FLYJACK 654 #57851 September 2, 2022 (edited) FBI part 74 is up https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-74/at_download/file weird, if you click the link you get part #73 but if you copy and paste the same link into a browser you get part #74... Edited September 2, 2022 by FLYJACK 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 197 #57852 September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, FLYJACK said: FBI part 74 is up https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-74/at_download/file is coming up as part 73 not part 74 ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olemisscub 466 #57853 September 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, georger said: is coming up as part 73 not part 74 ??? https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-74/at_download/file Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57854 September 2, 2022 49 minutes ago, olemisscub said: https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-74/at_download/file Link still comes up #73,, copy and paste link to get #74 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 197 #57855 September 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, FLYJACK said: Link still comes up #73,, copy and paste link to get #74 No part 74 is showing or retrievable at the FOIA website: https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper ?b_start:int=40 Guess you get different results in Canada somehow ? Edited September 2, 2022 by georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57856 September 2, 2022 2 hours ago, georger said: No part 74 is showing or retrievable at the FOIA website: https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper ?b_start:int=40 Guess you get different results in Canada somehow ? It is up now.. https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-74/view Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 197 #57857 September 3, 2022 4 hours ago, FLYJACK said: It is up now.. https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-74/view Thanks!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olemisscub 466 #57858 September 3, 2022 Vault 74 sucked. Just nothing but 302’s of yokels writing or calling in after watching reruns of Unsolved Mysteries. Speaking of which, is Unsolved Mysteries the one where Cooper is from Alabama and Himmelsbach basically has Cooper jumping into the middle of the Yukon and crawling to a watering hole and dying? lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57859 September 3, 2022 (edited) A map of the radar track from Reno Tower was supplied to the FBI.. NORJAK crossed into Nevada from California 25 miles North and 14 miles West of Reno. That is in line with Red Bluff. Edited September 3, 2022 by FLYJACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 197 #57860 September 3, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Slim King said: Why didn't the FBI test the saliva on the cigarette butts to find the Coopers blood type? Nobody thought of it. Wasnt on the agenda. Nobody had the time. Nobody cared. Edited September 3, 2022 by georger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert99 37 #57861 September 3, 2022 8 hours ago, FLYJACK said: A map of the radar track from Reno Tower was supplied to the FBI.. NORJAK crossed into Nevada from California 25 miles North and 14 miles West of Reno. That is in line with Red Bluff. In other words, the airliner flew a straight line from the Red Bluff VORTAC in California to the Reno airport. That is completely logical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 197 #57862 September 4, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Slim King said: Or maybe D. B. Cooper was one of theirs? There might have been rules about when evidence could be submitted for Lab work. (eg case must involve a homicide). And rules about who can submit something to the Lab - (Agent must instruct Lab what is wanted, eg. finger prints, ......... for example somehow a few of the Ingram bills got finger printed by request in spite of a very low probability of success. The Lab did what it was asked to do. If nobody asks, there is no lab work. (Im not sure what the rules are today....) Labs are always overwhelmed with work ............ Edited September 4, 2022 by georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAGdb 71 #57863 September 4, 2022 6 hours ago, Slim King said: Or maybe D. B. Cooper was one of theirs? Nice to have the blood type, but the evidentiary value of it in and of itself is minimal...you can't convict on a blood type match. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57864 September 4, 2022 3 hours ago, JAGdb said: Nice to have the blood type, but the evidentiary value of it in and of itself is minimal...you can't convict on a blood type match. Somewhere around 70-80% of the pop are nonsecreters,, no blood type in saliva 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57865 September 4, 2022 Somebody put "Jack" out of his misery... The ICS matchbook had notes written on it.. that is why Cooper took it, not because it had personal meaning. (though Jack is correct Cooper did not seem too worried about fingerprints) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57866 September 4, 2022 (edited) I have had some sophisticated attempts to hack into my computer recently and it is Cooper related... heads up It isn't amateurs... coming from a commercial proxy server in Chicago... Edited September 4, 2022 by FLYJACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57867 September 4, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, Robert99 said: In other words, the airliner flew a straight line from the Red Bluff VORTAC in California to the Reno airport. That is completely logical. Nobody said a straight line.. we don't have the actual path but if Reno supplied their radar data, what about Seattle or Portland.. Maybe only 1% of the FBI files have been released... Edited September 4, 2022 by FLYJACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57868 September 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Slim King said: This supports my research theory. They seem to be "Overwhelmed with work" or someone made a mistake and threw the Butts away. And the Hair.Just finished the most recent book on D.B. Cooper. I liked it. The butts were examined by the lab and discarded within 2 weeks of the hijacking. Not a mistake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57869 September 4, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Slim King said: Then a complete coverup!!!! The most illogical thing I've ever heard. So if Carr told you they might still be in their possession would you believe him? Not a coverup, incompetence and ignorance. Of course the FBI is still looking for them.... 50+ years after they destroyed them.. Carr is not interested in minutiae... Edited September 4, 2022 by FLYJACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57870 September 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Slim King said: Carr isn't interested in solving this case whatsoever. Yes he is, he just wants to solve it himself... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57871 September 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Slim King said: No ... He admits he hasn't even read all the 302's...... He's throwing out red herrings this entire time. He's muddying the waters intentionally. because he wants to be the one who solves it.... get it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57872 September 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Slim King said: As far as doing research, I've been told there are 40 books on D.B. Cooper. Has anyone here read them all? probably more than 40, most are junk.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57873 September 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Slim King said: Have you read them all ... Which ones are junk? I intentionally did not read any until I had thoroughly researched the case. Without a high case knowledge level you can't read them critically.. I have since read some and ignored most based on obvious critical flaws. Primary Cooper research doesn't come from somebody else's opinion in a book. The better ones lay out the facts... the junk has critical facts wrong and tries to sell a suspect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #57874 September 4, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Slim King said: How did you do research without any books? How do you know which ones are junk if you didn't read them? I did primary research.. books are secondary.. In most cases, the authors have discussed their books publicly or the synopsis is published.. most books can be dismissed easily if you know the case well. Some books give you primary research, stick to those.. Though all books contain errors.. some more-so than others. Edited September 4, 2022 by FLYJACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 197 #57875 September 4, 2022 (edited) AT DBC forum Jack notably says: Let's address the "worried about fingerprints " issue: He wasn't worried about the bourbon drink glass He wasn't worried about the cigarette butts He wasn't worried about the tie He wasn't worried about the time in the bathroom He wasn't worried about his seat area He wasn't worried about the parachute pack he opened to cut the cords He wasn't worried about the railings on the aft door he probably touched on the way out. He wasn't worried about the plane ticket He wasn't worried about the $20 bill he gave the counter for the ticket He wasn't worried about the $20 bill he gave for the drink But he was worried about a single empty matchbook that the flight attendant had manhandled for who knows how long lighting him cigarettes? Cooper's actions dictate that he wasn't concerned about fingerprints rather that he has a compulsive personality towards inanimate objects that he feels personally connected to. And this personality trait would be identifiable by those who spend any amount of time around him. Jmo. *** G: signs of Cooper under stress ? And from this, the agents got no viable prints ? Edited September 4, 2022 by georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
