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41 minutes ago, RobertMBlevins said:

No worries. I believe you. Only people with a side agenda do multiple online identities in the Cooper case. You also have a book out there on the case, and are unlikely to engage in stuff like that. I don't know much about you, but I never thought you had a side agenda going. B)

Cut it out Robert Blevins. We've been through this before.  Some people just want their privacy.  Your agenda has always been Kenny Christenson, so let's not start throwing rocks from a glass house.

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15 hours ago, CooperNWO305 said:

Cut it out Robert Blevins. We've been through this before.  Some people just want their privacy.  Your agenda has always been Kenny Christensen, so let's not start throwing rocks from a glass house.

There is nothing wrong with wanting privacy, which is different from anonymity. I screen my phone calls. I have a spam filter. No visitors (including media) to the house unless I invite them, or they make a request. I screen comments to my YouTube and WordPress. Only friends I approve can see my Facebook. That is privacy. Anonymity is different. But anonymity is the wrong approach if you plan to create a book or answer media questions regarding the Cooper case. Examples of people who realize this:

Geoffrey Gray
Skipp Porteous
Bruce Smith
Eric U 
Almost anyone who has done a Cooper-related book
Yours truly

I don't really care if people want to go anonymous, but if they plan on a book, or are asked to appear on a television show, or participate somehow in the creation of a feature film on the case...they are being silly. There is no credibility available to you in anonymity. You have no background, no website, no history, nothing people can check to see if you are a real person with credentials. But having said that, there is still nothing inherently wrong with it unless your only plan is to discuss the case ad infinitum with other anonymous (or known) people. 

The 'wrong,' if you can call it that, is when you use that anonymity as a crutch to attack others, i.e. sniping at people unfairly or very nastily, from behind a rock. Georger, aka Johnnie Greene, aka using other known characters in the Cooper case exploration, etc is guilty of that in spades. You have not seen his posts outside of Dropzone or the Cooper Forum, or the Bruce Smith site. He has been all over the damn place. (His comments to the Regina Winkles articles were SO bad, using several different names all with the same IP address...that Matt Mullenweg, the co-creator of WordPress, actually got involved.) He has called my house at nearly midnight...the same day he was banned from DZ for personal attacks. I let it go to voice mail. 

Have the online attacks taken a toll on people? Have they alienated one investigator from another? 

Is the Pope Catholic? Yes. Look at the reality of things. Several things now exist in that reality as a result.

Here is a partial list:

1) The Ariel Store will probably never reopen, and all the Cooper memorabilia there will end up in different hands, mostly by members of Bryan W's family, who are eager to sell off everything, as well as the property, and split it up. They believe they were unfairly treated in Dona E's will. (So far, Bryan has been able to fend them off, fortunately. But he has told me about this situation personally.) Absolutely NO ONE supported AB's efforts to help get that store back up again, even when my own mother proposed putting up over $100,000 from my trust fund. (I inquired with her about doing this the day after we did the fundraiser there in 2016 with Travel Channel.) Poison pen messages and lies by Bruce Smith, such as the one where he says I threatened him, caused me to cancel the whole idea. Most of this stuff came from Smith, Georger, and to a lesser extent, Shutter. Senseless. Shutter's excuse is that he had a blanket policy of non-support to anything done by AB of Seattle in the Cooper case. If we proposed a fundraiser on a Cooper campout and the money was going to Childrens' Hospital in Seattle...he would be against it. 

2) Shutter has a very big forum going on the case, but these days not that many people are paying attention. It doesn't help when people post up their latest podcast, or their latest evidence, or their upcoming book, and all the public gets to see is this:  "You are not allowed to view pictures or links. Register or Login." That is silly beyond belief by the way. Imagine if the same thing was going on at Dropzone, Quora, or WordPress. 

3) Online anonymous attacks, or attacks by people using the same usernames they have used for years, have slowed to a degree, but haven't stopped. I guess that is the GOOD news. 

4) Except for a small, very closed group of people, no one works together on practically anything, or supports anyone else's efforts with the public on the case. But the only result of that has been less public interest in the case. The one time I made all the details for one of our Cooper Campouts public, (the one we did last year south of Portland) Georger and his friends jumped out of the woodwork using (again) Bruce Smith's site and made threats against the event, saying they would show up at the gathering spot for the trip and cause trouble. As a result, Tom English and I (he's a friend from the Infamous Nissan support forum) had to move the meetup spot at the last minute. 

5) The attacks, the online non-cooperation, the refusal to share certain information, the lack of mutual support...all of this has contributed to some media types ignoring the crazies and the anonymous folks...and coming to people like Geoff Gray and myself instead. What Cooper investigators forget is that THEY aren't the only ones who see the 'bad stuff'. This has caused the hate meter to go off the scale occasionally with some people in Cooperland...but these people refuse to admit they were the ones who caused this situation in the first place. Now we approach the fiftieth anniversary of the hijacking, and my email box has been popping up with more messages on the case than ever before. Sometimes I get a media type who asks me 'who is an expert,' or 'who else can I talk to?' and I don't have a clue where to send them. Maybe Geoff Gray, but except for his participation in the movie, i.e. helping on the script for historical accuracy, he wants nothing more to do with Cooperland. And let's face it...he's helping on that because he's getting paid to do that. I like Geoff, but I wanted to help Bruce Smith instead, get HIM the job. God knows he could use the money. He foolishly rejected the idea, and now blames me, hates me even more than he did BEFORE I made him the offer. This could only happen in Cooperland. Bruce's mistake is that he thought I was BS'ing him about the offer from the production companies. When he realized later that I wasn't...he gets mad at ME about it. Go figure. 

6) Cooper conventions that should have been packed houses and REAL public events have been nothing but a few people showing up who mostly know each other anyway. I call them 'mutual back-scratching events'. On the last one, media coverage was less than the one held the year prior. Not a single picture was released of the crowd at the Kiggins Theater. When I inquired on this situation later, I was told by a solid source not THAT many people actually showed up. It was twenty bucks to get in, and you couldn't even buy tickets at the door. EU deliberately trashed our idea for holding the combination event in Portland, even though (looking back now) he would have done much better had he kept his word. He was offered the hosting job and the chance to introduce everyone he wanted to be on the speaker list, as well as some real celebrities. The Cooper Lookalike contest for those $1,000 in Amazon gift cards (donated by AB of Seattle) would have packed the house easily. He insulted a lot of people doing that, and had some secret support along the way, which was not revealed until later. As a result, I am no longer interested in participating in any future Cooper conventions. 

7) I know that if all the major players in Cooperland see this post, many of them won't like it, but....the result of all that has happened is very simple. You will all be left in the dust by the public. No one will care, nothing you want will get done. The store in Ariel is probably now history. Major conventions will never happen, and your books will continue to sell poorly. And you will leave me as the sole winner in all of this, and afterward I will be more than happy to extricate myself from Cooperland and move on to something else. For example, I just finished my movie script based on the famous novel by the late, great Marjorie Phleger, Pilot Down, Presumed Dead and it's a damn good story. I own all the rights to that book, assigned to me years ago by both the family and Harper Collins. This project is much more fun than Cooper and comes with far fewer headaches. I may even try getting an agent to approach Disney on it, due to the nature of the story. 

Cooperland these days is nothing to me but a big, fat headache that I wish to end as soon as possible... ^_^ LOL our final Cooper Campout is coming in June (if weather is okay). I may just do something I don't generally do on these trips. I may just drink myself silly and PASS OUT. Haven't done that since I was in community college. (*laughs*) 

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11 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said:

There is nothing wrong with wanting privacy, which is different from anonymity. I screen my phone calls. I have a spam filter. No visitors (including media) to the house unless I invite them, or they make a request. I screen comments to my YouTube and WordPress. Only friends I approve can see my Facebook. That is privacy. Anonymity is different. But anonymity is the wrong approach if you plan to create a book or answer media questions regarding the Cooper case. Examples of people who realize this:

Geoffrey Gray
Skipp Porteous
Bruce Smith
Eric U 
Almost anyone who has done a Cooper-related book
Yours truly

I don't really care if people want to go anonymous, but if they plan on a book, or are asked to appear on a television show, or participate somehow in the creation of a feature film on the case...they are being silly. There is no credibility available to you in anonymity. You have no background, no website, no history, nothing people can check to see if you are a real person with credentials. But having said that, there is still nothing inherently wrong with it unless your only plan is to discuss the case ad infinitum with other anonymous (or known) people. 

