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5 hours ago, ParrotheadVol said:

So, how do you suppose that the FBI finally figured out it was Christiansen? They obviously didn't reach out to any of your "witnesses". Otherwise you'd have been posting about that relentlessly, just like you do about the campouts. Lyle would have certainly told you if they came to him. As you pointed out, too late to get records from NWA. So, if they know it was Christiansen, how did they figure it out?

(((The answer is pretty simple: They didn't))).

Well...I don't KNOW how they figured it out. They were provided a report on KC and company that ran ten pages beyond the public one we released for download at Adventure Books. They got a copy of every single picture, recording, file, and scans of my notes from interviews. It was an extensive set of files. 

To tell you the truth, I was really surprised when Troy Bentz came forward with his story regarding what Agent Jarvis told he and his two friends. But I was faced with the fact that Bentz and his friends worked for the US Navy in civil service jobs, had security clearances, and everything they provided....where they worked in the DC area, what they did for the Navy, their basic family histories....all checked out. And we checked these guys out quite a bit. I couldn't find a single hole in their story. Hell, they even named the baseball game they all went to together when Jarvis said these things...and got the final score right.

What do you want from me? I tried contacting Jarvis. He didn't answer. I contacted the Seattle FBI. They went into immediate denial. I verified the three men's identities and addresses in the WA DC area. I spoke to two of them over the phone. And I examined a boatload of emails. Extensively. 

And after all that I couldn't find a single hole in their story, and no reason why they would deliberately risk their careers and their friendship with a senior FBI agent to tell me these things? Like the saying goes, 'whaddaya want from ME?' I have to put it in the category of good evidence. 

The only thing I have been able to come up with since that time on a 'why' is that decisions to drop major cases do not come from the case agent. They come from further up the food chain. In other words, just because an FBI agent is the latest person  assigned to a cold case does not give him the authority to drop a case the FBI chased...and spent millions of dollars on...ON HIS OWN. Obviously, the decision to drop the case came from further up the line. It was probably the HQ in DC, combined with work out of Quantico somehow that made the FBI decide to finally drop the whole thing. If they questioned Geestman at his house near Port Angeles, WA...I would never hear about that. After his appearance on Decoded, Geestman didn't even talk to his own family, none of whom even lived near Port Angeles. 

Jarvis, at the time of this incident, was a senior agent with 15 years experience, and worked Behavioral Profiling out of Quantico. The only explanation is that he was either privy to...or actively participated in...using all those files and that report to verify somehow that KC was actually Cooper. It's the only thing I can think of. The report itself stressed very heavily that both Mr and Mrs Geestman were the only two people that we believe knew everything for sure. Others just had bits and pieces. We stressed that HEAVILY. 

Mrs. Geestman sold her ranch some months after the Decoded show aired and instructed her lawyer (S. Renee Ewalt) and her banker (Dave Thomson of Winthrop, WA) to not reveal where she was going from there. Mr Geestman demanded that his sister Dawn Androsko retract everything she had said regarding both he and Kenny Christiansen. She refused. Geestman himself refused to talk to anyone further, even members of his own family, after the Decoded show aired. 

My best guess on this whole thing is that the FBI contacted BERNIE GEESTMAN, reminded him of what he had told History Channel researchers (he didn't know Kenny well and Kenny was NOT the hijacker), as well as his statements on the show later saying he thought Kenny could be the hijacker, as well as admitting he worked with Kenny for years both on Shemya Island and for NWA back in Seattle. A complete turnaround. Kenny was also best man at his wedding, although Geestman skips over that part.

"You're asking me for MY opinion?" (if Kenny was Cooper) "Yes. He looks just like him." (The FBI's description and sketch.) That is from his statements on Decoded. But what Bernie didn't realize is that we already knew he was with Kenny the week of the hijacking. 

From there, the FBI would see in our report that several witnesses had placed him WITH Kenny the entire week the hijacking occurred. Witnesses they didn't know about until we revealed their identities. These people included Helen Jones, her daughter, and some members of his own family. Faced with these things...Geestman may have confessed. Why wouldn't he? The FBI would inform him that he had already lied about his relationship with Kenny several times, then tossed him under the bus on Decoded, and that members of his own family as well as friends put him together with Kenny the entire week the hijacking occurred. And perhaps due to his age, and his cooperation, and the fact that he wasn't the one who actually hijacked the plane...accepted information from him on a deal that would free him from prosecution and finally end a case that had dogged them for over four decades. 

