lowpullin1 0 #1 July 12, 2007 Well it took just over 200 tandems but i got my first malfunction and i can honestly say i am glad it over, got tired of waiting on it . if you interested it was a blownout center cell and tension knots, not sure which one caused the other but it was a wild ride we were spinning on our backs when i chopped it. Had a reserve by about 3800 ft. Reserve landing was good, no injuries. "It's hard to fly with the eagles when you are surrounded by turkeys." My Website Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #2 July 12, 2007 what gear was that on ? Can you attribute the blown cell and the knots to a particular phase ? Packing ? Old gear ? De-trimmed canopy ? Other ? We had a BT80 blow the 3 left cells on opening a couple of weeks ago. Canopy had only around 300 jumps. The reserve landed better than the main scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jheadley 0 #3 July 12, 2007 Did you have an RSL? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowpullin1 0 #4 July 12, 2007 It was a vector rig and it did have a RSL, i do not jump a RSL on my personal rig but i think they are a really good idea for tandems. the main was a PD 425 the canopy had alot of jumps on it so my guess in wear caused the center cell to blow out and that cause the tension knots. "It's hard to fly with the eagles when you are surrounded by turkeys." My Website Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moto89 0 #5 July 13, 2007 What was your passengers reaction. Did they even know what had happened really?Less talking, more flying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyer84 0 #6 November 23, 2007 Iv'e had two on a EZ384 using a Vector. It was the same EZ that was cutaway 3 times before my 2 because of line over/tension knots. Im thinking its the 6 groumet slider.~FREEFLYER84~ MUFF#3784 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #7 November 23, 2007 QuoteIv'e had two on a EZ384 using a Vector. It was the same EZ that was cutaway 3 times before my 2 because of line over/tension knots. Im thinking its the 6 groumet slider. I'm thinking it's the packing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyer84 0 #8 November 30, 2007 its been 4 different packers. Ive jumped plenty of other 384's that havent done anything like this one has.....I think its just one of those funky ones~FREEFLYER84~ MUFF#3784 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdD 1 #9 December 2, 2007 I had my 1st too a few weeks ago. Chopped 4 line twists I couldn't clear on a icarus main. It was a skyhook so the ride was over fast. Damn that thing is sweet!!Life is ez On the dz Every jumper's dream 3 rigs and an airstream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #10 December 2, 2007 Tension knots might be caused by fuzzy, worn-out suspension lines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shortyj 0 #11 January 3, 2008 yes,what did the student think?Playtime is essential. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwmontreal 0 #12 January 15, 2008 Congratulations! We share the same season for our first T-mal! Mine was mostly likely due to packing error. It was like a slider down base opening. Although the jokers still say it was my body position!! Center cell top skin was blown out and two others ripped....and toss in a few broken linesLuckily for me we were both ok, and the canopy was flying in a gentle turn, so I had a few seconds to talk to my student and give him a heads up. Jump had video and the opening sequence took about 3 or 4 frames (from coming out of the d-bag to fully open) My biggest surprise was that the 425 reserve only had one set of steering toggles ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------JUMP SAFE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liemberg 0 #13 January 15, 2008 Quote My biggest surprise was that the 425 reserve only had one set of steering toggles The manufacturers think you need the physical exercise every now and then... "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwmontreal 0 #14 January 16, 2008 OMG!!! 225lbs on the front and my arms were aching when I needed to flare.............amen for adrenalin!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------JUMP SAFE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psychoswooper 2 #15 January 19, 2008 QuoteIv'e had two on a EZ384 using a Vector. It was the same EZ that was cutaway 3 times before my 2 because of line over/tension knots. Im thinking its the 6 groumet slider. Now I ain't saying that 6 grommet sliders cause tension knots, but I will say that after an incredible rash of line-overs on EZ-384s with 6 grommet sliders, when previously we had zero line overs with 4 grommet sliders,(same packers) it was reported to me by several DZs who experienced the same problem that as soon as they replaced their 6 grommet sliders, the problem disappeared. All of our 6 grommet sliders were replaced by PD at no cost & we have had only a single line-over incident since. (over 2000 jumps) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Para5-0 0 #16 January 19, 2008 You have got to try the icarus 330. Like flying your own rig no toggle preasure at all. Makes long days easy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #17 January 19, 2008 Or even better try the HOP 330. Like flying a big Stiletto, but opens like a dream.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisjudice 0 #18 January 19, 2008 Just hit tandem # 2500 the other day and I'm still waiting for my first cutaway! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Para5-0 0 #19 January 20, 2008 knock, knock, knock.. Watch out what you wish for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisjudice 0 #20 January 20, 2008 I'm not wishing for it to happen.. Just noting that It's taking it's time coming! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveoc 0 #21 January 22, 2008 330 sq ft icarus. Do you guys ever worry about the velocity of a spin under the 330 with no brake setting? Ive been under the PD 340 that wound up real fast with brakes set. I love the idea of lighter pressure and all but when does it become a point of diminishing returns or specically a safety factor when loaded and spinning. Anyone been there? Also, would you put a novice TM under a 330? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #22 January 22, 2008 In 3000+ tandems, I;ve never been under anything I'd call a spinning malfunction.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #23 January 22, 2008 I've been there with a 360 (365?) Icaurus. Heavy wing load and a tension knot spin. It made a "spinetto" spin from my stiletto look tame in comparison. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saly 0 #24 January 22, 2008 Wo be careful, I said recently I had gone 2680 jumps since my last chop and had two in a row shortly there after --------------------------------------------- If you don't have wings you will never fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #25 January 29, 2008 Quote330 sq ft icarus. Do you guys ever worry about the velocity of a spin under the 330 with no brake setting? Ive been under the PD 340 that wound up real fast with brakes set. Anyone been there? Also, would you put a novice TM under a 330? Between Mark and I over 3000 tandems under Icarus 330s and 365s, zero tension knot mals, zero spinning mals, and 1 line over. We did our tandem I training on an Icarus 330, and started with one rig and a 330 in it. Second rig had a 365 which is a better chaise for all around in my opinion. I don't see a problem with a novice TM being under a 330, just don't load it up much over 400 lbs. MartinExperience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
