRWhat? Scott Levesque Derek Vanboschoeton Mike Silva Josh Evans 2 Way Artistic Pro Aerial Assassins TJ Landgren & Brad Chatellier Captain Kork Scott Plammer & Brian Erler Team name TBA Dave Brown & Derek Cox Team Future Justin & Kayla Tinucci Fly Your Element Mike Silva & Josh Evans Antigravity XP Josh D'Annunzio & Alex Verner Isa-Adventure Team Zach Sabel & Matthew Boozy Freiheit 2 Way VFS Pro SoCal Converge Andy Malchiodi & Travis Fienhage Captain Kork Scott Plammer & Brian Erler Team Name:TBA Dave Brown & Meili Modini Team name: TBA Ari Perelman & Rusty Lewis Aerial Assassins TJ Landgren & Brad Chatellier Team Awesome Kris Reynolds & Melissa Andrzejewski Shake & Bake MX Bill Halsey & Dona Jones Magic Man's El Diablo Javier Muniz & Kate Hoffstetter Fly Your Element Mike Silva & Josh Evans Team Future Justin & Kayla Tinucci Team Name: TBA Scott Levesque & Brad Cole 2 Way VFS Intermediate Team iFriends Randy Ashley & Emiko Taylor Team Orion Bob Meister & Angela Pudenz Axiom Kevin Vance & Matt Burge Team Name: TBA (AFA) Katie & Josh Team Blackout Brett Dashe & Andy Klobnock Team Name: Wing It Laura Lewis & Brooke Griffin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunnelmom 0 #32 January 21, 2009 Please note we have no additional space for this event, we are booked solid with 45 teams! It's gonna be a great weekend! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunnelmom 0 #33 January 22, 2009 UPDATE 1/21/2009 A note to all of the Summit Challenge competitors - There has been some queries about the specifics of a rule posted about the competition regarding entrance procedure for 2 way VFS and 4 way VFS. As with other similar wind tunnel competitions utilizing the same rules as these I would like to clarify the following for all competitors; For the 2-way VFS competition in both the PRO and INTERMEDIATE Category, all teams will begin each round from the entrance door of the tunnel, the time starts the moment a team members feet leave the floor and enter into the wind. For the 4-way VFS competition in both PRO and INTERMEDIATE Category, all teams will begin each round with all team members standing on the net inside the tunnel, the time starts the moment a team members feet leaves the net. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused, and I hope this clarifies the specifics of the rules. If there are any questions feel free to contact me directly via email [email protected] Thanks and good luck! Rusty Lewis Meet Director P.S. The Competition Draw will be posted at midnight Friday January 30th on the Summit Challenge page at www.skyventurecolorado.com at this link: http://skyventurecolorado.com/index.php?page=1012 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_squared431 0 #34 January 22, 2009 QuoteUPDATE 1/21/2009 A note to all of the Summit Challenge competitors - There has been some queries about the specifics of a rule posted about the competition regarding entrance procedure for 2 way VFS and 4 way VFS. As with other similar wind tunnel competitions utilizing the same rules as these I would like to clarify the following for all competitors; For the 2-way VFS competition in both the PRO and INTERMEDIATE Category, all teams will begin each round from the entrance door of the tunnel, the time starts the moment a team members feet leave the floor and enter into the wind. For the 4-way VFS competition in both PRO and INTERMEDIATE Category, all teams will begin each round with all team members standing on the net inside the tunnel, the time starts the moment a team members feet leaves the net. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused, and I hope this clarifies the specifics of the rules. If there are any questions feel free to contact me directly via email [email protected] Thanks and good luck! Rusty Lewis Meet Director P.S. The Competition Draw will be posted at midnight Friday January 30th on the Summit Challenge page at www.skyventurecolorado.com at this link: http://skyventurecolorado.com/index.php?page=1012TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1 I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VivaHeadDown 0 #35 January 28, 2009 Holy Crap! It's almost here! Woo Hoo! Don't Confuse Me With My Own Words Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunnelmom 0 #36 February 1, 2009 Here are the results after day one of competition! Draws are listed below. The scores by round will be posted along with final results tomorrow. 