That is a very plausible scenario. They would have come armed with the full version of the report, plus his statements to History Channel researchers and to the cast and crew of Decoded. And of course, what other family members and friends of his had already put on the record. 

Below: Where the FBI's investigation into the Cooper hijacking may finally have met its end.

Bernie Geestman's house outside Port Angeles, WA. 

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1 hour ago, Andrade1812 said:

Fly, I remember you were talking about dredge spoils that might have come to the Tena Bar area from near the Lewis River confluence, do you have a source document for that?

That is one of my theories... I am working on.. somebody else asked the same question, I have several reports that mention moving dredge material upstream for various projects but aren't very specific, those reports are in a folder of hundreds of reports. I looked and couldn't find which ones it was in.. I'll look again but it might take some time, there were several reports buried somewhere in my computer..

I recall Sauvie Island shoreline and there was a dredge operation that moved material and dumped it in the middle of the Columbia.. my impression was that material was moved all over.

I didn't find anything that indicated a specific dump on TBAR.

But, I recently found this.. part 9 page 206

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Question...

I have heard for years that Cooper had a sloped forehead near the hairline, but I can't find the source..

Is it legit or another Cooper myth???

 

Does anybody have a source, I searched the FBI files and couldn't find anything.

 

Also for bonus points, the scar on the left hand rumour tracked back to Jo Weber, any other legit sources??

 

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4 hours ago, FLYJACK said:

There it is,,

The FBI solved the Cooper case based on junior super secret agent Blevins KC report. They kept it quiet and closed the case.. probably too embarrassed having Blevins solve the case.

That is the epitome of confirmation bias...

And oddly enough, they only needed to talk to ol' Bernie and get a confession. Of course, Bernie is dead now so he can neither confirm or deny this. Also, if a confession was all it took to solve this case, it would have been solved long ago. 

Interestingly, the FBI looked into dead suspects prior and had no problem making it public (Remember LD, their "most promising" suspect). But once they figure out it's Kenny, they decide to keep it quiet??

 

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52 minutes ago, ParrotheadVol said:

Speaking of solving the Cooper case, anyone have any idea when Dan Gryder is going to drop his solution?

I thought it was coming the 24th, but haven't seen anything yet. I'm interested hear what he has.

He bumped it to early December..

Looks like his Cooper reproduction jump was just South of the Columbia..

 

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On 9/3/2021 at 2:37 PM, FLYJACK said:

So far, I have identified 80 TBAR bills from many sources.. including the top bills from 11 of the 12 Ingram stacks. (remember they kept 4 bills and handed them over later so the top ones may not be the actual top ones)

B09090997B 1963 A TBAR
C13871652A 1963 A TBAR
D27112759A 1969 TBAR
E41933578A 1969 TBAR
E61102414A 1963 A TBAR
E65330757A 1963 A TBAR
F07553334A 1969 TBAR
G00061029B 1969 TBAR
G03072381B 1969 TBAR Kept by Ingrams later turned in
G21056376B 1963 A TBAR
G45632911B 1963 A TBAR
G54783796B 1963 A TBAR
I03006119A 1969 TBAR
I03389775A 1963 A TBAR
I06638737A 1969 TBAR
J09534759A 1969 TBAR
J12657135A 1969 TBAR
J16396253A 1969 TBAR
J20209868A 1963 A TBAR
K03654750A 1969 TBAR
L01781113A 1969 TBAR
L01842041A 1969 TBAR
L02882111B 1963 A TBAR
L03160387B 1963 A TBAR
L03166965B 1963 A TBAR
L04461895* 1963 A TBAR
L06832736A 1969 TBAR
L10919321A 1969 TBAR Kept by Ingrams later turned in
L12650395A 1969 TBAR
L12907861A 1969 TBAR
L19629118B 1963 A TBAR
L20210452A 1969 TBAR
L20211452B 1963 A TBAR
L20301456A 1969 TBAR
L29575638A 1969 TBAR
L29859540B 1963 A TBAR
L30008289A 1969 TBAR
L32700814A 1969 TBAR
L32987392A 1969 TBAR Kept by Ingrams later turned in
L34047759A 1969 TBAR
L34212082A 1969 TBAR
L34403254A 1969 TBAR
L34458940A 1969 TBAR
L34589413A 1969 TBAR
L34628654A 1969 TBAR
L34641262A 1969 TBAR
L36246726A 1969 TBAR
L36692532A 1963 A TBAR
L38138140A 1969 TBAR
L38513685A 1969 TBAR
L43214579A 1969 TBAR
L47621840A 1969 TBAR
L48603996A 1969 TBAR
L48628301A 1969 TBAR
L49839325B 1963 A TBAR
L51079019B 1963 A TBAR
L51236377B 1963 A TBAR
L51303841A 1969 TBAR
L55066857A 1969 TBAR Kept by Ingrams later turned in
L57110577A 1969 TBAR
L66606663B 1963 A TBAR
L68886415B 1963 A TBAR
L69210458B 1963 A TBAR
L72525838B 1963 A TBAR
L72738527B 1963 A TBAR
L73000558B 1963 A TBAR
L75500928B 1963 A TBAR
L86567062A 1969 TBAR

 
 
 
11 OF THE 12 STACKS TOP BILL

H27412938A 1963 A TBAR TOP BILL OF 12
I02442844A 1969 TBAR TOP BILL OF 12
I02591811A 1969 TBAR TOP BILL OF 12
L09781412A 1969 TBAR TOP BILL OF 12
L20452751A 1969 TBAR TOP BILL OF 12
L20848242A 1969 TBAR TOP BILL OF 12
L30706882B 1963 A TBAR TOP BILL OF 12
L35399523B 1963 A TBAR TOP BILL OF 12
L53307222A 1969 TBAR TOP BILL OF 12
L55376548B 1963 A TBAR TOP BILL OF 12
L55479078B 1963 A TBAR TOP BILL OF 12
 
 
FRAGMENT FOUND ON TOP 

E06379503* 1963 A TBAR TOP BILL OF 12 FRAGMENT
 
 
 
 
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Found another Cooper bill, Himmelsbach had this one. A particularly nice one.

Snow can steal this one as for his list well then insult me.

L38673217 A 1969

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6 hours ago, FLYJACK said:

Question...

I have heard for years that Cooper had a sloped forehead near the hairline, but I can't find the source..

Is it legit or another Cooper myth???

 

Does anybody have a source, I searched the FBI files and couldn't find anything.

 

Also for bonus points, the scar on the left hand rumour tracked back to Jo Weber, any other legit sources??

 

Well, the sloped/slanted forehead tracks back to Jo Weber as well... unbelievable

 

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Fly. The only place I’ve heard of the scar is from Gunther’s book. Is it somewhere else? Jo liked Gunther a lot and supposedly talked to him a lot. If she got it from him, then that’s where it started. He published in 1985. I’ve asked around and I don’t think anyone else has been able to come up with info on the scar. 

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2 hours ago, ParrotheadVol said:

Let me venture a guess here...Duane had a sloped/slanted forehead as well as the scar?

BINGO...

Outside of Jo Weber I can't confirm the scar on the hand or the slanted/sloped forehead.

She did have contact with agents and got some info that way, perhaps the store break in, she also made up a lot of stuff.

Gray's book mentions the "sloped forehead" but no source..

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10 hours ago, FLYJACK said:

There it is,,

The FBI solved the Cooper case based on junior super secret agent Blevins KC report. They kept it quiet and closed the case.. probably too embarrassed having Blevins solve the case.

That is the epitome of confirmation bias...

Do not presume to put words in my mouth. I did not say that.

I gave a possible scenario on why the FBI decided to close the case just one year after we submitted all the files. Files they told us at AB they WANTED to see. (I asked them. Unlike you, we dealt with them as (wait for it now) 'real people with real identities') I know that's a tricky concept. Dealing with people and organizations on the internet, by phone, or by email using your real identity. B)

But it gets pretty good results. 