The 'wrong,' if you can call it that, is when you use that anonymity as a crutch to attack others, i.e. sniping at people unfairly or very nastily, from behind a rock. Georger, aka Johnnie Greene, aka using other known characters in the Cooper case exploration, etc is guilty of that in spades. You have not seen his posts outside of Dropzone or the Cooper Forum, or the Bruce Smith site. He has been all over the damn place. (His comments to the Regina Winkles articles were SO bad, using several different names all with the same IP address...that Matt Mullenweg, the co-creator of WordPress, actually got involved.) He has called my house at nearly midnight...the same day he was banned from DZ for personal attacks. I let it go to voice mail. 

Have the online attacks taken a toll on people? Have they alienated one investigator from another? 

Is the Pope Catholic? Yes. Look at the reality of things. Several things now exist in that reality as a result.

Here is a partial list:

1) The Ariel Store will probably never reopen, and all the Cooper memorabilia there will end up in different hands, mostly by members of Bryan W's family, who are eager to sell off everything, as well as the property, and split it up. They believe they were unfairly treated in Dona E's will. (So far, Bryan has been able to fend them off, fortunately. But he has told me about this situation personally.) Absolutely NO ONE supported AB's efforts to help get that store back up again, even when my own mother proposed putting up over $100,000 from my trust fund. (I inquired with her about doing this the day after we did the fundraiser there in 2016 with Travel Channel.) Poison pen messages and lies by Bruce Smith, such as the one where he says I threatened him, caused me to cancel the whole idea. Most of this stuff came from Smith, Georger, and to a lesser extent, Shutter. Senseless. Shutter's excuse is that he had a blanket policy of non-support to anything done by AB of Seattle in the Cooper case. If we proposed a fundraiser on a Cooper campout and the money was going to Childrens' Hospital in Seattle...he would be against it. 

2) Shutter has a very big forum going on the case, but these days not that many people are paying attention. It doesn't help when people post up their latest podcast, or their latest evidence, or their upcoming book, and all the public gets to see is this:  "You are not allowed to view pictures or links. Register or Login." That is silly beyond belief by the way. Imagine if the same thing was going on at Dropzone, Quora, or WordPress. 

3) Online anonymous attacks, or attacks by people using the same usernames they have used for years, have slowed to a degree, but haven't stopped. I guess that is the GOOD news. 

4) Except for a small, very closed group of people, no one works together on practically anything, or supports anyone else's efforts with the public on the case. But the only result of that has been less public interest in the case. The one time I made all the details for one of our Cooper Campouts public, (the one we did last year south of Portland) Georger and his friends jumped out of the woodwork using (again) Bruce Smith's site and made threats against the event, saying they would show up at the gathering spot for the trip and cause trouble. As a result, Tom English and I (he's a friend from the Infamous Nissan support forum) had to move the meetup spot at the last minute. 

5) The attacks, the online non-cooperation, the refusal to share certain information, the lack of mutual support...all of this has contributed to some media types ignoring the crazies and the anonymous folks...and coming to people like Geoff Gray and myself instead. What Cooper investigators forget is that THEY aren't the only ones who see the 'bad stuff'. This has caused the hate meter to go off the scale occasionally with some people in Cooperland...but these people refuse to admit they were the ones who caused this situation in the first place. Now we approach the fiftieth anniversary of the hijacking, and my email box has been popping up with more messages on the case than ever before. Sometimes I get a media type who asks me 'who is an expert,' or 'who else can I talk to?' and I don't have a clue where to send them. Maybe Geoff Gray, but except for his participation in the movie, i.e. helping on the script for historical accuracy, he wants nothing more to do with Cooperland. And let's face it...he's helping on that because he's getting paid to do that. I like Geoff, but I wanted to help Bruce Smith instead, get HIM the job. God knows he could use the money. He foolishly rejected the idea, and now blames me, hates me even more than he did BEFORE I made him the offer. This could only happen in Cooperland. Bruce's mistake is that he thought I was BS'ing him about the offer from the production companies. When he realized later that I wasn't...he gets mad at ME about it. Go figure. 

6) Cooper conventions that should have been packed houses and REAL public events have been nothing but a few people showing up who mostly know each other anyway. I call them 'mutual back-scratching events'. On the last one, media coverage was less than the one held the year prior. Not a single picture was released of the crowd at the Kiggins Theater. When I inquired on this situation later, I was told by a solid source not THAT many people actually showed up. It was twenty bucks to get in, and you couldn't even buy tickets at the door. EU deliberately trashed our idea for holding the combination event in Portland, even though (looking back now) he would have done much better had he kept his word. He was offered the hosting job and the chance to introduce everyone he wanted to be on the speaker list, as well as some real celebrities. The Cooper Lookalike contest for those $1,000 in Amazon gift cards (donated by AB of Seattle) would have packed the house easily. He insulted a lot of people doing that, and had some secret support along the way, which was not revealed until later. As a result, I am no longer interested in participating in any future Cooper conventions. 

7) I know that if all the major players in Cooperland see this post, many of them won't like it, but....the result of all that has happened is very simple. You will all be left in the dust by the public. No one will care, nothing you want will get done. The store in Ariel is probably now history. Major conventions will never happen, and your books will continue to sell poorly. And you will leave me as the sole winner in all of this, and afterward I will be more than happy to extricate myself from Cooperland and move on to something else. For example, I just finished my movie script based on the famous novel by the late, great Marjorie Phleger, Pilot Down, Presumed Dead and it's a damn good story. I own all the rights to that book, assigned to me years ago by both the family and Harper Collins. This project is much more fun than Cooper and comes with far fewer headaches. I may even try getting an agent to approach Disney on it, due to the nature of the story. 

Cooperland these days is nothing to me but a big, fat headache that I wish to end as soon as possible... ^_^ LOL our final Cooper Campout is coming in June (if weather is okay). I may just do something I don't generally do on these trips. I may just drink myself silly and PASS OUT. Haven't done that since I was in community college. (*laughs*) 

Robert: My intent was not to be harsh, but mainly to say that you and most all of us have some sort of agenda, whether it is notoriety, wanting to get attention for a specific suspect, or just wanting to dig really deep into the case.

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You wrote the below:

But anonymity is the wrong approach if you plan to create a book or answer media questions regarding the Cooper case. Examples of people who realize this:

Geoffrey Gray
Skipp Porteous
Bruce Smith
Eric U 
Almost anyone who has done a Cooper-related book
Yours truly

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I frankly see this as a little passive aggressive.  I've seen you go after a number of these people, but in this post you use them in a positive way.  You're all over the map on this.  Some days you hate them, but today you like them?

You have a bone to pick with Georger and others, but that does not mean that they should not be able to stay private or anonymous.  And, just because someone is writing a book or using their real name, does not mean they are above board or of good character.

My feeling on all of the anonymity/privacy is this:

1.  If someone wants to use a screen name that is not their real name, let them do it.  That's the internet.  If they want to use different screen names across different platforms (Shutter's site, here, Mountain News) then let them.  Who really cares?

2.  If someone wants to use their real name, then it does not make someone else less worthy who uses a screen name.

3.  If you are using a second screen name to lob attacks (Johnnie Greene), then I do have some issues with that. However, Johnnie seems to only be targeting you, so in your shoes, I'd be asking myself "Did I do something to deserve this?"

4.  You can write a book anonymously, it's been done many times, and in the Cooper world. And if you are posting anonymously, it does not mean you plan to write a book.  Frankly, writing a book in 2020 does not hold the same weight as it did even 10 years ago.

5.  Writing a book does not automatically make you a legitimate person, just because you use your real name.  If the book is filled with garbage, all you've done is used your real name to put garbage into the system.  I'm not going to give accolades to those people.  However, overall I think most of the books out there on Cooper are pretty good.  I think Bruce's and Martin's are the two best because they don't push a suspect, and they focus on the case.  Your focus on Kenny has been really good for the case, as has Rackstraw, and Reca.

That's my two cents.

 

 

 

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Quick review of the latest FBI release, and my just-as-quick takeaways from it:

  • At least until 1980, apparently Tina Mucklow was still looking at pictures provided to her by the FBI. Who else but Mucklow would be mentioned doing such a thing, being a member of the flight crew, and living in Eugene...home of the Carmelite Nuns. Only Tina. 
  • Universal Studios' putting up a million bucks as a promotional gimmick prior to the release of The Pursuit of D.B. Cooper was a headache for the FBI, because eventually all responses to the reward ended up IN the hands of the FBI. More work, more submissions from people just interested in the reward money. All turned out to be worthless. The only one that was interesting was the guy who wrote to the FBI saying he was Cooper, and wanted a 'deal' by the prosecutor to turn himself in. 
  • Himmelsbach eats popcorn while watching The Pursuit of D.B. Cooper at a movie theater. (BELOW) Picture enhanced using Microsoft Digital Imaging. I think he sort of looks like me. ^_^
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    HimmLookalike.jpg.2e01c4db6721e6723bac5ad1b2ef6d85.jpg
    (*insert evil laugh HERE*)
  • A couple of references are made in the files to comparing certain suspects' prints to prints allegedly on file. This could mean the story is true that the FBI was able to get a few good prints from the hijacker.
  • There is one reference to a suspect that mentions he was dismissed because at 6' 2" he was too tall, and the file also mentions that the hijacker was actually 5' 10" or so.  
  • Some in the FBI, as well as Dr Leonard Palmer, were leaning toward the Washougal Washdown theory, regarding the Tina Bar money find. 
  • One thing I figured out is that if you even remotely looked like Cooper...someone was going to drop your name on the FBI sooner or later. (*laughs*) 

I have a few other observations, but it's a big file... B)

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On 2/21/2020 at 10:27 PM, RobertMBlevins said:

The upcoming documentary won't go very far with the viewing audience if at the end the audience feels cheated, as they did in D.B. Cooper - Case Closed?

That was a complete fiasco because Rackstraw (smartly) refused to speak a word to them, and also because Tina Mucklow rejected Rackstraw as the hijacker. That show went from possible boom to an absolute bust at the end. NYT reporter Billy Jensen was a part of that production, and later distanced himself from it. I was emailing him back and forth for a while after the show came out. He said two basic things:  He was frustrated because the more senior members of that production were ignoring things that Jensen thought pointed to Rackstraw's innocence. His second 'big point' was that he wanted nothing further to do with the show, or the pursuit of Rackstraw as the hijacker. I don't want to go overboard talking for Jensen, so I won't add any further to this assessment. Truth is, he never ventured anything more to me than those two points. 

(Although let's face it...if we're talking about Rackstraw, he wasn't exactly Mr. Perfect LOL. He may have even killed his own stepfather and gotten away with it.)

But he certainly wasn't DB Cooper. 

The one thing I could never figure out with Tom Colbert and his team was how they came to the idea that a guy 29 years old with blue eyes was Cooper. Geez, Louise. Nothing told them they might be on the wrong track with that? They had to be led into the Reality Hotel by Tina Mucklow. She booked them a room on the top floor, penthouse suite, and went on her way back to Springfield.

It was also supremely foolish of them to offer up a six-photo array to Mucklow where NONE of the other pictures were of a DB Cooper suspect. Only Rackstraw's mug, and five unknown people. If they had laid out ALL the main suspects and Mucklow ID's someone other than Rackstraw as the hijacker...at least they could have taken credit for it. Instead, they bet everything on Rackstraw and got burned. I was able to get a screenshot from the show to show this is what they did...it's buried on either C or D drives somewhere, maybe one of the backup flash drives, but I did post it here once at Dropzone after (guess who) Shutter challenged me on it. It's back there in pages somewhere. 

This upcoming documentary featuring EU will attempt to prove that Sheridan Peterson is Cooper. EU will probably sprinkle in a few lies about Peterson here and there to 'prove' his point. Then you have some people boonie-crashing around the Ridgefield National Wildlife Refuge looking for 'evidence' in an effort that EU probably knows himself is hopeless. When they come up with zip, all it will do is make EU look more foolish than he already is now. We're probably looking at D.B. Cooper - Case Closed: The Sequel. 

I don't mind watching another Cooper documentary, though. I just don't expect much will come of it. If Eric Ulis has Candyland dreams of a movie pointing to Sheridan as the hijacker, he can forget it. I found out long ago that any movie that accuses someone of a crime, someone who has not been formally accused...and that person's family is still living...that studios won't go near such a project, especially with a private citizen...unless they can get a signed release from either the person himself (Sheridan) or if he is no longer living...the family. And I can assure you that Sheridan Peterson's family will sign no such document. Not in this life, not even in the next. I was required to get a release from KC's family in order for THAT project to move forward. EU will never get such a release from Sheridan's family. 

Why? Because Sheridan himself, as well as his family members, are PISSED OFF at anyone and everyone who has proposed he was Cooper. They know better, and they don't like it. And they know all about EU, I can tell you that with confidence. It's even possible that the legal eagles at the production company doing the documentary will tell the director that they can't bring up Sheridan's name publicly in the show. It invites an instant lawsuit, made easy by the fact that Sheridan was already investigated by the FBI, freely gave a DNA sample, and cooperated with them fully without asking for a lawyer. If the show is dumb enough to bring up his name...they would just be asking for it. 

I know I'm wasting my time responding to this, Robert, but the only conclusion I can come to is you did not watch the History Channel Cooper broadcast.

The show did not advocate Rackstraw as D.B. Cooper.  Quite the opposite. At the end, only Tom Colbert remained as believing that.  Not only did Tom Fuentes and Billy Jepsen not believe it, the rest of Colbert's staff also bailed.

 

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Mark Bennett says in part:

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'I know I'm wasting my time responding to this, Robert, but the only conclusion I can come to is you did not watch the History Channel Cooper broadcast.

The show did not advocate Rackstraw as D.B. Cooper.  Quite the opposite. At the end, only Tom Colbert remained as believing that.  Not only did Tom Fuentes and Billy Jepsen not believe it, the rest of Colbert's staff also bailed...'

Of COURSE I watched the show. Both parts. Come on, Mark...after Colbert's team showed Mucklow that baloney six-person photo array, and she failed to pick out Rackstraw, and she saw the video of him live and talking and said he wasn't Cooper...they tried saying maybe Mucklow was getting old or having memory problems. That came right at the end of part two. 

If the other team members bailed, I can understand why. I have two emails from Billy Jensen saying he wants nothing to do with that TV show or the investigation ever again. That's understandable. You are just making my own point for me. 

Meanwhile, the REAL FBI was busy raiding the offices of the production company for something entirely different. The whole damn thing was the biggest fiasco of a TV documentary ever done on the Cooper case. Afterward, nobody wanted anything to do with Rackstraw. He lost his boat, whatever...some time after the show aired. I actually felt sorry for the poor guy...SORT OF. 

There WAS some evidence out there that Rackstraw *may* have killed his own stepfather. So maybe the whole thing was karma. 

Here is the basic truth behind the whole show:  It was nothing more than a phonied-up prelude to a book release that was done the very next day at Amazon. Colbert thought it would be a huge bestseller...and then Hollywood Here I Come. But Mucklow let him down. He made his mistake by not qualifying Mucklow FIRST as a witness prior to filming, instead of going blind and letting her make fools of them on national television. He made an even BIGGER mistake by not including known Cooper suspects in his photo array. Had Mucklow identified one of them as Cooper, (even if it wasn't Rackstraw) at least he could have taken credit for that. Dumb with a capital D. 

Bottom Line:  DB Cooper - Case Closed? is the Cooper equivalent of Geraldo Rivera's The Mystery of Al Capone's Vaults.  

Only difference is that Rivera wasn't foolish enough to set up a book release beforehand that he couldn't stop. ^_^

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Dollar to a doughnut says the upcoming documentary will NOT pursue Sheridan Petersen as the hijacker, no matter what EU wants to do. I have some experience in these matters, too. 

During the filming of the Decoded show on KC, phone calls were coming in from the legal eagles for the production company. They told the director, as well as the cast, that unless Bernie Geestman actually admitted he was involved, or admitted he had lied on certain things...neither the show or the cast was allowed to speculate he could be involved. However, they could speculate on KC all they wanted. A few months after the show first aired, both Scott Rolle and Buddy Levy emailed me and basically said they believed Geestman was not only involved, but a liar. But they couldn't say that on television. I can present those messages if you wish. I have done so before, since I got permission from both Scott and Buddy on this issue long ago. 

The logic behind that decision by the Go Go Luckey legal guys was that Geestman had never been formally charged, and accusing him of a crime could be libelous to the production company. Unlike KC, he was also still alive. The reason they could talk about KC and speculate is because Lyle Christiansen approved it if necessary. He was the executor of KC's will, and had the right to do that. 

Knowing what I do know regarding Peterson and members of his family...if I were a production company exec...I would not allow Peterson to be accused of the crime on national TV. It could invite a lawsuit by the family. They know all about EU, and they don't like him. 

And just so everyone understands my position on Peterson, I was already pretty angry when Snownman stole his copyrighted book and republished it without Sheridan's permission...and when EU hassled members of his family. I sent a Tweet to the exec producer of this show. I didn't talk bad about EU, but I did warn him to keep an eye on EU. I wouldn't call EU the Devil Incarnate, but he has been known to be less than honest sometimes. And if I hear a single peep on that show accusing Peterson of being the hijacker, I will definitely send a full report and my experiences checking out Peterson....to Sheridan Peterson's family for review. And I don't give a damn if anyone likes it or not. 

KC might not be Cooper...but Peterson certainly isn't either. His life is an open book for sure, and it doesn't include dishonesty, crime, or anything else remotely like it.

NOTE: I see over at the Cooper Forum that Georger is in denial about being 'Johnnie Greene'. But he also says Geoff Gray 'outed' me to HIM ten years ago. That was dumb. Geoff Gray and I have always got along fine, and when I asked him the truth of Georger's claim, (years ago) he said not a chance. I have actually met Geoff Gray in person up in Seattle. We double-signed each others' books, and he gave me Skyjack, I gave him Blast. I still have it. Georger is full of it. If you are going to deny something, it's probably smarter not to try to support that denial with another lie. (*laughs*) He wraps up his pathetic post by saying 'maybe Geoff and I should get a trailer.' 

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The Universal Studios late November 1981 release could play a possible link if you believe Max Gunther and his Clara story, or even if you don’t. 
 

“Cooper” contacted Max in early 1972, and quickly fell off the radar. For some reason, Max was not contacted again until early 1982, by Clara, “Cooper’s” widow. 
 

The movie could have reignited a passion in Max, an imposter (Clara), or the actual real DB Cooper. It’s a good way to draw some attention away from a suspect by saying he died in 1982. 

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47 minutes ago, Andrade1812 said:

P. 56-58 of FBI #46 describe a parachute being found right where some of us have Cooper jumping, East Fork Lewis River. Orange and White just like a C-9. FBI did not follow up on it :-/

Just upstream of Heisson bridge.

It was orange and white?? FBI dismissed it because it was partially orange..

but it was a mile from the Heisson store store break in that night and right beside the rail line..

 

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7 minutes ago, Andrade1812 said:

RH says in a another articles that Cooper would have landed at 50mph if the chute had deployed because of "wind"

 

What? (p 191) RH was just making stuff up at that point...

It says,, Himm's "speculations".

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45 minutes ago, FLYJACK said:

It was orange and white?? FBI dismissed it because it was partially orange..

but it was a mile from the Heisson store store break in that night and right beside the rail line..

 

That goes back to the problem with the parachute descriptions. No one would put a 28' canopy in an NB6. You wouldn't find a white 28' canopy in an NB8. So they were looking for the wrong parachute from the start.

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3 minutes ago, Andrade1812 said:

What was the address of that store that was broken into?

We never got the address, only a general area, I checked and the Heisson General Store existed at the time in the area. It was the main store in a rural area.

The Heisson general store was also right on the rail tracks, it is a good assumption that it was that store but not confirmed.

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pink dot is Heisson Store, green is rail tracks

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26 minutes ago, Andrade1812 said:

That goes back to the problem with the parachute descriptions. No one would put a 28' canopy in an NB6. You wouldn't find a white 28' canopy in an NB8. So they were looking for the wrong parachute from the start.

yes, that is why it is important to figure out the chute Cooper actually took,,

It wasn't either of Hayden's.. one was left on the plane and the other was returned to him. If the FBI mixed them up with Cossey's or maybe others then they may have been looking for the wrong one the entire time.

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11 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said:

And if I hear a single peep on that show accusing Peterson of being the hijacker, I will definitely send a full report and my experiences checking out Peterson....to Sheridan Peterson's family for review. And I don't give a damn if anyone likes it or not. 

This is hypocrisy at it's finest. You can have your suspect, but damn anyone else who has a suspect.

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2 hours ago, FLYJACK said:

yes, that is why it is important to figure out the chute Cooper actually took,,

It wasn't either of Hayden's.. one was left on the plane and the other was returned to him. If the FBI mixed them up with Cossey's or maybe others then they may have been looking for the wrong one the entire time.

How did they know the chute was white? It says so in the FBI docs, but it's not like they pulled the chute out of the container before they gave it to Cooper. It had to have been either Cossey or Hayden who told them. 

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1 hour ago, Andrade1812 said:

How did they know the chute was white? It says so in the FBI docs, but it's not like they pulled the chute out of the container before they gave it to Cooper. It had to have been either Cossey or Hayden who told them. 

Cossey claimed they were both white... per FBI docs.

 

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Sidebar..

I don't think "Johnnie Greene" is Georger,, I reviewed Greene's comments and he was supportive of Blevins then turned on him, he also posted Georger's real name, Georger wouldn't do that. I have narrowed Johnnie Greene down to one of two people, but it is irrelevant to the Cooper case. Georger did post using other names.

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