2 Way FS Pro Team Future RK 143 Points Rusty Lewis & Kayla Tinucci Good Times 131 Points Laura Lewis & Thomas Hughes Team Future DJ 113 Points Dan Perry & Justin Tinucci Random Variation 109 points Ari Perelman & Yvonne Saa Mayhem Front Half 88 points Bob Meister & Russ Moran Viscious & Delicious 80 points Craig Julien & Kim Smith The Old Guys 75 Points Mike Dridgen, Ted Bechtel, Rob DeVoto Smells Awesome Dave Brown & Jessica Edgington 66 points 2 Way FS Intermediate Chucks 141 Points Timmy Miltenberg and Grant Keaton Groove 119 points Alicia Douges and Chris Yuen EAC BP 110 points Justin Nurth and Joe Brundidle EPIC FP 105 points Gabe Guzman Cameron Rochelle Oh Hot Damn 97 points Courtney Ewing & Chelsea Whitcomb Pteam Ptarmigan 93 points Traci VanWoensel & Kipp Chambers Sparkle Motion 81 points Mike Silva & Christina Tegano 4 Way VFS Pro Yeah Ya Do 72 Points MX Bill Halsey, Javier Muniz, Randy Ashley, Kris Reynolds Mandrin Hybrid 68 points Dave Brown, Thomas Hughes, Scott Plammer, Kyle Stark, 4 Way VFS Intermediate Team Future 82 Points Justin & Kayla Tinucci, Dan Perry, Rusty Lewis Team Big Deal 62 points Dona Jones, Sean Hennessey, Kate Hoffstetter, Melissa Andrzejewski 4 Way VRWhat? 34 points Scott Levesque, Derek Vanboschoeton, Mike Silva, Josh Evans 2 Way VFS Pro SoCal Converge 118 points Andy Malchiodi & Travis Fienhage Magic Man's El Diablo 101 points Javier Muniz & Kate Hoffstetter Fly Your Element 96 points Mike Silva & Josh Evans Team Future 95 points Justin & Kayla Tinucci Pimp my ride 95 points Ari Perelman & Rusty Lewis Team Awesome 91 points Kris Reynolds & Melissa Andrzejewski Shake & Bake 78 points MX Bill Halsey & Dona Jones SkyVenture Colorado Skool Boys 75 points Scott Levesque & Brad Cole Captain Kork 71 points Scott Plammer & Brian Erler Mandrin First Class 4 points Thomas Hughes and Jessica Edgington 2 Way VFS Advanced Aerial Assassins 78 points TJ Landgren & Brad Chatellier Axiom 67 points Kevin Vance & Matt Burge Team iFriends 61 points Randy Ashley & Emiko Taylor 2 Way VFS Intermediate Wing It 63 points Laura Lewis & Brooke Griffin Team Jettison 59 points Bob Meister & Angela Pudenz Team Blackout 58 points Brett Dashe & Andy Klobnock Pork Chop Sandwiches 54 points Katie Kennedy & Josh Reddis 2 Way Artistic Pro Fly Your Element 1st place Mike Silva & Josh Evans Team Future 2nd Place Justin & Kayla Tinucci Antigravity XP 3rd Place Josh D'Annunzio & Alex Verner Aerial Assassins 4th Place TJ Landgren & Brad Chatellier Captain Kork 5th place Scott Plammer & Brian Erler Isa-Adventure Team 6th place Zach Sabel & Boozie Freheit The draw is listed below: 4 - WAY VFS (PRO) Round 1: 7 - 12 Round 2: 11 - 6 Round 3: 1 - C - 9 Round 4: H - G - K - 5 Round 5: 2 - 8 Round 6: A - 10 - J 4 - WAY VFS (INT) Round 1: 3 D Round 2: 11 - 1 Round 3: C - 9 Round 4: K - 2 Round 5: 8 - A Round 6: 10 - J 2 - WAY BELLY (PRO) Round 1: 7 -3 Round 2: 1 - 5 Round 3: 14 - 9 Round 4: 13 - C - A Round 5: 16 - D - 15 Round 6: F - 8 - 4 Round 7: 10 - E - 2 Round 8: 12 - 6 2 - WAY BELLY (INT) Round 1: 4 -2 Round 2: F - 3 Round 3: 10 - 11 Round 4: 13 - C Round 5: 1 - 8 Round 6: 12 - D Round 7: E - 5 Round 8: A - 14 2 - WAY VFS (PRO) Round 1: BF.9 - BF.12 - BF.5 Round 2: HU.1 - HU.10 - HU.8 Round 3: HU.5 - HU.12 - HU9 Round 4: HD.13 - HD.12 Round 5: HD.3 - HD.9 - HD.2 - HD.8 Round 6: HD.11 - HD.15 Round 7: HD.4 - HD.14 - HD.10 Round 8: HD.7 - HD.6 - HD.5 - HD.1 2 WAY VFS (INT + ADV) Round 1: BF.9 - BF.12 Round 2: BF.5 - BF.13 Round 3: BF.7 - BF.4 - BF.3 Round 4: HU.1 - HU.10 Round 5: HU.8 - HU.5 - HU.12 Round 6: HU.13 - HU.6 Round 7: HU.11 - HU.3 Round 8: HU.4 - HU.2 - HU.7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunnelmom 0 #37 February 2, 2009 The final results for the Summit Challenge are in! Congratulations to all of the competitors! It was a great weekend with some fantastic flying and close races! 