For everyone else: I am NOT Jo Weber, and neither was Skipp Porteous. 

You do have one point solidly. I will probably never be able to prove that is what happened unless the FBI admits that is what happened. It is one of the reasons I stopped our active investigation into Christiansen and Geestman. I figured we had done what we could and unless something new came up, there was no point in taking it any further. But Parrothead asked what we thought might have happened to motivate the FBI to close the case, and I gave it my best shot. 

And unlike Jo Weber, I don't claim I am 100% sure on Christiansen and Geestman. I cannot say that.

Do I suspect they were guilty as sin? Not just yeah, but HELL yeah. Will I be able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt? Not without some cooperation from the FBI. No way. 

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35 minutes ago, RobertMBlevins said:

Do not presume to put words in my mouth. I did not say that.

I gave a possible scenario on why the FBI decided to close the case just one year after we submitted all the files. Files they told us at AB they WANTED to see. (I asked them. Unlike you, we dealt with them as (wait for it now) 'real people with real identities') I know that's a tricky concept. Dealing with people and organizations on the internet, by phone, or by email using your real identity. B)

But it gets pretty good results. 

For everyone else: I am NOT Jo Weber, and neither was Skipp Porteous. 

You do have one point solidly. I will probably never be able to prove that is what happened unless the FBI admits that is what happened. It is one of the reasons I stopped our active investigation into Christiansen and Geestman. I figured we had done what we could and unless something new came up, there was no point in taking it any further. But Parrothead asked what we thought might have happened to motivate the FBI to close the case, and I gave it my best shot. 

And unlike Jo Weber, I don't claim I am 100% sure on Christiansen and Geestman. I cannot say that.

Do I suspect they were guilty as sin? Not just yeah, but HELL yeah. Will I be able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt? Not without some coop from the FBI. No way. 

 

Right, you didn't say it, you just gave a possible scenario.. and what you HELL yeah believe. So, you did say it. But yet you deny it,,, very clever psychological ninja game you play special junior agent,, very clever.

I have communicated with the FBI. Promise.

And I am a real person, I asked my wife and she said yes.. So there,

 

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1 hour ago, FLYJACK said:

Right, you didn't say it, you just gave a possible scenario.. and what you HELL yeah believe. So, you did say it. But yet you deny it,,, very clever psychological ninja game you play special junior agent,, very clever.

I have communicated with the FBI. Promise.

And I am a real person, I asked my wife and she said yes.. So there,

Of course I said that. I quoted it again to make sure you and others understand. There is no ninja stuff. It's pretty straight up. I don't care whether you go public or not. But there are credibility issues when you don't. Not serious ones, but they exist. You also keep claiming you have communicated with the FBI, and yet you have not presented one single shred of evidence you actually did, and that they answered you. So we just have your word on that. And this is where (again) anonymity comes into play regarding credibility. No one could check your word even if they wanted to. 

And yes...after all that has happened both Skipp and I believed we were on the right track with Christiansen and Geestman. I know you don't like hearing that, and you don't appreciate it, but you (like others in Cooperland) ALSO have a bias or two. And this is what they are:

  • If the case were actually solved, no one in Cooperland would have anything further to discuss. And if the solution turned out to be what Porteous and I suspected, then many of those in Cooperland would be left with egg hanging from their faces. So...it is natural that you should come after our investigation in every way possible. I actually understand your motivation here. 
     
  • Anyone else with a suspect out there they are investigating (like YOU for example) would realize their work had all been for nothing. That is a hard thing to accept, and I can understand resisting a possibility like that as well. 
     
  • But it is a level playing field. There is no getting around that. In other words, if you are able to prove Hahneman was the guy, or someone, somewhere, is able to prove another suspect (other than KC and Geestman) were guilty...then the same things would also apply to me. 

The difference between me and you and a few other people is that I accept the reality of this situation, and some others will pull out every stop, do every attack, whatever they can...to stay in denial about this possibility. 

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56 minutes ago, dudeman17 said:

Which begs a question...

Curious what you got for your copies of Ha Ha Ha.

First two I sold for $60 each plus the shipping. Others a bit more. I am keeping the last two I have now. They are the best condition copies anyway. And when someone here said the latest inquiries on copies were coming in from the Fenn people, I found out they were right. Forest Fenn or whatever his name was. The inquiries were coming from them. 

I don't think that many copies were actually printed back in 1983. Maybe a thousand, maybe a couple of thousand. The last bulk availability on them was the lady on Amazon who had about 70 copies available a couple of years ago. They sold out. I think she got them from the Ariel Store folks after Dona Elliot's death. But that is a guess. Since then there has been basically zero copies out there. Last week I checked damn near everywhere in North America. Nothing. It was a private printing done by contract and once the final copy was sold, chances are none of them will come up again unless it is a single copy out of Amazon via Goodwill or some thrift store book maybe. If somebody has one or two copies, they probably won't establish a seller's account at Amazon just to get rid of them. Just keep a search going, a notification from Amazon to your account telling you one is available when it comes up. 

And then...have your credit or debit card ready. 

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4 hours ago, dudeman17 said:

So who owns the rights to it? Would there be a way to get more printed, or a kindle or pdf version online? I don't know that I need to own a copy, but I'd be curious to read it.

This is maybe possible. But there are some people here and there who might object. The author, and the owner of the rights to the artwork, for example. Three people are involved in the book. I have the info on two of them and hope to have the third one soon. It is probably pointless. I could produce an exact copy with an even easier font to read, better paper, (same size, same book, just more pages) but I imagine some Cooperland folks would interfere. 

You know...like when Snownman stole Sheridan Peterson's 700-page anti-war book and put it up retail-only for a ridiculous $25 a pop at Amazon. With no worldwide distribution in wholesale. And no royalties of any meaningful amount to his family. 

Stuff like that. When it comes to books, Cooperland is full of chicanery and thieves. At least on helpless old guys, a former skydiver, at 96 years old in a retirement home. It's easier that way. :(

If I were to get involved with this book it would be first class or nothing. And no copyright violations. 

If Cooper folk want me to take such a project under my wing, I would like to hear serious support on it from those same people. It can be done quickly, but it is a lot of work and money is involved out of my own pocket. Plus I would have to make arrangements with the rights' owners. I'm sure I can do that, but I want to SEE SUPPORT if I take this project on. Otherwise I won't waste my time, effort, money, and simply be satisfied with the two copies of Ha Ha Ha I still own. 

I don't mean to be hard on people, but let's face it...after the Sheridan Peterson thing I am reluctant to try a second time. But be warned. Two of the people involved in this book value those rights they own. You can't just steal it and stick it up on Amazon this time. If Cooperland wants this, then they must show they support our effort, and not engage in baloney behind our backs. Otherwise, you can deal with the rights' owners yourself. And do the contracts. And put up the money. And 'do the job'. ¬¬ (As Cooper once said.)

I DO have a plan in mind that will benefit all three people involved in the original book, and they are looking at that plan as you read this. Two of them are, anyway. They are considering my request to know the name and current circumstances of the original author, and for rights to re-publish. (Okay...'current circumstances' means is he dead or alive for starters.)

But if there isn't any support for this idea among all of you reading this, just tell me now and save us both much time and trouble. To answer your question, yes. Paperback and Kindle are not only possible, but relatively easy. Unlike dealing with Sheridan Peterson, we're talking about people here not yet ready for nursing homes, two of whom are Facebook friends. NO...I do not know the name of the author, and if I did I wouldn't say anyway. Not publicly. But I intend to find out, especially since the other two folks involved in this book like the idea of real royalties from wholesale distribution worldwide on every continent except Antarctica.  Via PayPal or any payment method they choose. It's a motivator. 

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13 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said:

Of course I said that. I quoted it again to make sure you and others understand. There is no ninja stuff. It's pretty straight up. I don't care whether you go public or not. But there are credibility issues when you don't. Not serious ones, but they exist. You also keep claiming you have communicated with the FBI, and yet you have not presented one single shred of evidence you actually did, and that they answered you. So we just have your word on that. And this is where (again) anonymity comes into play regarding credibility. No one could check your word even if they wanted to. 

