Para5-0 0 #1 September 10, 2012 I am curious to ask others about the pro rating. I am sure most of you probably do this out of the kindness of your hearts but do any of you charge for a pro rating? I am getting more and more coming up to me for the ground school and to monitor them as they navigate the proficiency card. It is getting to be a bit much. Does anyone out there charge to oversee a skydiver getting a pro rating? Just as a FYI I have never but I have definately pondered it. Thanks, Rich Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #2 September 10, 2012 A dedicated structured course format might actually pull more into the fold."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #3 September 10, 2012 I have a PowerPoint used for the Pro-Rating course, assembled from a couple courses I've taken, advice from Twardo, and my own experiences. I've paid for Pro Rating courses, and people like Bob Edmiston run flag/smoke courses where a lot can be learned. Jim Wallace also has such a paid-for course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #4 September 10, 2012 If it's sign offs that I can simply verify, then no, but if I'm doing training, then yes I get paid.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjumper 25 #5 September 10, 2012 Jim Wallace (as noted earlier) does it as a 2 day course. He includes instruction on everything on the card and provides the smoke, flags, and banners. He also provides detailed instruction on filing the FAA paperwork and observes the jumps. He charges $300 for the whole course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 173 #6 September 10, 2012 I'm working on a two day course at my DZ to cover all of the aspects of the Pro rating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Para5-0 0 #7 September 10, 2012 Thanks for input, It seems the rating has become something that is expected of the S&TA or senior guys and it is getting to be burdensome. I am not complaining dont get me wrong just trying to get an idea of what is happening elsewhere. I think I like the two day structured course idea. This was Ican dedicate myself to it as opposed to fitting it in where I can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #8 September 16, 2012 QuoteI am curious to ask others about the pro rating. I am sure most of you probably do this out of the kindness of your hearts but do any of you charge for a pro rating? I am getting more and more coming up to me for the ground school and to monitor them as they navigate the proficiency card. It is getting to be a bit much. Does anyone out there charge to oversee a skydiver getting a pro rating? Just as a FYI I have never but I have definately pondered it. Thanks, Rich Depends on what all you're talking about Rich. I've often freely assisted interested candidates with flags, smoke, accuracy and the like when it's convenient and I have the necessary hardware with me... I've also charged for dedicated instruction when a person or group wants to receive all the pertinent instruction over a given weekend with a more structured format. I supply all the 'props' and the number of actual jumps often varies with the persons performance level. I tend to be rather critical when it comes to demo safety and set pretty high standards. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deisel 35 #9 August 29, 2013 *BUMP* Does anyone know of any PRO rating courses now that Jim Wallace has closed up? Any on the east coast? DThe brave may not live forever, but the timid never live at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #10 August 29, 2013 They used to run one at least once a year up at CrossKeys. No idea about any other "formal" courses run by individuals, but there are three different parachute demonstration teams based out of Raeford/Fort Bragg and it would not be hard to get the training you need there. I'd contact Michael Elliot of the All Veterans Parachute Team based at Raeford. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #11 August 29, 2013 We are doing a course in October at Skydive Elsinore, including stadium jump. Rick Grimm ran one down at Oceanside a few months ago, I'd expect he'll be doing one, but these are both westcoast locations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 173 #12 August 30, 2013 I will be hosting another PRO course with Ron Lee of Skydiving Innovations the last part of September at Tsunami Skydivers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #13 August 31, 2013 Deisel*BUMP* Does anyone know of any PRO rating courses now that Jim Wallace has closed up? Any on the east coast? D Why can't you get the needed instruction and requirements form your local S&TA?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deisel 35 #14 September 2, 2013 Now that's some funny shit! My S&TA hasn't done anything but tandems for years now. Hell, he doesn't even own a sport rig anymore! Call me institutionalized from 20 plus years in the Marine Corps, but I just prefer standardized training. Something with a definitive start and end, clear objectives, and set standards to achieve by the end of the training. Professional instruction by people who actually know how to teach. I know it's crazy, but that's just me.The brave may not live forever, but the timid never live at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deisel 35 #15 September 2, 2013 Chuck, The AVPT is on the road more than the GKs at the moment. They're running split ops with two teams in different cities at the moment. But I am looking for someone willing to dedicate a couple of days for some training.The brave may not live forever, but the timid never live at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #16 September 3, 2013 DeiselChuck, The AVPT is on the road more than the GKs at the moment. They're running split ops with two teams in different cities at the moment. But I am looking for someone willing to dedicate a couple of days for some training. Is this Louis Delair? If it is, then why the hell don't you just strap-hang with Windmiller and the boys at GK tryouts (which started today)? I'm sure they would accomodate an active duty USMC Major. Azul sends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisD 0 #17 September 3, 2013 DSE I have a PowerPoint used for the Pro-Rating course, assembled from a couple courses I've taken, advice from Twardo, and my own experiences. I've paid for Pro Rating courses, and people like Bob Edmiston run flag/smoke courses where a lot can be learned. Jim Wallace also has such a paid-for course. Can you post the Power Point? Or make it available somehow? C Thanks And if you ever want to halv your processing / rendering time give me a buzz???But what do I know, "I only have one tandem jump." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #18 September 3, 2013 yeah, it's available when you take the course. The day you can "halve my rendering/processing time" will be the day I quit the industry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deisel 35 #19 September 3, 2013 Yeah Chuck, This is Louis. I'm no longer in NC these days. The powers that be have decided that DC is my new hang out. But of course, Raeford will always be home no matter how far I may roam.The brave may not live forever, but the timid never live at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #20 September 3, 2013 I know where you work now, Louis, but that still doesn't mean you couldn't ask if you could sit in on a couple of days of instruction at tryouts. chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deisel 35 #21 September 3, 2013 Good idea. I'll talk to GW.The brave may not live forever, but the timid never live at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #22 September 4, 2013 Diesel Keith Walters from SOCOM has been running some demo training weekends in Zephyrhills PM me if you want his e-mail address.You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AaronComp 0 #23 December 19, 2013 Contact David at nc pk air park, asa delta pact, its not a pro rating, its a hundred training jumps after the reg, that comes with a hotdog stand killing license. If you ask me your in the wrong place or someone just wasn't watching the gate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #24 December 19, 2013 hmmm..... you sound familiar.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #25 March 20, 2014 What happened to Jim,,why did he close up ? No more jumping ?smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
