RossDagley 0 #1 June 9, 2008 Looking at the 2008 IRM, it lists the following as requirements for a USPA AFFI rating. ***a. reached the age of 18 years b. holds or has held any USPA instructional rating c. earned a USPA C license or the FAI equivalent d. logged six hours of freefall time e. completed the USPA AFF Instructor Proficiency Card (applicable portions) f. successfully proven ability by successfully completing the written and practical AFF evaluation process with a USPA AFF Instructor Rating Course Director/*** Am I reading that correctly that there is no minimum jump number requirement? I have it in the back of my mind that it was 500 jumps AND 6 hours freefall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #2 June 9, 2008 You are reading right, no jump requirement (tandem requires 500 jumps and 3 years in the sport, that's probalby what you're thinking of) Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RossDagley 0 #3 June 9, 2008 Ah righty - thanks Under BPA rules here in the UK, a BPA AFFI must have a minimum of 1000 jumps. Edit to add: The reason I asked was because on going back through my logbook, I see I passed 6 hours freefall at 380 jumps... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #4 June 9, 2008 Nope he has it right, it was 500 jumps and 6 hrs FF time to attend the course not so long ago, so USPA had 1. a typo or 2. they have lowered the standards to this point.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #5 June 9, 2008 QuoteYou are reading right, no jump requirement (tandem requires 500 jumps and 3 years in the sport, that's probalby what you're thinking of) You have to have 200 jumps to get your C license. So there is one. If you do all jumps from 13,500, that is about 360 or so to get 6 hours of free fall so there is a second.Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustChuteMeNow 0 #6 June 9, 2008 Quote If you do all jumps from 13,500, that is about 360 or so to get 6 hours of free fall so there is a second. Of course for wingsuit flyers the new 6 hour AFF qualification standard can be accomplished very fast. Think of how stupid the average person is and realize that statistically half of them are stupider than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #7 June 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteYou are reading right, no jump requirement (tandem requires 500 jumps and 3 years in the sport, that's probalby what you're thinking of) You have to have 200 jumps to get your C license. So there is one. If you do all jumps from 13,500, that is about 360 or so to get 6 hours of free fall so there is a second. That's kinda stretching it a little. The requirements are C license and 6 hours, not specifically 200 jumps or 360 jumps or whatever. If all you do is CRW, it'll take forever to get 6 hours, if all you do is wingsuit, it could be quicker. Strato, I don't know when you checked the requirements, but at least last year when I took the course, there was no specific jump requirement, just the other things (time, license, prereq. card filled out) Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmurrell 0 #8 June 10, 2008 QuoteOf course for wingsuit flyers the new 6 hour AFF qualification standard can be accomplished very fast. Yeah, wingsuit people get hours quickly (I've got 5 1/2 hours already and 250 jumps), but know I don't have the belly skills to get an AFFI, or even show up to the course.... 30 more minutes won't help either.This isn't flying, its falling with style. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #9 June 10, 2008 Quoteb. holds or has held any USPA instructional rating Does this mean a coach rating, or do you have to be S/L or IAD before AFFI? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #10 June 10, 2008 Quote Yeah, wingsuit people get hours quickly (I've got 5 1/2 hours already and 250 jumps), but know I don't have the belly skills to get an AFFI, or even show up to the course.... 30 more minutes won't help either. I say go for it.....you never know these days. I've even seen some AFF I's that cant fly a wingsuit, let alone stay with a student. www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RossDagley 0 #11 June 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteb. holds or has held any USPA instructional rating Does this mean a coach rating, or do you have to be S/L or IAD before AFFI? The coach rating is sufficient Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #12 June 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteb. holds or has held any USPA instructional rating Does this mean a coach rating, or do you have to be S/L or IAD before AFFI? "instructional rating" includes coaches. If it said "Instructor rating", that would imply a prerequisite of a S/L, IAD, or Tandem I rating. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #13 June 10, 2008 How about "nylon compression engineer" instructor? Does teaching to pack count?So . . . do you have to be a coach prior to getting a S/L or IAD rating, or tandem rating? Is the BIC still being used as a starting point? Am I a total dinosaur who hasn't been paying attention?I'm glad I got all my ratings a long time ago. Too many hoops to jump through now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timuuu 0 #14 June 10, 2008 Packer doesn't quite count. BIC went out sometime in the early 2000's. Yes on coach before any other instructional ratings. As to the 360ish jump "minimum", you still have to pass the course director's eval jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #15 June 10, 2008 Quote How about "nylon compression engineer" instructor? Does teaching to pack count?So . . . do you have to be a coach prior to getting a S/L or IAD rating, or tandem rating? Is the BIC still being used as a starting point? Am I a total dinosaur who hasn't been paying attention?I'm glad I got all my ratings a long time ago. Too many hoops to jump through now. Yeah, the coach course is most like the BIC, with a little bit of JM thrown in, and you have to pass it before you can get an I rating. For a little while there was an AIC that you could take to become a CD, but now rumors are that they're going to switch to an IECC of sorts. Does that clear things up? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites