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Why doesn't the FBI talk to Bobby Blevins if they let Geoffrey Gray search their files and hang-out in the evidence room?

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1. Geoffrey is much cuter than Bobby.
2. Geoffrey's day job is writing for New York Magazine and Bobby's busy cleaning toilets, proving once again that it's "Who you know, Not what you know."
3. Geoffrey is more skilled at spinning the story the FBI's way.
4. Bobby's an asshole and no one can stand being in the same room with him.
5. Bobby's invitation to review the files got lost in the mail.
6. Budget cut-backs. Can only allow so many journalists in the evidence room at one time.
7. FBI is afraid that Bobby's going to find some real doo-doo and mess up everything for everybody.
8. It's a family thing. Georger can't stand Bobby, and G's relatives don't want to rile up the old man.
10. Fred Gutt wants to have Bobby up to the office, but Ayn is still hung-up on Alex Hannaford and his British accent. Alex is friends with Geoff, but Alex loves the Hamma Hamma, too. It's complicated...

Addendum:
11. Skipp already talked with the FBI, who ruled out Kenny C, which makes talking to Bobby moot.

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I have a suggestion. Why doesn't Bruce keep his mumbo jumbo on that other site he started with Shutter?

Why let him clutter up this site with that kind of Garbage.

By the way how does he know Cossey was the only one Whacked as he puts it. Why use that terminolgy unless you know he was whacked.

Generally whacked means struck with an object such as a hand or with an instrument.

Note Bruce you are the only one who uses that word regarding Cossey's death.

If I was an investigator & read your postings & your continued use of the terminology referencing the death of Cossey --- you would be a very strong suspect. Can you prove where you were at the approx time of Cossey's death?

Didn't you seemingly disappear for a few days? I noted you were not posting much during the days Cossey was lying in his garage - deceased from a fall or from a blow.

Your prior postings ranted like the whining of a child because Cossey would not talk to you & was dismissive of your request for an interview.

Clearly your postings from the time Cossey died until his body was found & his death announced, your postings were not within your usual mode....you were very quiet.
Too quiet!

You were all pumped up regarding the raves you received from the thread about your interview with the man who provided the chutes & expressed irritation regarding Cossey dismissing you.

Now you are saying he was whacked.

You were the first person to note Cossey's death in this thread.

I find your postings ODD when the subject of Cossey is broached.

I can't even view that other site unless I apologize to you & to Vickie so I have no idea how you are behaving in that location. Shutter is very aware I did not want to post there - just read.

Are you posting these same things in that other place? Probably not.

Shutter would not allow such conduct for very long.

If I was the investigator in Cossey's death & aware of your rantings in this thread about Cossey's continue rejections of you - you would be my primary suspect.

You also know I had a good relationship with Cossey - we understood each other, but evidently you took his demeanor as dismissing & derogatory.

Your problem all of your life was not being able to handle rejection.

Cossey was Cossey & he was a fire cracker. He was a good guy. He was always nice to me, but he was a busy man & in the road a lot. He liked driving with the windows or the top down - I mentioned this to him several times.

Was his car a convertible?
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Another Public Service Announcement and Quiz

Parrot Man at the Shutter site raises an interesting point about the FBI. In one of his comments he says, "The FBI are not dummies."

Hence, the question: What are the FBI? If not "dummies," then how can the FBI in the Norjak investigation be best described?

Here are your choices:



I don't like multiple choice... so I'm just going to say the FBI were/are dummies. It's obvious as can be that Weber was Cooper. Or it was KC. Or maybe the Sunshine Band. FBI just dumb.

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I don't like multiple choice... so I'm just going to say the FBI were/are dummies. It's obvious as can be that Weber was Cooper. Or it was KC. Or maybe the Sunshine Band. FBI just dumb.



Well, Buckwheat I don't appreciate that Bruce is the main reason I cannot view the other site and he is allowed to spew his garbage here on the DZ. The FBI is NOT dumb, but they have to do what they are told to do - the current level of criminal activity has not allowed them to devote much time to this old case.

If I had gone to WA the way Marla did and have had the financial backing she did - this case would be closed.

The FBI vested heavily into the case at that time - hoping they could finally get Cooper off their backs.

The project backfired & cost the division funds they needed to apply else where.

I do fault the FBI for not having paid closer attention to the details regarding Weber's background - but I am sure the funds were not there to do what I have done. Also family members & others were more open & receptive to my inquiries, but by the time I had done these thing...a lot of time passed & individual deceased & people just wanted to go on with their lives.

He is gone now! I wanted to take him home - but I won't be able to do that now....perhaps someone will do it for me. I can mark on a map places for them to place some of his remains and for the rest to be released from a plane just after they cross the river and down to just West of Battleground.

If those ashes could be made to glow and the winds approx the way they were on that night you will know what Weber showed me in 1979 was his escape route.

I am no longer able to continue with this due to my health, but I truely hope someone is able to fufill my wishes...Supposed to go into surgery but feel like there are more tests that should be run before they do that surgery....my heart feels funny & my chest hurts at times...and sometime I cannot vocalize what I am trying to say....and I continuely am looking for things I have put in the wrong place.

I try to chalk it up to stress, but I am no idiot - I know what is around the corner for me.

I have devoted the last 18 yrs of my life to this & the ten of those yrs in this thread trying to tell someone - anyone who will listen that I have not lied & that the things he told me were true. The things I found were also true and some of it was suspect.

If he wasn't Cooper - then he pulled off the biggest hoax in history and it has cost me 18 yrs of my life...but, the things I knew the FBI didn't know and couldn't find - proved to me he was Cooper....
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***New Quiz!

Why doesn't the FBI talk to Bobby Blevins if they let Geoffrey Gray search their files and hang-out in the evidence room?.



Because they dumb.

Actually, I've done the email and phone call thing with FBI agents in Seattle several times over the years. I even got to speak in-person to Bob Fuhrman for about an hour. He was the agent who assisted in interviewing the witnesses who deplaned in Seattle. Unlike some of you, he thought my point about finding at least three bundles of the Tena Bar cash in the same exact spot MILES from the flight path was significant. He also told me no one had thought of this as being important when they investigated the money find. But he did...once I pointed out that these bundles would have had to be roped together or tied with little strings so they wouldn't get separated for this to happen. Surprised?

I wouldn't mind examining the case files, of course. But I don't need to do that because I'm investigating Kenny Christiansen, and he's not in their files much. I think they are interested in the new report on Christiansen, though. I asked them in May if they had made up their minds on Kenny, and whether I should bother to send this new report. They told me to send it when ready. I tried to leave them an 'out' as it were. I figured if they had truly eliminated Christiansen, they would have said not to waste my time. But they didn't.

Agent Fred Gutt told me that some agents in the Seattle office actually believe Kenny might be a good suspect, while some other agents thought there were better suspects. Sounds normal to me. He also said the Seattle FBI has NOT eliminated Christiansen as a suspect. Their initial statement in early 2008 where they said Kenny wasn't the guy was based 95% on the New York Magazine article by Geoff Gray. And a lot of things have happened since that time. AB of Seattle wasn't even involved yet. We came along more than a year after the article came out. Then History Channel. Then later...Geestman's family.

I have mentioned these things several times before, but it's like it goes in one ear and out the other. ('Na...na...na...na...I can't HEAR you!!!')

LOL. Some folks around here are under a mistaken impression. They believe we did all this work on Kenny for them somehow. The truth is I only keep people updated publicly as a courtesy. My only concern is what the Seattle FBI thinks about the investigation into Christiansen and Geestman. The opinions of many 'known Cooperland folk' are often slanted because many of them have their own agendas and feel threatened by any possible solution to the case that didn't come from them.

It is one of those self-deluded 'Cooper Royalty' things or something. I don't believe in Cooper Royalty. I believe in finding out for sure whether Ken Christiansen was DB Cooper or not. And if he wasn't...who WAS?


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"...I wouldn't mind examining the case files, of course. But I don't need to do that because I'm investigating Kenny Christiansen..."



That's what I love about you, Bobby, consistency. You knew very little about the DB Cooper when I first interviewed you, even though you had just written a book about Norjak and titled it: "The Truth of DB Cooper."

Five years later you still revel in your ignorance and proudly claim you don't need to read the FBI's Norjak files.

Can your mother explain what happened to you to cause such a lack of curiosity? Gayla?

I'm seeing a pattern here - you're a No Show at all the DB Cooper Symposia and you have no anger at being denied access to the FBI files unlike other journalists.

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***New Quiz!

Why doesn't the FBI talk to Bobby Blevins if they let Geoffrey Gray search their files and hang-out in the evidence room?.



Because they dumb.


So, Buck Wheaties, what's your take on the FBI losing the eight cigarette butts?

Some dumb fuck threw them out in the trash?

Or, they hid them some place safer and figured it was better to be called a bunch of dumb fucks than get real in the Norjak investigation?

Maybe DB Cooper is a real hot tamale.

Whaddaya t'ink?

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"...By the way how does he know Cossey was the only one Whacked as he puts it. Why use that terminolgy unless you know he was whacked.

Generally whacked means struck with an object such as a hand or with an instrument.

Note Bruce you are the only one who uses that word regarding Cossey's death.

If I was an investigator & read your postings & your continued use of the terminology referencing the death of Cossey --- you would be a very strong suspect. Can you prove where you were at the approx time of Cossey's death?

Didn't you seemingly disappear for a few days? I noted you were not posting much during the days Cossey was lying in his garage - deceased from a fall or from a blow...."



Jo, do you really think the FBI or the KCSO would ever come after me for the Earl Cossey homicide and risk having me bring all the Norjak principals to the witness stand and giving depositions?

Do you think those guys would want me roaming through the evidence files looking for information on Earl Cossey, the tie-ins to the FBI, and searching for the true killers?

Me and 377 would have a Field Day - Plus the Press Conferences -OOOH LA, LA!

C'mon Jo, you're a smart girl. You know the feds would never leave themselves open to something like that.

I'm golden, babe....

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Public Service Announcement

There will be a thousand or so folks reading this post over the next week, and to you dear readers I would like to offer my view on who Jo Weber is and what she is trying to do here.

Jo and I are very different people and we have very different needs.

Jo controls the narrative by innuendo, teasing, and preposterous pronouncements that are too far-fetched to corroborate.

Me, I like the Show. I'm a Bring It On kind of guy, so I can tolerate her attempts at character assassination, or trying to discredit me and my writing.

Jo works the crowd and gets a lot of sympathy. Most people are uncomfortable with me putting the FBI's feet to the fire over Norjak, and tons of folks hate what I write about Tina.

Nevertheless, that's where the story goes.

Me, I'm here at the DZ because it's fun to play with Jo and Bobby, and I'm also playing to the crowd - planting ideas and questions for y'all to ponder in the quiet ethers that surround the DZ.

Jo, on the other hand, is here to construct a New World. It's the World Of Duane Weber The Skyjacker. Her postings are a lot like a little girl playing with her dolls and a big doll house - moving the furniture around, trying on new dresses, having make-believe tea parties that are actually very real.

Her purpose in doing this is certainly unknown to me, but it's all kind of fun. I guess that's why you're here, too.

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"...I wouldn't mind examining the case files, of course. But I don't need to do that because I'm investigating Kenny Christiansen..."



That's what I love about you, Bobby, consistency. You knew very little about the DB Cooper when I first interviewed you, even though you had just written a book about Norjak and titled it: "The Truth of DB Cooper."

Five years later you still revel in your ignorance and proudly claim you don't need to read the FBI's Norjak files.

Can your mother explain what happened to you to cause such a lack of curiosity? Gayla?

I'm seeing a pattern here - you're a No Show at all the DB Cooper Symposia and you have no anger at being denied access to the FBI files unlike other journalists.



That's because I don't hang out with Cooper Royalty, and I'm not actually investigating the Cooper case, per se. I am investigating whether Kenny Christiansen was Cooper. And to do that, I don't NEED to know every minute detail on the hijacking. I just need to present the evidence that he was the hijacker. So the basic facts of the case are all I'm really concerned with. Whether I learned those years before, or along the way while investigating Christiansen and Bernie Geestman for the hijacking doesn't really matter to me.

You keep bringing up Jo's accusation regarding Cossey. But we both know no one paid attention to that. No one cares about it except you. And I choose not to feed into your dumb games here at Dropzone.

As far as interviews, I've been interviewed by much better folks than you, that's for sure. By better, I mean more professional. You alienate witnesses so badly you never get a second shot with them. If you feel the interviewee didn't cooperate enough for your taste, you sometimes talk badly about them. If I followed the Bruce Smith School of Journalism, I wouldn't have discovered even half of what I know about Kenny Christiansen today.

Witnesses I interview don't 'owe' me anything. Neither does the Seattle FBI. I'm going to politely ASK them to do a cursory check on what we're presenting on Kenny Christiansen. And that's all. :)


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"...I wouldn't mind examining the case files, of course. But I don't need to do that because I'm investigating Kenny Christiansen..."



That's what I love about you, Bobby, consistency. You knew very little about the DB Cooper when I first interviewed you, even though you had just written a book about Norjak and titled it: "The Truth of DB Cooper."

Five years later you still revel in your ignorance and proudly claim you don't need to read the FBI's Norjak files.

Can your mother explain what happened to you to cause such a lack of curiosity? Gayla?

I'm seeing a pattern here - you're a No Show at all the DB Cooper Symposia and you have no anger at being denied access to the FBI files unlike other journalists.



That's because I don't hang out with Cooper Royalty, and I'm not actually investigating the Cooper case, per se. I am investigating whether Kenny Christiansen was Cooper. And to do that, I don't NEED to know every minute detail on the hijacking. I just need to present the evidence that he was the hijacker. So the basic facts of the case are all I'm really concerned with. Whether I learned those years before, or along the way while investigating Christiansen and Bernie Geestman for the hijacking doesn't really matter to me.

You keep bringing up Jo's accusation regarding Cossey. But we both know no one paid attention to that. No one cares about it except you. And I choose not to feed into your dumb games here at Dropzone.

As far as interviews, I've been interviewed by much better folks than you, that's for sure. By better, I mean more professional. You alienate witnesses so badly you never get a second shot with them. If you feel the interviewee didn't cooperate enough for your taste, you sometimes talk badly about them. If I followed the Bruce Smith School of Journalism, I wouldn't have discovered even half of what I know about Kenny Christiansen today.

Witnesses I interview don't 'owe' me anything. Neither does the Seattle FBI. I'm going to politely ASK them to do a cursory check on what we're presenting on Kenny Christiansen. And that's all. :)
Blevins, Let me repeat your remark above:

". . . I'm not actually investigating the Cooper case, per se. I am investigating whether Kenny Christiansen was Cooper."

Nevertheless, you have referred to yourself as "a leading Cooper researcher".

Are you sure you are a "researcher" in any sense of the word?

Robert99

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Jo, do you really think the FBI or the KCSO would ever come after me for the Earl Cossey homicide and risk having me bring all the Norjak principals to the witness stand and giving depositions?




Your cockey personality and self absorbed attacks have gotten you in trouble before....I know all about them & they have nothing to do with Cooper.

You have a record for being obtuse, insulting & intruding on the privacy of others....you made yourself a suspect! l

You have never explained your actions before Cossey's death & during the time you were so quiet until it was announced Cossey had been found deceased in his garage by his daughter.

You have used the death of a wonder person (he had his faults) to make a name for yourself & to put yourself beyond reproach...but sometime the best laid plans backfire.

Profiling:

The FBI is able to go back into your history & to note your postings after you interviewed the other guy. Then your agitation with Cossey not giving you an interview.

You were the first to announce his death on this thread & therefore you were waiting to see how long it would be.

You were quiet like a church mouse for several days after Cossey deceased, yet days before ranted and raved because he would not give you an interview.

Note I personally have seen your face when someone draws the line and refuses to discuss certain topics....the agitation and anger show in your face.

You usually were not absent from the thread - but you were for a few days just after Cossey had died and until you made the 1st announcement.

You were WAITING for his body to be found & your own actions (before and afterward) make you a suspect!

Then there is the issue of the large vehicle that cruised my house every night for several days between 1am & 2am after Cossey's death. I felt that was Jo being paranoid so I didn't make a big deal out of it.

Where were you at that time?
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'Blevins, Let me repeat your remark above:

". . . I'm not actually investigating the Cooper case, per se. I am investigating whether Kenny Christiansen was Cooper."

Nevertheless, you have referred to yourself as "a leading Cooper researcher".

Are you sure you are a "researcher" in any sense of the word?

Robert99'



Where the heck did you hear THAT from? A 'leading Cooper researcher'? Me? I don't think so, nor do I recall ever saying something like that.

That's about the fifth or sixth time you have said that now. And speaking of research, I haven't seen anything Cooper-related from you at Dropzone for months now.

I guess I should set you straight, not to be insulting or anything, but just for the record.

I'm just a simple farm kid from Sumner, Washington. I was born in California, raised in places like San Francisco, Manila, Midway, Guam, and believe it or not...Kwajalein Atoll. My mother got around when I was a kid, I suppose. B|

Later, I ended up on the farm and raised veggies for the stand we did each year, which is what I was doing when Cooper pulled his little stunt. Today I run a modest publishing company, US trade/wholesale, and edit books for other authors on weekends. And an upscale housecleaning biz for mostly high-end customers. When I can get a break from all that, I go camping, hiking, fishing, and target shooting. That's pretty much what I'm about. Cooper is secondary for sure.

I guess you could say I've done research for articles or books sometimes, but I wouldn't call myself a researcher because that mostly applies to academics or the scientific community. I am investigating the possibility of Ken Christiansen being Cooper, but that doesn't make me an 'investigator' either. I sort of fell into the Cooper thing by accident, after I saw Christiansen was living in my home town at the time of the hijacking. This naturally generated some interest on my part. At first, I didn't think there was much to all of that about him. But that was until some people started providing certain testimony, and after Bernie Geestman started lying to me and others. Even after all that has happened, the question on Kenny still remains undecided. Was he Cooper, or is it all a bunch of coincidences?

Hell, I don't know. I'm just the guy who got roped into the job of finding out. If I had it to do over again, I would never have contacted Porteous. Too much money spent, too much free time used up when I could be out in the mountains popping off my SKS or fishing. Took me a year to pay off the expenses I ran up checking out Christiansen, and then I was dumb enough to refuse all that money History Channel and Comcast Sports offered for the two TV shows. Back then, I had this idea that by doing that, it would show people some credibility. But nobody really cared that I took the money or not. Am I dumb or what? B|

The only big surprise I found out in the last five years about the Cooper Scene in general is that people can be very ugly, very hateful, and extremely vindictive. Cooper Royalty DOES exist, but it is more like the court of Richard III or something. :)
EDIT: Bruce Smith and I do agree on a couple of things. I agree with him that Jo should stop hinting...saying...inferring...whatever...that Bruce had something to do with what happened to Earl Cossey. That is ridiculous. Smith might be this or that, but I've met him personally and I can vouch for the fact that he isn't a killer. So that stuff should STOP and I mean STOP NOW.

(I expect Georger will copy over this post for the alternate site run by Shutter, and then do his usual ugly trashing. He does this with my posts regularly. My sympathies to you guys over there who are forced to wade through his rants. The only thing I wonder is how he got my unlisted phone number, and why he tried to call me at midnight on a weekday. Brother, that is OCD obsession all the way. ;) ) And before you call me a liar about that incident, you could message me and request the snapshot I took of the Caller ID showing his full name, phone number with area code and the time and date he called. Happy to provide. Just lucky for him Gayla didn't pick up the phone. She would have ripped his head off for calling that late. She has a policy about any AB or cleaning customers calling after 7PM. If he really feels the need to talk to me, he should call and leave a message. Then I will judge the content of his message and decide whether I want to talk to him or not. And Georger...don't call after 7PM Pacific. :)


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"...You were the first to announce his death on this thread..."




Yay ME!



Yes. Yay you. Damn. I've been called every name in the book, and been the victim of low shots aplenty. But no one ever called me a killer, or even a suspect in one.

No worries. No one believes that stuff. Actually, you did a good job reporting on Cossey, etc. Recently, the King County Sheriffs' Office told me that there are public records now available on request about the Cossey case. If you want to take it further, you could do a request and then use the information to prepare a set of questions for the media officer regarding any progress on the case. Seems like it is going nowhere. I don't think they are any closer to solving Cossey's murder than they were a year and a half ago. I especially like the part where they put up a reward and asked for help from the public...without actually providing any information for the public to go on. KOMO TV News in Seattle ran a short bit last summer saying the Justice Department (Seattle) had criticized KCSO for their lack of progress solving Major Cases in general. No surprise there. :S


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Does anyone know the current health and status of Earl J Cossey?

I have received an unsubstantiated email tonight in the wee hours that claims that Coss is dead under mysterious circumstances. The source is generally reliable, meaning they don't ever visit the DZ. ( smile).

I have Googled the heck out of Cossey in the past few minutes but nothing has shown up.

Anybody know anything?



:|
The above post is the first any of us knew of Cossey's probable death.

Bruce had been absent from the thread making only occassional posts because he was busy harassing Tina, her brother-in-law, her family on the East Coast - but, suddenly he goes very quiet...

1. post dated Mar 29 regarding Heady
2. post dated April 3
3. post dated April 26 - regard Burnworth.
4. Post dated April 28 regarding Cossey!

Why was Bruce so silent for so long - from April 3 until April 26, 2013. Not normal for him to go that long without posting. Do not remember him being in N.Y. at that time.

Was he feeling his way around?

Several pages prior to those posting he was pissed Cossey would NOT talk to him. Bruce was determined to do an interview w/him that was as acceptable as the article he did on the guy who provided the Back Pacs.

Did he just show up on Cossey's doorstep the way he did the Sister & Brother-in-law and her family on the East Coast & at Tina's home? Forgot the dates he made those interviews.

Bruce expressed displeasure about Cossey refusing to talk to him. I am about the size Cossey was & Bruce is a VERY large intimidating persistent personaliity.

He goes to limitations I consider
unacceptable. His size alone is intimitating to those of a smaller stature.

I am a woman - I just extended my hand out Palm toward his face & stated - "We are NOT going there". I forgot the subject I had forbidden him to ask me about.

The hand out front used to be the way one of my teachers silence misbehavior in the classroom.

Cossey would have acted very differently & have been pissed if someone got in his face - after having refused an interview.

Having been a teacher Cossey would have shown some restraint unless the individual would not take no for an answer. To have gotten that close - Cossey would have to have been at least familiar with the person in some way. Perhaps a former student.

Certain items being mailed to his home showed or proved to me the person probably knew him or at least showed some remorse after the fact.
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Bruce Smith and I do agree on a couple of things. I agree with him that Jo should stop hinting...saying...inferring...whatever...that Bruce had something to do with what happened to Earl Cossey.



:o
I am not accusing anyone of anything....just laying out the facts. Remember I have been called a liar & fantasy story teller & I have taken a lot of abuse from a guy named Bruce!

Remember all of the horrible twisted untruths he writes about?

Did you FORGET?

:PAn investigator looks at all of the angles & it is odd that this case is still unsolved.

After the fact (Cossey's death) Bruce was johnnie on the spot. NOW, Bruce was broke - were did he obtain the funds to be there everyday? Logical question.

Yes, Bruce's own statements & the common knowledge of his past history interviewing individuals does make him suspect....just like anyone else who has had words with Cossey or conducted agressive & unwelcomed interviews with any individual connected to the case.

Bruce was OBCESSED with getting that interview...because you guys gave him such good reviews on the other interview.

SO EASY for you & others to forget about how he TREATED TINA & her family on both coasts. Each time showing up without an invitation....just pops up on their door step.

Interviews require ETHICS! Bruce has No respect for the victims & he doesn't care who he hurts.

YES - I am doing a little of the Pot Calling the Kettle Black or however
that old expression goes! A taste of what he dishes out to the REAL victims of Cooper!

He NEEDS to be put in the position he puts others - his writings about the VICTIMS - the crew and others affected by the skyjacking are NOT KIND and he shows NO SYMPATHY for these victims....it is all about how his opinion is PROJECTED!

Did you forgot his writings about Tina and others? Even you would never have wrote about Tina & others in such a discusting manner. What he wrote about Tina I considered Vulgar & Lustful not to mention the disrespect he show for all that she has endured over the last 43 yrs.

NO one can excuse Bruce's past behavior - such agression and anger makes him a suspect.

If the FBI or the authorities did NOT investigate all of the suspects they would not be doing their job...Perhaps an example of how they investigated Cooper.

If Cossey knew something & was going to talk! The expression you guys like to use - someone had him Wacked.

Bruce has never tiptoes around the horrible things he has said about others - so why should I tiptoe around his feelings...Bruce has NO respect for the truth or for the problems Cooper has presented for the real VICTIMS!

