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EDIT: I don't believe Jerrie Mock was actually part of the Merc 13 program. You might be confusing her for Jerrie COBB. This is the current list according to Wiki:

Myrtle Cagle
Jerrie Cobb
Janet Dietrich
Marion Dietrich
Wally Funk
Sarah Gorelick (later Ratley)
Janey Hart (née Briggs)
Jean Hixson
Rhea Hurrle (later Allison, then Woltman)
Gene Nora Stumbough (later Jessen)
Irene Leverton
Jerri Sloan (née Hamilton, later Truhill)
Bernice Steadman (née Trimble).



Blevins, I think you are right about the names. Jerrie Cobb was probably the maiden name of Jerrie Mock. The surname of the grandchild that announced her death was not Mock.

I'll see if I can correct my reply to Jo Weber's original post about Jerrie Mock.

Robert99

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Why this was on the OBITUARY page in Pensacola Fl I do not know.

Jerrie Mock was her name at the time of her death. Her grandson was Chris Flocken. She is labeled as a HISTORIC AVIATOR. She died in Quincy, Fl.

AS USUAL, Robt 99 you are the first to speak and you were wrong.
The obituary mentions nothing about a space program or testing for such.

There is a picture taken April 16, 1964 as she departed from the Oakland Airport in CA.

Duane had family connections in Oakland! Probably just a co-incidence and Duane told me back in the 80's when she was featured in another article that he knew her.

It meant zero then and it means zero now - just a fact of life, but watch you Robt99 try to make something out of it.

Article about Jerrie Mock:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/jerrie-mock-first-female-pilot-to-fly-solo-around-the-world-dies-at-88/2014/10/01/2b33543a-4984-11e4-a046-120a8a855cca_story.html

and her obituary:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/newarkadvocate/obituary.aspx?n=geraldine-lois-mock-jerrie&pid=172670763

I hope this stops the confusion.
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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It helps, but you should also Goggle "Jerrie Mock" and "Jerrie Cobb" who, as it turns out, are two completely different women.

They are about the same age and both were accomplished pilots. It was Jerrie Cobb (her maiden name) who participated in the NASA testing for females.

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Jo Weber writes:

Why this [Jerrie Mock's obituary] was on the OBITUARY page in Pensacola Fl I do not know.

Jerrie Mock was her name at the time of her death. Her grandson was Chris Flocken. She is labeled as a HISTORIC AVIATOR. She died in Quincy, Fl.

R99 replies:

Probably because of her reputation and the fact that she died in Quincy, FL which is about 160 miles east on I-10 from Pace, FL.

Jo writes:

AS USUAL, Robt 99 you are the first to speak and you were wrong. The obituary mentions nothing about a space program or testing for such.

R99 replies:

Jerrie Cobb was the lady who underwent the NASA testing.

Jo writes:

There is a picture taken April 16, 1964 as she departed from the Oakland Airport in CA.

Duane had family connections in Oakland! Probably just a co-incidence and Duane told me back in the 80's when she was featured in another article that he knew her.

It meant zero then and it means zero now - just a fact of life, but watch you Robt99 try to make something out of it.

R99 replies:

Jerrie Mock taking off from Oakland (as did Amelia Earhart) does not mean that she ever heard of Duane Weber or any member of his family. Duane's claim, if he ever actually made it, is just hot air.

By bringing up the name of Jerrie Mock in the first place and then trying to add her name to all the people that Duane supposedly knew, and organizations that he was supposedly connected to, means that Jo Weber is trying to promote her own claims and fairy tales.

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Well, I'm happy we got that settled with the two women aviators. :)
In the interest of honesty around here, (and you KNOW I care about that a lot from my occasional 'calling out' on certain folks) I have received a message from Lyle Christiansen.

Apparently he is sending me his DNA swabs that were taken by the local sheriff. But unless this package contains the actual printed DNA profiles, I'm not even going to open the package because frankly...I don't know what the hell I should do with them.

I asked Lyle to get his DNA run and send me the results, which are to be included in an updated report on Kenny Christiansen. The FBI has said they can compare a full DNA profile on a particular suspect and although they cannot absolutely match DNA to the tie sample, they can ELIMINATE someone using what they have and comparing it to a full profile. So I figured this would give them a shot to eliminate Kenny, and should be included in any report sent to them about him.

Now when Lyle emailed me this message, I sent one back to him asking him to NOT send me the actual swabs, or samples, or whatever...because I am not a DNA analysis guy, and that these swabs or samples should not even be handled by me, but by someone more official. I will check messages today to see if he understands what the deal here is.

Besides, I don't mean to be cheap about it, but I'd rather not pay for all this anyway. ;)

Attached: Screenshot of our recent communications on all this.

Well, after checking messages this morning I see it's already in the mail. I guess I will end up paying, although I think this needs to be done locally, i.e. I have to be able to do a walk-in and not open his package first. It's the only thing I can think of. I will still suggest to Lyle he go ahead and try to find someone locally to Morris, MN that will run his profile for him, rather than me doing all this for him.

Edit: A quick Google search turns up this company, which does a lot of DNA profiles, and is pretty close to my office. (LOL knew I would get stuck with the bill...)

ARCpoint Labs of Seattle West



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Well, I'm happy we got that settled with the two women aviators. :)
In the interest of honesty around here, (and you KNOW I care about that a lot from my occasional 'calling out' on certain folks) I have received a message from Lyle Christiansen.

Apparently he is sending me his DNA swabs that were taken by the local sheriff. But unless this package contains the actual printed DNA profiles, I'm not even going to open the package because frankly...I don't know what the hell I should do with them.

I asked Lyle to get his DNA run and send me the results, which are to be included in an updated report on Kenny Christiansen. The FBI has said they can compare a full DNA profile on a particular suspect and although they cannot absolutely match DNA to the tie sample, they can ELIMINATE someone using what they have and comparing it to a full profile. So I figured this would give them a shot to eliminate Kenny, and should be included in any report sent to them about him.

Now when Lyle emailed me this message, I sent one back to him asking him to NOT send me the actual swabs, or samples, or whatever...because I am not a DNA analysis guy, and that these swabs or samples should not even be handled by me, but by someone more official. I will check messages today to see if he understands what the deal here is.

Besides, I don't mean to be cheap about it, but I'd rather not pay for all this anyway. ;)

Attached: Screenshot of our recent communications on all this.

Well, after checking messages this morning I see it's already in the mail. I guess I will end up paying, although I think this needs to be done locally, i.e. I have to be able to do a walk-in and not open his package first. It's the only thing I can think of. I will still suggest to Lyle he go ahead and try to find someone locally to Morris, MN that will run his profile for him, rather than me doing all this for him.

Edit: A quick Google search turns up this company, which does a lot of DNA profiles, and is pretty close to my office. (LOL knew I would get stuck with the bill...)

ARCpoint Labs of Seattle West



Blevins, You need to keep in mind that the DNA tests the FBI needs done are much more comprehensive than the DNA tests in such things as genealogical testing.

You, or the lab that does the testing for you, needs to discuss the SPECIFIC type of tests the FBI wants and then do them.

And it won't be cheap.

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Attached: Screenshot of the email I just sent Lyle. I plan to contact ArcPoint Labs in the coming week and see what all this costs. This is ArcPoint's website.

One good thing...they use the word 'affordable' on the website. We can but hope so. :)
I figure if Lyle really wants to know the truth on Kenny, he would be willing to pay for the profile. I know he can afford it, and frankly...this should have been done long ago anyway.

EDIT: Send an inquiry message to ArcPoint. Pretty much gave them all the details, etc. including what the FBI has said previously about THEIR sample/partial profile from the tie. Then I asked if it would work (using sample from Lyle, since KC is dead) ...and how much would it cost.



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Jo,

Your claims that the twenty with Dan Cooper inscribed would not be credible therefore you concealed it rings hollow. It's no less credible and no less scorn-worthy than Duane's death bed confession, his possession of parachute hardware, his NORJACK airline ticket, his PDX parking stub, his alleged contacts or involvement with Lee Harvey Oswsald, David Ferrie, James Earl Ray, JFK, RFK, MLK etc.

Since the inscribed bill would tend to corroborate his deathbed words "I'm Dan Cooper" it is very puzzling that you'd conceal it for years.

377



All of the above are true - and I thought if I told them about the 20 others would ONLY be MORE septical of the rest of the story, plus I felt like a stupid fool about myself for not connecting what he said in the hospital to what I found in the Bank (a spitting image of our beloved poodle who was named Symba).

Dan Cooper didn't mean anything to me when Duane made his unusual statement.

Later when I found the 20 with the inscription inside of the BANK - I was moving on with my life & it was a curiosity, but I had pushed the things he told me in the hospital out of my mind. Remember I didn't know Dan Cooper was D.B.Cooper at that time.

After I accidently learned who Dan Cooper was the bill had long since been gone and telling anyone about it my opinion would only have fired more of the negative responses I have had to deal with.

I was afraid of the very ridicule I have experienced since I went public.

Remember I was the kid in school who was the last one chosen for the soft ball teams - I couldn't hit the ball - I always stuck out. Yet, I was in the upper 10 percent intellectually.

I hate card games - and games or any kind - period....strategy is NOT part of my intellect. I have kept many secrets about my life - things NO ONE knows. NO ONE needs to know about them and to tell would only harm others so I carry many many secret regarding my life as a girl and a young woman.

I evade things, but I do NOT ever lie about things....some of my theories and exploration regarding Cooper damaged what others thought of me.

Even my personal life has been attacked - by individuals like Cook as he was the worse. Bruce is another example. My life has been relatively public for several yrs....and if the FBI had provided the Polygraph test - I would have told them about the finding in the bank.

IF the FBI had sat down with me and have looked me in the eyes - I would have told them ALL I knew, but they chose NOT to interview me outside of that first and only interview by an agent who had to look up Cooper to conduct his interview in 1997 and then their letter in 1998.

Why would I give this thread and others more fodder to make fun of me? Do you think I enjoy others picking every word I say, utter or write apart?

Mostly I felt foolish for not connecting what Duane said in the hospital to what was written on that 20 inside of Symba. BUT, DAN COOPER meant absolutely nothing to me...and I was in the process of moving on with my life - and was letting go of the past at that time.

It would be months later when I learned that Dan Cooper was D.B.Cooper.

SO yes, I didn't want to be made fun of....so I kept it to myself other than a couple of friends and one family member...in my opinion I felt telling about the 20 would be detrimental and not helpful.

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Jo,

I don't think you are a liar. Never have. I accept your explanation. You just mess things up by withholding info. It sure doesn't help your cause. Sigh.

377
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Jo,

I don't think you are a liar. Never have. I accept your explanation. You just mess things up by withholding info. It sure doesn't help your cause. Sigh.

377



Well, as far as Kenny C goes, if I can figure out what to do with Lyle's DNA sample...and if the Seattle FBI is correct in saying they can eliminate someone based on their sample...I will go with that and take my chances.

Frankly, I'm getting tired of dinking around with this KC stuff. Either he was or he wasn't. Just want to know. Sure, I would be disappointed if he isn't the guy, but on the other hand I knew all along chances of proving the case on KC were small. Could be just a bunch of coincidences, who knows?

Like Karen Allen said in Raiders of the Lost Ark:

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'I can be reasonable...' B|



But if this testing stuff runs into a lot of money, it's going to have to be Lyle paying for it. I've spent enough of my own (Well, AB's) money chasing KC around. If you saw my screenshot back there it listed our total expenses (to date) around $13,000. Gayla says that's reasonably accurate. Database access fees, excessive cell usage, motels, gasoline, restaurant stops, supplies, you name it. Some of that is also from returning the half-down fees on several authors' books I was going to edit privately but had to suspend during the more active parts of the investigation. (2009-10)

Enough. I made more money on my last two book edits this year than I ever have on D.B. Frickin' Cooper. :S

EDIT: The main reason I put a hold on wrapping up the screenplay is because if it can't end with KC being the guy, then I don't want it produced with a 'maybe' at the end. I'm not looking for money or sensationalism, only the truth. And besides...if it turns out KC was Cooper, I won't even have to finish the damn thing. Film production companies will seek us out for the rights to the story anyway, and hire their own writers. I just hope that the FBI is pretty solid on their statements regarding the tie sample, and that they are *nearly* certain it came from the hijacker. I don't mind being proven wrong, I just don't want that done with crappy evidence that was no good in the first place. I would like to speak with the Seattle FBI one last time regarding this tie sample before I ask Lyle to 'cough up' what might be a hefty chunk of change.


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Tomorrow is Sunday. Oh, goody. This is the day I set aside to wander from computer to computer and see what is being said at the alternate website on Cooper.

As most of you know, they even blocked our office computers from viewing their website.

This is because we caught Galen Cook ('DB Cooper Investigator Extraordinarire') in a string of lies concerning alleged emails between himself and my co-author Skipp Porteous.

You know how it is. Pull folks' covers on something and they block you out and run for the hills. ;)

When people do this, ask yourself what exactly they have to hide.

Really...I just HATE it that I have to drive to Greg's house just to see what new lies and BS are being posted. :)
You guys are nothing but funny. I had to say that.



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"As most of you know, they even blocked our office computers from viewing their website.

This is because we caught Galen Cook ('DB Cooper Investigator Extraordinarire') in a string of lies concerning alleged emails between himself and my co-author Skipp Porteous."

Stop lying about this Robert! you know exactly why you were banned from that site!

1) You signed up under a false name.
2) You used a proxy site illegally to view the site after the ban.
3) Cook had nothing to do with the ban. nothing had been said about you before your permanent removal.

Since nobody monitors this thread it allows you to constantly respond with childish drama that has nothing to do with Cooper, or this thread. it's sad that you have to nothing better to do than continue to play this game. it's pretty obvious that you haven't been to the site in weeks. why, because you failed to notice Cook asked to be removed. both of you need to grow up and learn to move on!

Since you have trouble with the banning let me explain something. a ban is a form of punishment, it ranges in different levels. you graduated to the highest level simply because of your personality which is vindictive, spiteful, and argumentative along with extreme over exaggerations all rolled into one!

For the record! nobody is being sent here as a shill. people have been confronting you since you signed up on this site. also I wouldn't be to proud of the name Robert Blevins being used on that forum. we are questioning your story because you censored it here! it also brings up the very same question you asked!

"When people do this, ask yourself what exactly they have to hide."

377 said it to Jo, I'll just change it and put your name in place of Jo's.

"Your selective disclosure does you a HUGE disservice. We NEVER EVER get the whole story from" Robert Blevins!

The whole KC story has been done by you, and only you. no other speakers coming forward. red flag mania!

Enjoy the viewing (laughs)
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Meh. I don't think we will bother with it today. Besides, I have to do Driving Miss Daisy today out in Burien.

Of course, you just PROVED my point. You were able to see the posting I made about your site, weren't you? And you were able to voice how unfair that post was. See...I knew that would happen.

Your actions are the main reason I'm not releasing any new information on Christiansen, because of the one-way street thing you have going. Your site can't be trusted, and I don't have the time to keep chasing around the lies and insults that would undoubtably be posted over there if I released such information.

You're the type who believes he deserves consideration - even if he doesn't. ;)



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Later, instigator.......

You are on the permanent no fly zone B|

ADDED: stop trying to blame others for your actions. you were the cause of the ban. no body else!

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Meh. I don't think we will bother with it today. Besides, I have to do Driving Miss Daisy today out in Burien.

Of course, you just PROVED my point. You were able to see the posting I made about your site, weren't you? And you were able to voice how unfair that post was. See...I knew that would happen.

Your actions are the main reason I'm not releasing any new information on Christiansen, because of the one-way street thing you have going. Your site can't be trusted, and I don't have the time to keep chasing around the lies and insults that would undoubtably be posted over there if I released such information.

You're the type who believes he deserves consideration - even if he doesn't. ;)



Blevins, Your claim that Shutter's site "can't be trusted" is laughable. Presumably, you mean that it can't be trusted to give you a free pass on your KC nonsense and your other self-promoting actions.

And your most recent posts here on DZ indicate that you are closing down your whole KC operation. Actually, that is probably a sensible thing to do since you haven't been able to come up with anything to support the claims about KC that you have been making for the last four years.

Jo Weber has the same problem with Duane, but she just invents new claims in an effort to keep the "Duane was Cooper" myth alive.

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Today is Sunday - now! :)
I address things in the other thread, but chose in the beginning to NOT post of my own accord. If I have something to say - I say it here. Past postings have been emotionally damaging & slanderous toward me and now seems to be undercontrol.

My not posting there was MY CHOICE. That way they can actually stay on topic without my having to defend my position & distracting from the purpose. Personal rebuttals take up space & distract.

I have neither the energy nor the time to address 2 threads.

Delighted to see how the thread is being conducted. There are lots of interesting things on the thread found NO WHERE else. Bashing is a NO ZONE.

The categories are a little confusing - but, they can do their research without the rebuttals of individuals with a personal interest or suspect. This allows them to study the evidence, some of which is inaccurate.

A lot of inconsistencies with the Files and evidence are presented. ThingsNOT supported by the evidence, the investigation and witnesses I have personally spoke to over the last 16 yrs.

The moderation there regarding inflammatory remarks regarding Jo have been excellent.

JO did NOT ask for the assignment thrust upon her by a confession she did not grasp in 1996. Jo tells no lies & tries to keep her postings factual. One COURT room is all that is required....thank you!

I have actual accountings from the crew that contradict the route proposed by Robt99. Makes one wonder if he is not another Georger & what his purpose is regarding all of this....

:ph34r::DMaybe Robt99 & Georger are part of the cover-up! :ph34r::D:):|The ones left behind! Might as well have some fun.

Georger is just Georger no matter where he is. Georger is a strange likeable character, but you never know where he is coming from & he loves to agitate. Georger is full of surprises - but, that man CANNOT discount my story & he knows why. Little things I have told over the yrs he never makes a reply to.

I am always sutle on the little "things" with Georger, but enough that he knows what I refer to. NOT one time does he addressed those little things. He just redirects the posting I made.

Makes a GAL wonder!

Georger knows I know & maybe one day someone will analyze his exchanges - & wonder WHY he goes into reverse & find the trigger.

One Trigger:

The CAMPER - He SCAMPERS to redirect and/or ignore when I mention this. Duane told me about a trip with the guys & a side trip they took. I knew about Georger before he knew about me, but it took a while for me to put it together.

WHY is it such a secret? A place Duane told me about & the man they met & the location.

Since George at the time was supposedly unknown to Cooper - what was the reason for Duane telling me something so personally to specific to this one poster called Georger?

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Jo tells no lies and tries to keep her postings factual.

I have actual accountings from the crew that contradict the route proposed by Robt99. Makes one wonder if he is not another Georger and what their purpose is regarding all of this....

Maybe Robt99 & Georger are part of the cover-up! The ones left behind!



Jo, Dream on.

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Jo Weber has the same problem with Duane, but she just invents new claims in an effort to keep the "Duane was Cooper" myth alive.

Robert99



DUHHhh!

You Robert99 invented a NEW route.
A route NOT susported by the crew, witnesses who claimed sitings of the plane, Himmelsbach, the co-pilot, the pilot or the engineer. Are you Robt99 calling Himmelsbach a liar. Are you calling the guy at the controls on one of the chase plane (not the fast ones a slower one) a liar...yea, I was actually able to talk to a pilot of one of these planes yrs ago.

To much pain today to continue with this.
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Jo tells no lies and tries to keep her postings factual.

I have actual accountings from the crew that contradict the route proposed by Robt99. Makes one wonder if he is not another Georger and what their purpose is regarding all of this....

Maybe Robt99 & Georger are part of the cover-up! The ones left behind!



Jo, Dream on.

Robert99

So what is your REAL name and WHAT is your REAL interest in this? To spend so much time - you must have SOMETHING to gain!

Have to go - very very sick right now, but you Robt99 DREAM ON. Besides you interpertation of the minutes of the flight or what ever they are called you need to START proving you case and NOT just generalities that are quickly dismissed by the principals.

Regardless of where the plane was I know there was zig to the South East and that is when they thought Coop jumped....remember this the co-pilot was a jumper and he was trying to aide Cooper off that aft way.

That flight came over Silver Lake - do you know who now lives at Silver Lake?
Not important - but is this when the plaque departed from the plane..

What was Cooper doing at that time...the stairs was down - right or was he still having difficulties?

You know where the Kalama river is?

You know where the little town of kalama is?

You know where Ariel is and the Merwin Dam is but the most powerful light along the river - where as it or can you NOT answer that one?

Almost a perfect Triangle between Kalama and Heisson and Swift Dam.

You guys think about that one for a while - for like the rest of your lives. When you figure it out - let me know.
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Why did the National Guard Search Camp set-up just above Ariel?

Move the indicator up to Pomeroy History Farms (a connection from Duane's past).

Swift Dam - he knew the man on Duty that night.

Heisson there there used to a tower just East of there - near the highway.

The Chelatchie Mill is on the line also and when the worker got to work they contacted the FBI - it was obvious something was not right and the same with the Heisson store. Amboy is in the lower part of this SHIT and so is the Cedar Creek Grist Mill.

There was a cemetary near the Grist Mill. The VOR was just West of Meadow Glade. Paradise park is in the triangle.

Why was Duane so fascinated with the Triangle? The ring shaped like a triangle. What if any attributes did the VOR play in Cooper finding his jump site?

I keep telling you guys there was someone way Cooper knew where to jump and / or some one finding him on the ground - or both.

I believe Cooper was wearing some kind of location device - how it worked I do not know - was it for others to locate him or him to locate them.

The Amboy chute we dismissed long ago - it was in the projected site - but I wonder if the old front pack could have had that old chute in it. I wonder it Cossey even thought about if it was the front pack with the remnants in it.

Seems like this was ruled out - but that damn Chute bothers ALL of us.
IT bothers me even more now that Cossey is dead....the two events are just too close not to connect.

AT LEAST not for me - after all Jo Connects dots that do not connect.

What connects them are things Duane showed me and told me.
Bear in mind - the Amboy chute had NOT been found in 1979 when we were out there...why was Duane fixated on that place. He went into the Bar to see if someone was there and then later when we came back he and I both went to the store on the N.E. side.
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Jo, you do realize allowing the plane to pass over silver lake puts the plane further west, and jumps to the other side of V-23 according to the FBI flight path? where does the plane go from the silver lake point?

Did Cooper give specific directions leading the plane to the Merwin lake area? I seem to recall he didn't.
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Jo, you do realize allowing the plane to pass over silver lake puts the plane further west, and jumps to the other side of V-23 according to the FBI flight path? where does the plane go from the silver lake point?

Did Cooper give specific directions leading the plane to the Merwin lake area? I seem to recall he didn't.




All I am doing is using a triangle of Clear Plastic - from some of my last husbands engineering thing - to see if I could make any sense of all the things Duane mentioned.

Silver Lake was the highest point. These things are made out of clear plastic..and I remembered that the son of a man whose name is not necessary lived there but, at a much later date - I do not believe his father ever lived there.

Understand what I am doing - just using a triangle of clear plastic and going to the outer limits to see what under under a given area....the larger the triangle the less likely it works.

Also turning the triangle in different directions - all in all that would give you a big circle.

At one point ALL of the things Duane showed me and told me about and took me to - where under the triangle.
Also per the camp the focal point of the search.

I have other larger detailed maps I want to try the same test on - the ones that Sluggo brought to me - they are very large and I have to get to feeling better than I do now to pull those out.
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So what is your REAL name and WHAT is your REAL interest in this? To spend so much time - you must have SOMETHING to gain!



Jo, YOU are the biggest mystery on this thread. What is your REAL name and WHAT is your REAL interest in this?

Is your book finished yet?

If you have actually spent 17+ years trying to connect Duane to the Cooper hijacking without being able to come up with a single link, then you love to waste your time.

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***Jo, you do realize allowing the plane to pass over silver lake puts the plane further west, and jumps to the other side of V-23 according to the FBI flight path? where does the plane go from the silver lake point?

Did Cooper give specific directions leading the plane to the Merwin lake area? I seem to recall he didn't.




