ZigZagMarquis 8 #1 March 5, 2011 This aircraft (see photos) has been sitting a Cal City for sometime now. I can't figure out what kind of Lockheed it is... walked around it a couple of times and cannot find a data plate. Yes, smart-asses, I know its prop-less... Anyway, figured Howard will know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lucky508 0 #2 March 5, 2011 I don’t know either but it’s Beautiful! I love polished aluminum. I just don’t like the polishing part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #3 March 5, 2011 Quote This aircraft (see photos) has been sitting a Cal City for sometime now. I can't figure out what kind of Lockheed it is... walked around it a couple of times and cannot find a data plate. Yes, smart-asses, I know its prop-less... Anyway, figured Howard will know. Looks like a LodeStall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites oldwomanc6 38 #4 March 5, 2011 Looks a little preggers/guppy-like to be a run of the mill Lodestall. Cyclos are our friends. lisalisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites howardwhite 2 #5 March 5, 2011 I think it's an L10A. Z-Hills had one for a while. Lemme look in pic archives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Model_10_Electra HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dks13827 2 #6 March 5, 2011 Electra............... looks much like Amelia's plane, does it not ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #7 March 5, 2011 QuoteI think it's an L10A. Z-Hills had one for a while. Lemme look in pic archives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Model_10_Electra HW Check the windscreen one large one small... not one large and 2 small in the Model 10 The preggers look though.... as was noted.. is not something a 10 or 12 have. The are far more sleek. http://www.flytoanothertime.com/lockheed/lockheedindex.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lodestar 0 #8 March 5, 2011 I was going to say that one was an Electra, but the one we had at the Hills was a "lodestar I believe. At least that's what we called it. I remember seeing that on the data panel but it's been so long I couldn't be positive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Lodestar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #9 March 5, 2011 QuoteI was going to say that one was an Electra, but the one we had at the Hills was a "lodestar I believe. At least that's what we called it. I remember seeing that on the data panel but it's been so long I couldn't be positive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Lodestar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveJack 0 #10 March 5, 2011 It's a Lodestar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #11 March 5, 2011 Ventura B-34 Lexington / B-37 PV Ventura / Harpoon AKA Lodestar better known in skydiving as a lodestall http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Venturayou can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 20 #12 March 5, 2011 Quote This aircraft (see photos) has been sitting a Cal City for sometime now. I can't figure out what kind of Lockheed it is... walked around it a couple of times and cannot find a data plate. Yes, smart-asses, I know its prop-less... Anyway, figured Howard will know. Lodestar. The prettiest mod was the Learstar, smoothed out everything. Cleaned up the nacelles and even got rid of the draggy Fowler flap bumps. Check out Mike Zoeller's website. Look at the bottom and click away. He documents every Lodestar mod ever made. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/m.zoeller/ I have some right seat time in a stock Lodestar, a Learstar MK1 and a Howard 250 Tri Gear Lodestar. The tail draggers are a real handful in a gusty crosswind. I let the guy to the left of me do the frantic rudder and yoke dance. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lekstrom10k 0 #13 March 5, 2011 Without side or rear shots its hard to say. By the looks of the belly so low I would go Lode star for sure . A 10-E and 12 had straight bellys. From the side 10-e had 5 windows while the 12 had only 3 ." Amelia" the recent movie swapped them around as there werent enough flying ones available. I was part owner of the one that burned up in Yankee Air Force Museum in Ypsalanti Michigan. Steve Fellows was the first owner after buying it from his Aero- mechanic school. I have jumped all three mentioned plus the Connie from WFFC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZigZagMarquis 8 #14 March 5, 2011 One more pic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites poppenhager 1 #15 March 5, 2011 L18 Loadstar w/wright 1820 1200hp engines(early models) had 1000hp.POPQuote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Beerlight 0 #16 March 5, 2011 Howard Super Ventura http://www.airliners.net/photo/Howard-Super-Ventura/0593127/L/&sid=2d5bf36501e002d28cb66afefba706e1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lodestar 0 #17 March 5, 2011 What, no Turbo conversions.....with JATO assist... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jonstark 8 #18 March 5, 2011 Go to the front of the engines find the data plates. We need to know the make and model of the engines to tell whether it is a conversion. The Lockheed Lodestar was the top of the corporate aviation flightline pecking order until the turbines came out. In 1957 the Grumman Gulfstream, later known as the GI (G-one), took the place of this a/c. Turbines had become more reliable and were more quiet. The Lodestar remained a desirable stallion for years to come especially with the border running drug trade. jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lekstrom10k 0 #19 March 5, 2011 Paul I also jumped Sweets lodestar early 70's at your place. You had a meet going on for accuracy. We jumped the C-170's with the beer bouys for the pilots.Dave Sauve was there too . I talkto him still if you want his number I have it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rapter 0 #20 March 5, 2011 Van said it was some