barroch 0 #1 March 16, 2005 Hello, I was just wondering guys, what is the minimum requirement to start training as a tandem master? Thing is I just travelled round Australia and I am looking to get permanent residancy and the Tandem market is huge over there. There is nothing I would like more than jumping out with Swedish chicks strapped to me for a living! My plan is to work up to Tandem Master status in the UK and move over to Oz. I know it is a long way off but I'm the type of person that needs a plan in life and a target to aim for and if I know what I hav to do it will not seem as so much of a mamoth task! I would appreciate any ideas, suggestions and information! Hope everyone is ok and blue skies to everyone! Bazza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egons 0 #2 March 16, 2005 Australia have their own set of guide lines for tandem certification. Should you wish to get a RWS rating this will be the minimum that the Tandem I/E will require from you. Keep in mind that Australia might have higher requirements. Before beginning this program, an applicant for Tandem Instructor Training must: 1. Currently possess, or at one time been issued, a USPA Static Line Instructor rating, AFF Jumpmaster or Instructor rating, or a USPA IAD Instructor rating or foreign equivalent. Those candidates with a Static Line or IAD Jumpmaster rating must also attend a USPA BIC/Coach before attending a tandem certification course. 2. Have logged at least 500 ram-air jumps and 3 years experience in sport parachuting. 3. Hold a current FAA Class 1, 2, or 3 Medical Certificate or foreign equivalent. 4. Hold a current USPA D license (expert) or foreign equivalent. 5. Be at least 18 years of age. Hope this helps. The requirment most tend to forget is the 3 years in the sport! Cheers Egon "Start doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you're doing the impossible!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #3 March 17, 2005 There is nothing I would like more than jumping out with Swedish chicks strapped to me for a living! *** Uh huh........ for each of them, you get ten sweaty guys.... RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TALONSKY 0 #4 March 17, 2005 Quote Uh huh........ for each of them, you get ten sweaty guys.... Roy Or 230 plus pound women. There is nothing like hooking up to someone who has the harness near maxed out on all adjustments to make you never want to eat again or just plan go get sick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barroch 0 #5 March 17, 2005 Cheers for that dude! Spoze I better get jumping!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 March 17, 2005 QuoteOr 230 plus pound women. There is nothing like hooking up to someone who has the harness near maxed out on all adjustments to make you never want to eat again or just plan go get sick. I call those chicks "flow-ers." Since every time you adjust the harness, they seem to flow around the straps...and make you shudder.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #7 March 17, 2005 Dave, there is absoutely NO NEED for the mental image you just created. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #8 March 17, 2005 QuoteSpoze I better get jumping!! You better had! According to Section 4 (Instructors) Para 5 (Tandem Instructor) Sub-Para 5.1 (Requirements) of the BPA Operations Manual Quote5.1.2. A minimum of 800 descents and 8 hours of free fall time. Good luck!Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LukeOliver 0 #9 March 17, 2005 Quote Australia have their own set of guide lines for tandem certification. Broadly: "E" License (500 jump minimum) Private Pilot's medical Instructor Rating Then: Written examinations Practical examinations Grilling from a panel of instructors Ten structured tandem jumps under VERY close supervision It's not an easy road. But you get customers who do make it all very worthwhile. L. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martin-o 0 #10 March 18, 2005 QuoteHello, There is nothing I would like more than jumping out with Swedish chicks strapped to me for a living! Bazza Well... I'm a Tandemmaster in Sweden and I must say that I belive there is more of them here than in Austrailia ;). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liemberg 0 #11 March 18, 2005 QuoteThere is nothing I would like more than jumping out with Swedish chicks strapped to me for a living! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uh huh........ for each of them, you get ten sweaty guys.... Let the kid have his dreams for god's sake! I have a vision of myself in the moderate climate of New Zealand, jumping out of a nice PAC750XL with small japanese female tourists strapped to me, each of them graciously bowing after the jump, charmingly gigling and giving me a huge fee! Also there will be a paying trainee (barroch?) that listens eagerly to all my wise words in the evening at the bar while during daytime packing my tandemrig again and again and again... I'm sure some of the readers here can give me a reality check.... don't bother! "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martin-o 0 #12 March 18, 2005 Quote, jumping out of a nice PAC750XL This just keeps geting better and better. Not only do I do Tandems in Sweden, my club just got its new pac750xl delivered a week ago. Going by the standards of you guys I must be the luckiest man alive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #13 March 18, 2005 QuoteQuote, jumping out of a nice PAC750XL This just keeps geting better and better. Not only do I do Tandems in Sweden, my club just got its new pac750xl delivered a week ago. Going by the standards of you guys I must be the luckiest man alive Keep us posted on your thoughts after you have done tandems out of the PAC? Unless your a midget, the door is way too short to enjoy getting out of. Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martin-o 0 #14 March 18, 2005 Quote Keep us posted on your thoughts after you have done tandems out of the PAC? Unless your a midget, the door is way too short to enjoy getting out of. Ed I havent jumped the plane yet but I've tried the door on the ground and It's not the tallest one I've seen but I wouldn't think it's a problem... and since I only jump with small swedish chicks it will be fine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kissrg 0 #15 March 18, 2005 Quote Keep us posted on your thoughts after you have done tandems out of the PAC? Unless your a midget, the door is way too short to enjoy getting out of. It seems to me getting out not so difficult for bigger ones Robert Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #16 March 18, 2005 QuoteIt seems to me getting out not so difficult for bigger ones Unless you were seated in that postion from take off, IMO you can't tell anyone that has done tandems out of an Otter, Sky Van, Casa, or King Air, that the PAC a plane that is easier on the body for a TI to get of. But that just my opinion, give me a taller door anyday. Keepin' it safe! Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liemberg 0 #17 March 18, 2005 Quotegive me a taller door anyday. Ah, but imagine getting that passenger in the picture out of our trusted C 182..., then with the PAC 750 even in Sweden you've arived in tandemmasters heaven. Doable in C 182? Yes, I guess... (if not done 'worse' ones myself, done 'just as bad' from C 182... you almost forget what a joy it is to make another skydive... granted, walking out of a tailgate is always more comfortable...) But my dream was more with small and gigling asian females sitting on my lap, wearing the jogging shoes of my 10 year old kid since they all arrived on the DZ at high heels... Could one 'duckwalk' in a PAC750 ? Good exercise! "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #18 March 18, 2005 Quote Ah, but imagine getting that passenger in the picture out of our trusted C 182..., Quote A guy 6'5" 278lbs was the biggest I have ever taken out of a trusty C182. Our fall rate was 116mph believe it or not. Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tandemphil 0 #19 March 18, 2005 We call those women "two fisters" because you can fit two fists between thier shoulders and the harness after the chute opens. to do is to be to be is to do do be do be do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deuce 1 #20 March 18, 2005 Nah, I disagree. In the 182 (I've done tandems out of Davis's/Skydance's) you ride up with the door closed and the passenger secured against the firewall, and at altitude you turn them around and then hook up, open the door and depart. Easy and fun. Problem with the PAC is you're up against the firewall facing aft and have to be secured to the student when the upjumpers prepare to depart. That means lots of scootching over that spar toward that amazing Willie Wonka Room-like tail which just keeps getting smaller as you get closer to the door. If you have a PAC, it's something you could easily adjust to. But for those of us experienced with the other popular planes, it's a harder exit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot1 0 #21 March 18, 2005 QuoteWillie Wonka Room-like tail which just keeps getting smaller as you get closer to the door. It sucks for getting out of in a wingsuit also. Keepin' it safe! Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #22 March 19, 2005 Quote We call those women "two fisters" because you can fit two fists between thier shoulders and the harness after the chute opens Bwahahahaha! Man, I know what you're talking about, that's funny! As for big guys in a 182...I took my cousin on a tandem about a year ago who is just under 6'8" out of our trusty 182. Honestly, it wasn't a big deal, not very hard. I haven't taken any nearly 300lbs people on a tandem since I'm a "big 'ol boy" myself and the gear isn't rated that high. We now have a grand caravan with stradle benches so it doesn't really matter anymore. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #23 March 21, 2005 QuoteI call those chicks "flow-ers." Since every time you adjust the harness, they seem to flow around the straps...and make you shudder. After opening you lean forward, look waaay down inside the harness by your kneecaps, and say "So, did ya have a good time?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ernokaikkonen 0 #24 March 24, 2005 QuoteAfter opening you lean forward, look waaay down inside the harness by your kneecaps, and say "So, did ya have a good time?" And then wonder "How the hell am I going to adjust the harness so her bum doesn't hit the ground before my feet?" Ugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 558 #25 March 25, 2005 Problem with the PAC is you're up against the firewall facing aft and have to be secured to the student when the up jumpers prepare to depart. That means lots of scootching over that spar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that PAC 750s came stock with straddle (bobsled) style benches. Straddle benches have been used in jump planes for more than a decade now, ergo there is no excuse for groveling about on the floor. If your DZO is too busy, make your own straddle benches out of styrofoam, wrapped in vinyl. At a bare minimum, ask your DZO to install a bench level with the spar in the front part of the cabin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
tandemphil 0 #19 March 18, 2005 We call those women "two fisters" because you can fit two fists between thier shoulders and the harness after the chute opens. to do is to be to be is to do do be do be do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #20 March 18, 2005 Nah, I disagree. In the 182 (I've done tandems out of Davis's/Skydance's) you ride up with the door closed and the passenger secured against the firewall, and at altitude you turn them around and then hook up, open the door and depart. Easy and fun. Problem with the PAC is you're up against the firewall facing aft and have to be secured to the student when the upjumpers prepare to depart. That means lots of scootching over that spar toward that amazing Willie Wonka Room-like tail which just keeps getting smaller as you get closer to the door. If you have a PAC, it's something you could easily adjust to. But for those of us experienced with the other popular planes, it's a harder exit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #21 March 18, 2005 QuoteWillie Wonka Room-like tail which just keeps getting smaller as you get closer to the door. It sucks for getting out of in a wingsuit also. Keepin' it safe! Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #22 March 19, 2005 Quote We call those women "two fisters" because you can fit two fists between thier shoulders and the harness after the chute opens Bwahahahaha! Man, I know what you're talking about, that's funny! As for big guys in a 182...I took my cousin on a tandem about a year ago who is just under 6'8" out of our trusty 182. Honestly, it wasn't a big deal, not very hard. I haven't taken any nearly 300lbs people on a tandem since I'm a "big 'ol boy" myself and the gear isn't rated that high. We now have a grand caravan with stradle benches so it doesn't really matter anymore. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #23 March 21, 2005 QuoteI call those chicks "flow-ers." Since every time you adjust the harness, they seem to flow around the straps...and make you shudder. After opening you lean forward, look waaay down inside the harness by your kneecaps, and say "So, did ya have a good time?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #24 March 24, 2005 QuoteAfter opening you lean forward, look waaay down inside the harness by your kneecaps, and say "So, did ya have a good time?" And then wonder "How the hell am I going to adjust the harness so her bum doesn't hit the ground before my feet?" Ugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #25 March 25, 2005 Problem with the PAC is you're up against the firewall facing aft and have to be secured to the student when the up jumpers prepare to depart. That means lots of scootching over that spar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that PAC 750s came stock with straddle (bobsled) style benches. Straddle benches have been used in jump planes for more than a decade now, ergo there is no excuse for groveling about on the floor. If your DZO is too busy, make your own straddle benches out of styrofoam, wrapped in vinyl. At a bare minimum, ask your DZO to install a bench level with the spar in the front part of the cabin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