Just giving him a little TASTE of what he has dished out for yrs.
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Fine. Whatever...but do you think we could stop hinting/saying/accusing/insinuating...that Bruce Smith somehow had something to do with what happened to Earl Cossey?

It's untrue and downright ridiculous. I've had my differences with Bruce, but he had nothing to do with that.

Let's move on, please.

From AB's 'Told Ya So' Department: Seen today at the alternate site run by Shutter:

Georger: This transparent dolt, Blevins, now sayz yada-yada-yada:

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(I expect Georger will copy over this post for the alternate site run by Shutter, and then do his usual ugly trashing. He does this with my posts regularly. My sympathies to you guys over there who are forced to wade through his rants. The only thing I wonder is how he got my unlisted phone number, and why he tried to call me at midnight on a weekday. Brother, that is OCD obsession all the way. ;) ) And before you call me a liar about that incident, you could message me and request the snapshot I took of the Caller ID showing his full name, phone number with area code and the time and date he called. Happy to provide. Just lucky for him Gayla didn't pick up the phone. She would have ripped his head off for calling that late.

She has a policy about any AB or cleaning customers calling after 7PM. If he really feels the need to talk to me, he should call and leave a message. Then I will judge the content of his message and decide whether I want to talk to him or not. And Georger...don't call after 7PM Pacific.


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Georger, AKA Jeremiah Warner: Fact is, Mr. Blevins, you phone number was listed right on your AB website until you took it down! That's how I got it! No master sleuthing involved. Any idiot (like you!) could have found it, and did. You were trashing me on Dropzone so I decided it was time to call you "on the spot" in real time in the middle of your little act, as you were posting your trash to Dropzone .... and you answered! Funny. You have since revised your websites and taken down all artifacts of phone numbers and obvious contact information. This is bullshit.

You are so obsessive about advertising yourself and Adventure Books of Seattle, which is actually in an apartment in Aurburn WA (no A.B. Books offices at all!)... that you still have pdf's etc active on the we where you phone number and address are still listed by you for the public to use, in addition to your ad for "my famous Newsvine column" ... blah blah blah.

That is how I contacted you, you transparent whining shape-shifting dolt!

You can't have it both ways Blevins. You put your crap out on the web promoting yourself and your greatness for people to see = Here's just one place where you are still advertising yourself and your phone number! (Provides link to a phone number)



Hmm. Whatever. We do actually HAVE an office, by the way. And an email link at the website. As I said, if you want to call, do it before 7PM Pacific please, instead of midnight on weekdays. We would appreciate it. :S

Geez Louise. Thank God he is someone else's problem now, and not Dropzone's. :S


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Fine. Whatever...but do you think we could stop insinuating...that Bruce Smith somehow had something to do with what happened to Earl Cossey?

It's untrue and downright ridiculous. I've had my differences with Bruce, but he had nothing to do with that.



I am not insinuating or accusing - just laying the facts out. Do you know how many times he has tried to discredit me & he demeans me with every post he makes & he demeans others whose lives have been altered by Cooper.

I thought you were a decent sort of guy - Kenny was not Cooper, but I have not demeaned your attemps to prove it. I even noted you did CLAIM that you never read back to the beginning of this thread to learn what it was all about. You came here to promote your book and the thread basically had to rewrite the facts for you.

You came hear to promote your book and then realized you need to rewrite it.

Bruce needs to learn how to treat victims. He has abused every victim of Cooper with his demeaning remarks...he only writes for sensationalism...he is writing about REAL people and a subject that has forever alter lives including mine.

None of us need to be demeaned post after post. They (the victims)are not here to defend themselves. I do what I can hoping he (Bruce) sees himself for what he is or has become.

Bruce's treatment of those whose live have forever been altered by Cooper is cruel and uncalled for.

He didn't interview them - he imposed himself on them.

Remember I spent several yrs talking to Mr. H before I ever posted one word anywhere. Mr. Himmelsbach was the one who brought Duane to the attention of the FBI.

Had it not have been for him I would never have been able to push forward. My pushing forward has gotten my life threatened more than one time....but, I have only discussed a couple of those incidents....not all of them.

As my health has declined I have stopped digging and simply rely on what I have known from the past and my memory is starting to slip away....after 17 yrs of this battle.
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