WatchYourStep 0 #1 November 13, 2009 Discuss... http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1923808 "You start off your skydiving career with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience up before your bag of luck runs out." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatchYourStep 0 #3 November 13, 2009 A poor example of how an instructor should act... "You start off your skydiving career with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience up before your bag of luck runs out." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dninness 4 #4 November 13, 2009 I thought it was flippin' hilarious. But then, I'm into CollegeHumor.com, and those dudes are always at each other. Ain't no worse than, say, the old "laundry in the main pack tray" routine...... /Gratuitous Fandango ReferenceNIN D-19617, AFF-I '19 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficus 0 #5 November 13, 2009 Of course the dz.com pitchfork squad will want this guy's head, but this was pretty funny. Not as good as their other pranks, but I laughed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #6 November 13, 2009 Quote Ain't no worse than, say, the old "laundry in the main pack tray" routine...... Except the old "laundry in the main pack tray" routine has never actually been used. That was a movie. Yes it was funny and no harm no foul, but I really don't want to spend all next season telling people that I will not do this to their friend. Unless of course they are talking about a lot of money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 122 #7 November 13, 2009 other than all the stuff that could have gone wrong it was funny but not so much for the victim my goal is not to scare my student, hopefully that reduces the risk of them doing something crazy that will hurt meGive one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airathanas 0 #8 November 13, 2009 Isn't there a thread about this already in the Bonfire?http://3ringnecklace.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fencebuster 7 #9 November 13, 2009 Well, I am just a brand new TI, and an AFFI for less than a year, but my opinion is that no instructor should purposefully terrorize a student. You never know, had the guy been provided a professional experience, he might have decided to become a skydiver. I suspect he has no interest in that now. We need to keep in mind, I think, that the skydive is the tandem student's skydive and that the student is not a tool for our own amusement or the amusement of some third party willing to pay to terrorize the student. Our job is to provide a professional, safe, and fun experience for the student. What was done to the student was probably not "unsafe" but I don't believe it was either "professional" or fun for the student. That's my personal opinion but I think the very experienced TIs at my DZ would probably agree.Charlie Gittins, 540-327-2208 AFF-I, Sigma TI, IAD-I MEI, CFI-I, Senior Rigger Former DZO, Blue Ridge Skydiving Adventures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatchYourStep 0 #10 November 13, 2009 See Charlie gets it... Yes Elizabeth there is a topic on this in the Bonfire. Some people don't frequent that forum and I wanted to see the thoughts of a few more instructors. Love Skydive 35, did my TI training down there, great place! "You start off your skydiving career with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience up before your bag of luck runs out." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozzy13 0 #11 November 13, 2009 Quote Well, I am just a brand new TI, and an AFFI for less than a year, but my opinion is that no instructor should purposefully terrorize a student. You never know, had the guy been provided a professional experience, he might have decided to become a skydiver. I suspect he has no interest in that now. We need to keep in mind, I think, that the skydive is the tandem student's skydive and that the student is not a tool for our own amusement or the amusement of some third party willing to pay to terrorize the student. Our job is to provide a professional, safe, and fun experience for the student. What was done to the student was probably not "unsafe" but I don't believe it was either "professional" or fun for the student. That's my personal opinion but I think the very experienced TIs at my DZ would probably agree. LMAO Sorry the whole thing was a prank. Again the WHOLE THING Never give the gates up and always trust your rears! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fencebuster 7 #12 November 13, 2009 A prank where the only one not in on the joke was the student who was terrorized on his first and probably only skydive. Brilliant!Charlie Gittins, 540-327-2208 AFF-I, Sigma TI, IAD-I MEI, CFI-I, Senior Rigger Former DZO, Blue Ridge Skydiving Adventures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 November 14, 2009 This was done specifically for a new(er) form of entertainment on the internet. How is it so different then the different things done involving skydiving for TV and the movies? Its slightly different, but all in all its still skydiving making arrangements for the entertainment industry. Sure tandem jumps are a legitimate form of instruction, no one doubts this. This really isn't any different then MTV doing a TV show with an AFF jump (like they did a few years ago for one of their "reality" shows). It really isn't any different then any of the accommodations for the entertainment industry that skydiving has made over the last 40 years.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TaylorC 0 #14 November 14, 2009 wow some of you guys take things to seriously when it comes to this kind of shit... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #15 November 14, 2009 Quote Isn't there a thread about this already in the Bonfire? I hadn't noticed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #16 November 14, 2009 Quote Well, I am just a brand new TI, and an AFFI for less than a year, but my opinion is that no instructor should purposefully terrorize a student. You never know, had the guy been provided a professional experience, he might have decided to become a skydiver. I suspect he has no interest in that now. We need to keep in mind, I think, that the skydive is the tandem student's skydive and that the student is not a tool for our own amusement or the amusement of some third party willing to pay to terrorize the student. Our job is to provide a professional, safe, and fun experience for the student. What was done to the student was probably not "unsafe" but I don't believe it was either "professional" or fun for the student. That's my personal opinion but I think the very experienced TIs at my DZ would probably agree. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #17 November 14, 2009 Quotethe student is not a tool for our own amusement or the amusement of some third party willing to pay to terrorize the student. Unless it's for the right price, of course! Look dude, you gotta quit being so 1996 man, it's a new century bro, thaaaangs is diff these daze you dig. Hell a lot of dz's been paying a third party to terrorize the students, these guys are making all the bread doing it in house and having a good time too.. Hey man 2009 already it's all about the cash flow "show me the money" bitch!you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markovwgti 0 #18 November 15, 2009 You guys gotta calm down, he was cool with it after he landed, the whole crew jumped and if i remember correctly streeter wanted to jump again after! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #19 November 15, 2009 Quote he was cool with it after he landed, And if he'd freaked, and started grabbing handles, or maybe grabbed the TI's hands and toggles in a death grip at 50 feet? D'oh!! Never thought of that, did we? No problem; as long as it's funny, that makes it ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markovwgti 0 #20 November 15, 2009 QuoteQuote he was cool with it after he landed, And if he'd freaked, and started grabbing handles, or maybe grabbed the TI's hands and toggles in a death grip at 50 feet? D'oh!! Never thought of that, did we? No problem; as long as it's funny, that makes it ok. At 50 feet he already knew about the joke...hell at 1k feet he knew about it...you could see that sign from 2k Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #21 November 15, 2009 You're either missing the point or evading it: a professional skydiving instructor does not participate in the terrorizing of a first-jump student, especially while the jump is in progress. Nitpicking over this detail or that does not change that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairymango 0 #22 November 15, 2009 hail fun nazi fuhrer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #23 November 15, 2009 Papers, please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kimemerson 7 #24 November 16, 2009 Quote hail fun nazi fuhrer Please allow the Nazis to own their reputation and stop diluting what they did by spreading their name around to others. The Nazis of WW II Germany were THE Nazis and no one else deserves to be lumped in with them. It's fucking disgusting! No one else should ever be called one. Unless they were. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #25 November 16, 2009 Quote Quote hail fun nazi fuhrer Please allow the Nazis to own their reputation and stop diluting what they did by spreading their name around to others. The Nazis of WW II Germany were THE Nazis and no one else deserves to be lumped in with them. It's fucking disgusting! No one else should ever be called one. Unless they were. Who are you? The historical reference Nazi? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites