steveorino 7 #26 November 16, 2006 Quotewe did do exits from the strut but with everyone having otters that is not that big a deal anymore Everyone has otters? Dang! Somebody better tell Lloyd, because it is missing at Skydive Airtight. So Tandem Progression would not be good at Cessna DZs? steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #27 November 17, 2006 what does the exit have to do with progression ? exit anyway it is safe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #28 November 17, 2006 Well, in a cessna 182, you "typically" dive the exit on a tandem. In AFF, diving exits are "typically" taught AFTER poised exits, that is all. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #29 November 17, 2006 a minor adjustment that is definatly worth the extra hands on training the student will get under canopy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #30 November 17, 2006 QuoteIt's not a good I dea to just throw a student out of the airplane by themselves after just a few tandems. The Airforce Academy used to just throw them out solo on the first jump. It worked well and they have a pretty good safety record. I don't recall if they do that anymore, but I'll ask next week."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #31 November 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteIt's not a good I dea to just throw a student out of the airplane by themselves after just a few tandems. The Airforce Academy used to just throw them out solo on the first jump. It worked well and they have a pretty good safety record. I don't recall if they do that anymore, but I'll ask next week. Last I heard, they were still doing this. The way I heard it, they have a higher than normal number of AAD fires, but an otherwise good safety record (injury/fatality wise). Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #32 November 17, 2006 QuoteLast I heard, they were still doing this. The way I heard it, they have a higher than normal number of AAD fires, but an otherwise good safety record (injury/fatality wise). If I remember, they have AOD's on the main and AAD's on the reserve."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #33 November 18, 2006 Quote If I remember, they have AOD's on the main and AAD's on the reserve. Off-topic side-note: I thought AADs were the same thing as AODs, but that the word "activation" replaced the word "opening" because of liability concerns (manufacturers didn't want to imply the device would "open" the parachute). Your distinction above suggests there's a difference between the two and I'm curious what it is...puller versus cutter? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #34 November 18, 2006 QuoteOff-topic side-note: I thought AADs were the same thing as AODs, but that the word "activation" replaced the word "opening" Same thing. QuoteYour distinction above suggests there's a difference between the two and I'm curious what it is...puller versus cutter? Same thing, just different name. I seem to remember an AAD on the Main is called an AOD. It might be because it is spring loaded, the user can reset it, due to it being on the main, or I could just be wrong. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