All I am doing is using a triangle of Clear Plastic - from some of my last husbands engineering thing - to see if I could make any sense of all the things Duane mentioned.

Silver Lake was the highest point. These things are made out of clear plastic..and I remembered that the son of a man whose name is not necessary lived there but, at a much later date - I do not believe his father ever lived there.

Understand what I am doing - just using a triangle of clear plastic and going to the outer limits to see what under under a given area....the larger the triangle the less likely it works.

Also turning the triangle in different directions - all in all that would give you a big circle.

At one point ALL of the things Duane showed me and told me about and took me to - where under the triangle.
Also per the camp the focal point of the search.

I have other larger detailed maps I want to try the same test on - the ones that Sluggo brought to me - they are very large and I have to get to feeling better than I do now to pull those out.

Jo, You would probably feel a lot better even faster if you would stop such nonsense as you describe above. What you are doing is absolutely meaningless.

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mrshutter45

Jo, you do realize allowing the plane to pass over silver lake puts the plane further west, and jumps to the other side of V-23 according to the FBI flight path? where does the plane go from the silver lake point?

Did Cooper give specific directions leading the plane to the Merwin lake area? I seem to recall he didn't.



ALL Cooper told them was Mexico and when they suggested Reno I believe he knew the routes they would possible take and all he needed was his triangle - per any route south they would have flown over this specific area and perhaps changing directions after that - why the timing was crucial.

I do NOT believe Cooper did this alone - I feel 95% sure of that. I don't think he did it all for himself. This friend who got cheated by the system - the man with the radio and microwave history - the man who when he left the service kept working on his ideas and then the government stole them...

Perhaps someone Duane was willing to lay his life down for - especially since he had been diagnosed and sentenced to the same horrible death his mother died of.

I just remember a part of the story about his man I had forgot - when I get on a memory role it does not stop.

Duane said the military stole the man's invention - can't remember the exact words. The system (for lack of better words) - some people - do not remember what city he named - Vegas - I believe, were going to make lot of money off it - this was when he talked about locators - and installing them in cars. Then this part is so vauge - he tells me the man got a backer....so he did make some money out of it. Maybe NO connection to Cooper and just a man Duane met and knew....but not the impression I got at the time.

So track from 1971 to 1980 what new gadgets showed up that required a location system...did he sell the rights or whatever...who developed this and was it developed by the mililtary and adapated by others...


Lots of new stuff showed up 1968 to 1978...but what system was made known that would incorporated a locator of sorts.
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***So what is your REAL name and WHAT is your REAL interest in this? To spend so much time - you must have SOMETHING to gain!



You guys all know my name and that the only thing I want is the truth.

Robt 99 if your father (I doubt you have a wife) had confessed to being Cooper - pretend your father was the right age and you found the background on him and then find you didn't even know your father at all...and told you he was Cooper and you saw the things and held in your hands the things I have told about.

Pretend for a moment you had little to NO knowledge of Cooper and then BANG it hit you in the face like a canon ball - but, NO ONE believes you.

The more you find the more likely it was true - but NO ONE listens - NO ONE really listens. They all want to tell a story or to play games and you only have the one life line (this thread) - the one last chance to be heard. The FBI dismissed you - yet you talk to people in WA you can't even talk about - and others you can't talk about - so how do you prove it. You just try to tell it...it over and over until someone hears you.

You try to remember every detail so nothing is forgot or left out.

Belived me I would love to have had a life - I would love to have made trips and have had fun - I do regret the yrs of my life WASTED on this - but why did he tell me all of this if it was not meant to be.

So very tired today - and I am under a lot of stress due to something that happened yesterday that could cause me to loose my security. Be sure anyone you hire to do any repairs around your house is licensed and insured...verify verify.

It was a simple job not difficult and one I did before by myself in 2008. Trying to get my house ready to sell so I can go into a place without all the upkeep this house and yard require...9 months out of the yr things grow here. The humidity causes rust and mold and other things - including poor air quality. This high maintaince lawn is expensive when you are unable to do it yourself and maintaining a home along the coastal area is very expensive not to mention the insurance.
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