And yes...after all that has happened both Skipp and I believed we were on the right track with Christiansen and Geestman. I know you don't like hearing that, and you don't appreciate it, but you (like others in Cooperland) ALSO have a bias or two. And this is what they are:

  • If the case were actually solved, no one in Cooperland would have anything further to discuss. And if the solution turned out to be what Porteous and I suspected, then many of those in Cooperland would be left with egg hanging from their faces. So...it is natural that you should come after our investigation in every way possible. I actually understand your motivation here. 
     
  • Anyone else with a suspect out there they are investigating (like YOU for example) would realize their work had all been for nothing. That is a hard thing to accept, and I can understand resisting a possibility like that as well. 
     
  • But it is a level playing field. There is no getting around that. In other words, if you are able to prove Hahneman was the guy, or someone, somewhere, is able to prove another suspect (other than KC and Geestman) were guilty...then the same things would also apply to me. 

The difference between me and you and a few other people is that I accept the reality of this situation, and some others will pull out every stop, do every attack, whatever they can...to stay in denial about this possibility. 

You said it, then denied it, then confirmed it... reminds me of the Marxist professors I had in University.. they play that ninja mind trick all the time.. so you have no idea what their position really is and since they have taken both sides, some more than once they never lose an argument.. The matrix inside a matrix..

I don't have a KC suspect bias.. I knew the evidence eliminated KC before I ever looked into Hahneman. You got that wrong.

I wish the case were solved 100%, that is to say putting a suspect on the plane, that is what I have been trying to do but it probably requires new DNA,, maybe Eric can get the tie to Tom.. but it will cost money to test and may still be contaminated or inconclusive. As it is there is very little new to discuss publicly at a high level, so you are wrong there as well. I have thousands of pieces of info that I could discuss for a hundred years but choose not to. My motivation is not social or discussions but to solve this thing.

 

The difference is, you fail to accept the universal reality, and claim your reality is true. It is only your perception, there are universal truths backed by evidence, reason and logic. To maintain your reality you ignore and reject universal truths and exaggerate and elevate supporting information. You engage in extreme confirmation bias. Most people cannot see and compensate for their own bias. Some are just better at suppressing bias than others, even professional investigators can be sucked in by bias.

Eric did the same thing with Sheridan, when I pointed out contradictory evidence he attacked the messenger calling me a troll and a liar.. but he has finally realized to his credit that he was wrong about Sheridan. 

You're bias has done the same,, KC was not Cooper and you attack the messenger.. not the facts.

The Forrest Fenn crowd is doing the same thing with Cooper.. they claim to be very careful about confirmation bias then proceed with it full speed ahead..

They claim Fenn faked smoking.

They claim he wore contacts.

They claim he darkened his complexion.

They claim he disguised his accent.

They claim he needed money and became a sky-pirate.

They claim he had a grudge against the Gov so he took their money,, oops it wasn't the Gov money.

I think they know better but are trying to build a new following as the Forrest Fenn world has ended. Like a black hole they are co-opting and consuming the Cooperverse.. to expand a collapsing base. I am sure they are working on some way to monetize it, a Cooper-Fenn treasure hunt with baubles, t-shirts, hats or a board game.. a sucker born every minute. HAHAHA..

 

The problem with the Cooper case is that there are actually very few hard facts.. really,, and that means people can twist and contort virtually any suspect to fit by claiming what is "possible". Intellectually, anything is possible.. but if that is your standard then almost anyone can be Cooper and that is the dangerous lure of the Vortex, it turns your mind inside out, distorts realty, it is the ultimate intellectual puzzle and test of reason where most of the pieces are missing and many don't even belong..  it exposes mediocre thinking. You can enter but you can never leave,, at least not intact.

I have put together a checklist of Cooper facts and a profile mostly based on the one in the FBI files, if you run these prominent suspects against that list they are all very weak or rejected. Some suspects don't have enough info. 

 

If part time junior super secret agent Blevins was intellectually honest with himself he would admit KC was not Cooper just as Eric has with Sheridan.

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Andrade1812 said:

Do we have a log of the available flights out of PDX that a Cooper suspect *could* have taken out of the area after the hijacking?

In particular, flights to Salt Lake City or Vegas.

Apropos nothing in particular...

A partial flight schedule out of Portland may be listed on Shutter's site.

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