2 Way FS Pro 1st place: Team Future RK 310 Points Rusty Lewis & Kayla Tinucci 2nd Place Good Times 294 points Laura Lewis & Thomas Hughes 3rd Place Team Future DJ 250 Points Dan Perry & Justin Tinucci 4th Place Random Variation 234 points Ari Perelman & Yvonne Saa 5th Place 177 points Mayhem Front Half 88 points Bob Meister & Russ Moran 6th Place176 points The Old Guys Mike Dridgen, Ted Bechtel, Rob DeVoto 7th place Viscious & Delicious 174 points Craig Julien & Kim Smith 8th Place Smells Awesome 151 points Dave Brown & Jessica Edgington 66 points 2 Way FS Intermediate 1st Place Chucks 264 Points Timmy Miltenberg and Grant Keaton 2nd Place Groove 246 points Alicia Douges and Chris Yuen 3rd place 235 points Pteam Ptarmigan Traci VanWoensel & Kipp Chambers 4th Place 218 points EAC BP Justin Nurth and Joe Brundidle 5th Place EPIC FP 204 points Gabe Guzman Cameron Rochelle 6th Place 185 points Oh Hot Damn Courtney Ewing & Chelsea Whitcomb 7th place Sparkle Motion 149 points Mike Silva & Christina Tegano 4 Way VFS Pro First Place 149 points Yeah Ya Do MX Bill Halsey, Javier Muniz, Randy Ashley, Kris Reynolds Second Place Mandrin Hybrid 143 points Dave Brown, Thomas Hughes, Scott Plammer, Kyle Stark, 4 Way VFS Intermediate First Place Team Future 166 Points Justin & Kayla Tinucci, Dan Perry, Rusty Lewis Second Place Team Big Deal 116 points Dona Jones, Sean Hennessey, Kate Hoffstetter, Melissa Andrzejewski 3rd Place 4 Way VRWhat? 64 points Scott Levesque, Derek Vanboschoeton, Mike Silva, Josh Evans 2 Way VFS Pro First Place SoCal Converge 212 points Andy Malchiodi & Travis Fienhage Second Place Team Future 210 Points Justin & Kayla Tinucci Third Place Fly Your Element 204 points Mike Silva & Josh Evans Fourth Place 193 points Magic Man's El Diablo 101 points Javier Muniz & Kate Hoffstetter Fifth Place 191 points Pimp my ride Ari Perelman & Rusty Lewis Sixth Place Team Awesome 173 Points Kris Reynolds & Melissa Andrzejewski 7th Place 172 Points Shake & Bake MX Bill Halsey & Dona Jones 8th Place 143 points SkyVenture Colorado Skool Boys Scott Levesque & Brad Cole 9th Place 133 points Captain Kork Scott Plammer & Brian Erler 10th Place Mandrin First Class 4 points Thomas Hughes and Jessica Edgington 2 Way VFS Advanced First Place 174 points Aerial Assassins 78 points TJ Landgren & Brad Chatellier Second Place 163 Points Axiom 67 points Kevin Vance & Matt Burge Third Place 121 points Team iFriends Randy Ashley & Emiko Taylor 2 Way VFS Intermediate First Place Wing It 145 points Laura Lewis & Brooke Griffin Second Place Team Blackout 137 points Brett Dashe & Andy Klobnock Third Place 132 Points Team Jettison 59 points Bob Meister & Angela Pudenz Fourth Place 101 points Pork Chop Sandwiches Katie Kennedy & Josh Reddis 2 Way Artistic Pro Fly Your Element 1st place 564 points Mike Silva & Josh Evans Team Future 2nd Place 560 points Justin & Kayla Tinucci Antigravity XP 3rd Place 432.5 points Josh D'Annunzio & Alex Verner Aerial Assassins 4th Place 414.5 points TJ Landgren & Brad Chatellier Captain Kork 5th place 322.5 points Scott Plammer & Brian Erler Isa-Adventure Team 6th place 277 points Zach Sabel & Boozie Freheit The draw is listed below: 4 - WAY VFS (PRO) Round 1: 7 - 12 Round 2: 11 - 6 Round 3: 1 - C - 9 Round 4: H - G - K - 5 Round 5: 2 - 8 Round 6: A - 10 - J 4 - WAY VFS (INT) Round 1: 3 D Round 2: 11 - 1 Round 3: C - 9 Round 4: K - 2 Round 5: 8 - A Round 6: 10 - J 2 - WAY BELLY (PRO) Round 1: 7 -3 Round 2: 1 - 5 Round 3: 14 - 9 Round 4: 13 - C - A Round 5: 16 - D - 15 Round 6: F - 8 - 4 Round 7: 10 - E - 2 Round 8: 12 - 6 2 - WAY BELLY (INT) Round 1: 4 -2 Round 2: F - 3 Round 3: 10 - 11 Round 4: 13 - C Round 5: 1 - 8 Round 6: 12 - D Round 7: E - 5 Round 8: A - 14 2 - WAY VFS (PRO) Round 1: BF.9 - BF.12 - BF.5 Round 2: HU.1 - HU.10 - HU.8 Round 3: HU.5 - HU.12 - HU9 Round 4: HD.13 - HD.12 Round 5: HD.3 - HD.9 - HD.2 - HD.8 Round 6: HD.11 - HD.15 Round 7: HD.4 - HD.14 - HD.10 Round 8: HD.7 - HD.6 - HD.5 - HD.1 2 WAY VFS (INT + ADV) Round 1: BF.9 - BF.12 Round 2: BF.5 - BF.13 Round 3: BF.7 - BF.4 - BF.3 Round 4: HU.1 - HU.10 Round 5: HU.8 - HU.5 - HU.12 Round 6: HU.13 - HU.6 Round 7: HU.11 - HU.3 Round 8: HU.4 - HU.2 - HU.7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