kind of de Havilland aircraft, but haven't found out what one. Only the good die young, so I have found immortality, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZigZagMarquis 8 #21 March 6, 2011 QuoteVan said it was some kind of de Havilland aircraft, but haven't found out what one. I think you're thinking of the other aircraft, Cary. The one north of what is apparently a Loadstar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #22 March 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteVan said it was some kind of de Havilland aircraft, but haven't found out what one. I think you're thinking of the other aircraft, Cary. The one north of what is apparently a Loadstar. There is one at Eloy as well.. http://wikimapia.org/#lat=32.8042207&lon=-111.5866032&z=19&l=0&m=b Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 135 #23 March 6, 2011 me thinks it's either an An-2 or a Lockheed Model 14 Super Electrascissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lekstrom10k 0 #24 March 6, 2011 The AN-2 was the Russian Bi-Plane with the 1000 horse power Radial engine At the time it was the most widely produced airplane in the world , built in 8 countries even above C-172. Its definitely a Lodestar . The only one of that era I didnt jump was the Hudson. They were used as Light Bombers and trainers for the big boys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #25 March 7, 2011 Yep and you can have for a low price too, make a bunch of money on the boogies hauling skydivers......LOL http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1943-Lockheed-Lodestar-Aircraft-/290542256545?pt=Motors_Aircraft&hash=item43a5ab01a1you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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lucky508 0 #2 March 5, 2011 I don’t know either but it’s Beautiful! I love polished aluminum. I just don’t like the polishing part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #3 March 5, 2011 Quote This aircraft (see photos) has been sitting a Cal City for sometime now. I can't figure out what kind of Lockheed it is... walked around it a couple of times and cannot find a data plate. Yes, smart-asses, I know its prop-less... Anyway, figured Howard will know. Looks like a LodeStall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 38 #4 March 5, 2011 Looks a little preggers/guppy-like to be a run of the mill Lodestall. Cyclos are our friends. lisalisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 2 #5 March 5, 2011 I think it's an L10A. Z-Hills had one for a while. Lemme look in pic archives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Model_10_Electra HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 2 #6 March 5, 2011 Electra............... looks much like Amelia's plane, does it not ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #7 March 5, 2011 QuoteI think it's an L10A. Z-Hills had one for a while. Lemme look in pic archives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Model_10_Electra HW Check the windscreen one large one small... not one large and 2 small in the Model 10 The preggers look though.... as was noted.. is not something a 10 or 12 have. The are far more sleek. http://www.flytoanothertime.com/lockheed/lockheedindex.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lodestar 0 #8 March 5, 2011 I was going to say that one was an Electra, but the one we had at the Hills was a "lodestar I believe. At least that's what we called it. I remember seeing that on the data panel but it's been so long I couldn't be positive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Lodestar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 March 5, 2011 QuoteI was going to say that one was an Electra, but the one we had at the Hills was a "lodestar I believe. At least that's what we called it. I remember seeing that on the data panel but it's been so long I couldn't be positive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Lodestar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 0 #10 March 5, 2011 It's a Lodestar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #11 March 5, 2011 Ventura B-34 Lexington / B-37 PV Ventura / Harpoon AKA Lodestar better known in skydiving as a lodestall http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Venturayou can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 20 #12 March 5, 2011 Quote This aircraft (see photos) has been sitting a Cal City for sometime now. I can't figure out what kind of Lockheed it is... walked around it a couple of times and cannot find a data plate. Yes, smart-asses, I know its prop-less... Anyway, figured Howard will know. Lodestar. The prettiest mod was the Learstar, smoothed out everything. Cleaned up the nacelles and even got rid of the draggy Fowler flap bumps. Check out Mike Zoeller's website. Look at the bottom and click away. He documents every Lodestar mod ever made. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/m.zoeller/ I have some right seat time in a stock Lodestar, a Learstar MK1 and a Howard 250 Tri Gear Lodestar. The tail draggers are a real handful in a gusty crosswind. I let the guy to the left of me do the frantic rudder and yoke dance. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lekstrom10k 0 #13 March 5, 2011 Without side or rear shots its hard to say. By the looks of the belly so low I would go Lode star for sure . A 10-E and 12 had straight bellys. From the side 10-e had 5 windows while the 12 had only 3 ." Amelia" the recent movie swapped them around as there werent enough flying ones available. I was part owner of the one that burned up in Yankee Air Force Museum in Ypsalanti Michigan. Steve Fellows was the first owner after buying it from his Aero- mechanic school. I have jumped all three mentioned plus the Connie from WFFC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #14 March 5, 2011 One more pic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poppenhager 1 #15 March 5, 2011 L18 Loadstar w/wright 1820 1200hp engines(early models) had 1000hp.POPQuote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Beerlight 0 #16 March 5, 2011 Howard Super Ventura http://www.airliners.net/photo/Howard-Super-Ventura/0593127/L/&sid=2d5bf36501e002d28cb66afefba706e1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lodestar 0 #17 March 5, 2011 What, no Turbo conversions.....with JATO assist... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jonstark 8 #18 March 5, 2011 Go to the front of the engines find the data plates. We need to know the make and model of the engines to tell whether it is a conversion. The Lockheed Lodestar was the top of the corporate aviation flightline pecking order until the turbines came out. In 1957 the Grumman Gulfstream, later known as the GI (G-one), took the place of this a/c. Turbines had become more reliable and were more quiet. The Lodestar remained a desirable stallion for years to come especially with the border running drug trade. jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lekstrom10k 0 #19 March 5, 2011 Paul I also jumped Sweets lodestar early 70's at your place. You had a meet going on for accuracy. We jumped the C-170's with the beer bouys for the pilots.Dave Sauve was there too . I talkto him still if you want his number I have it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rapter 0 #20 March 5, 2011 Van said it was some kind of de Havilland aircraft, but haven't found out what one. Only the good die young, so I have found immortality, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZigZagMarquis 8 #21 March 6, 2011 QuoteVan said it was some kind of de Havilland aircraft, but haven't found out what one. I think you're thinking of the other aircraft, Cary. The one north of what is apparently a Loadstar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #22 March 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteVan said it was some kind of de Havilland aircraft, but haven't found out what one. I think you're thinking of the other aircraft, Cary. The one north of what is apparently a Loadstar. There is one at Eloy as well.. http://wikimapia.org/#lat=32.8042207&lon=-111.5866032&z=19&l=0&m=b Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 135 #23 March 6, 2011 me thinks it's either an An-2 or a Lockheed Model 14 Super Electrascissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lekstrom10k 0 #24 March 6, 2011 The AN-2 was the Russian Bi-Plane with the 1000 horse power Radial engine At the time it was the most widely produced airplane in the world , built in 8 countries even above C-172. Its definitely a Lodestar . The only one of that era I didnt jump was the Hudson. They were used as Light Bombers and trainers for the big boys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #25 March 7, 2011 Yep and you can have for a low price too, make a bunch of money on the boogies hauling skydivers......LOL http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1943-Lockheed-Lodestar-Aircraft-/290542256545?pt=Motors_Aircraft&hash=item43a5ab01a1you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Beerlight 0 #16 March 5, 2011 Howard Super Ventura http://www.airliners.net/photo/Howard-Super-Ventura/0593127/L/&sid=2d5bf36501e002d28cb66afefba706e1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lodestar 0 #17 March 5, 2011 What, no Turbo conversions.....with JATO assist... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonstark 8 #18 March 5, 2011 Go to the front of the engines find the data plates. We need to know the make and model of the engines to tell whether it is a conversion. The Lockheed Lodestar was the top of the corporate aviation flightline pecking order until the turbines came out. In 1957 the Grumman Gulfstream, later known as the GI (G-one), took the place of this a/c. Turbines had become more reliable and were more quiet. The Lodestar remained a desirable stallion for years to come especially with the border running drug trade. jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lekstrom10k 0 #19 March 5, 2011 Paul I also jumped Sweets lodestar early 70's at your place. You had a meet going on for accuracy. We jumped the C-170's with the beer bouys for the pilots.Dave Sauve was there too . I talkto him still if you want his number I have it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapter 0 #20 March 5, 2011 Van said it was some kind of de Havilland aircraft, but haven't found out what one. Only the good die young, so I have found immortality, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #21 March 6, 2011 QuoteVan said it was some kind of de Havilland aircraft, but haven't found out what one. I think you're thinking of the other aircraft, Cary. The one north of what is apparently a Loadstar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #22 March 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteVan said it was some kind of de Havilland aircraft, but haven't found out what one. I think you're thinking of the other aircraft, Cary. The one north of what is apparently a Loadstar. There is one at Eloy as well.. http://wikimapia.org/#lat=32.8042207&lon=-111.5866032&z=19&l=0&m=b Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #23 March 6, 2011 me thinks it's either an An-2 or a Lockheed Model 14 Super Electrascissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lekstrom10k 0 #24 March 6, 2011 The AN-2 was the Russian Bi-Plane with the 1000 horse power Radial engine At the time it was the most widely produced airplane in the world , built in 8 countries even above C-172. Its definitely a Lodestar . The only one of that era I didnt jump was the Hudson. They were used as Light Bombers and trainers for the big boys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #25 March 7, 2011 Yep and you can have for a low price too, make a bunch of money on the boogies hauling skydivers......LOL http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1943-Lockheed-Lodestar-Aircraft-/290542256545?pt=Motors_Aircraft&hash=item43a5ab01a1you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
