herminiocordido 0 #1 March 19, 2009 i am not a tandem skydiver, but i am a professional tandem paraglider pilot. I know that you have to trust your equipment and all that, but if i open my canopy and it is perfectly flying and i have a locked toggle, i am pretty sure i wouldn"t cut away. i prefer to even cut the brake, and land on rear risers. i know you have little time to resolve before you are out of height to cut away, but i will definitely fight a little. I think we as tandem paragliders are more used to have small canopy mishaps (little branches on take off, colapses that get cravated and such) and the reserve (round) landings are not that fun, so i keep emergency procedures for bad emergencies. Nice Video and for sure a super experience for the passenger... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverton2 0 #2 March 19, 2009 Quotei am not a tandem skydiver, but i am a professional tandem paraglider pilot. I know that you have to trust your equipment and all that, but if i open my canopy and it is perfectly flying and i have a locked toggle, i am pretty sure i wouldn"t cut away. i prefer to even cut the brake, and land on rear risers. i know you have little time to resolve before you are out of height to cut away, but i will definitely fight a little. I think we as tandem paragliders are more used to have small canopy mishaps (little branches on take off, colapses that get cravated and such) and the reserve (round) landings are not that fun, so i keep emergency procedures for bad emergencies. Nice Video and for sure a super experience for the passenger... You are clearly not a TM!!! I can assure you that you can not steer and land a skydiving-tandemcanopy using the rearrisers only. You (or at least the passenger) will end in hospital!! When I try to pull a rearriser, I go up, the riser does not go down (Yes I'm a TM)Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
herminiocordido 0 #3 March 19, 2009 Yeah, i have never flown in a tandem canopy (skydiving) but it make sense because of the 2 risers instead of 4 riser layout on the paragliders... so if you have a broken brake you cut away aswell? is that the normal (by the book) procedure? Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
efs4ever 3 #4 March 19, 2009 QuoteYeah, i have never flown in a tandem canopy (skydiving) but it make sense because of the 2 risers instead of 4 riser layout on the paragliders... so if you have a broken brake you cut away aswell? is that the normal (by the book) procedure? Cheers Absolutely. You can't land a tandem safely with no ability to flare it at the bottom.Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficus 0 #5 March 19, 2009 Quote You are clearly not a TM!!! I can assure you that you can not steer and land a skydiving-tandemcanopy using the rearrisers only. You (or at least the passenger) will end in hospital!! When I try to pull a rearriser, I go up, the riser does not go down (Yes I'm a TM) I have watched a tandem instructor land on rear risers before (with a locked-up toggle). It was an uneventful landing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #6 March 19, 2009 Quote I have watched a tandem instructor land on rear risers before (with a locked-up toggle). It was an uneventful landing. Was that TI a particularly strong guy? (Just curious.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,379 #7 March 20, 2009 >When I try to pull a rearriser, I go up, the riser does not go down I doubt that. No one riser of your canopy carries more load than your weight. (Although I agree they are EXTREMELY hard to pull/flare with.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficus 0 #8 March 20, 2009 QuoteQuote I have watched a tandem instructor land on rear risers before (with a locked-up toggle). It was an uneventful landing. Was that TI a particularly strong guy? (Just curious.) I wouldn't say so. Not weak, but not a bodybuilder or anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VerticalRush 0 #9 March 20, 2009 If you go up you are lifting +/- double your own weight. However, I could not imagine flaring a tandem on risers with much success. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimonBones 1 #10 March 20, 2009 QuoteYeah, i have never flown in a tandem canopy (skydiving) but it make sense because of the 2 risers instead of 4 riser layout on the paragliders... so if you have a broken brake you cut away aswell? is that the normal (by the book) procedure? Cheers I landed one once with a toggle and rear riser due to a stuck toggle. It all depends on the specific type of tandem canopy. There are some I can flare with rear risers, others I'd chop no question about it. But simply resorting to PLFing or something would be unacceptable on a tandem.108 way head down world record!!! http://www.simonbones.com Hit me up on Facebook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #11 March 20, 2009 Let's keep this thread going. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3516297;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
