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skyjack71

I have the disk of the maps Sluggo gave me and I have actual copies of some of them.
I could not open them but the woman who has a shop here was able to open them several yrs ago...they are NOT corrupted.



Jo, What do you see on those disks? Describe the maps you are talking about?

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***I have the disk of the maps Sluggo gave me and I have actual copies of some of them.
I could not open them but the woman who has a shop here was able to open them several yrs ago...they are NOT corrupted.



Jo, What do you see on those disks? Describe the maps you are talking about?

She's talking about the maps Sluggo has freely available on his website. They've been there for years.

Sluggo (real name: Wayne Walker) said this in March 2009, regarding this thread:

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'Similarly, last January, I started posting to a popular skydiver’s forum that ran a particular interesting thread about NORJAK (DB Cooper). At first it was mostly serious posts about the NORJAK case and it was obvious that most of the regular posters had a common goal. That was, to try to make some sense of NORJAK.

But alas, it took a turn to the dark side. The posters abandoned spirited debate, for outright bullying. The discussions became circuitous and nothing was being accomplished. It was just too much time and energy expended with little or no payout.

So, today I abandoned it.

I made some good friends while I was there, some are probably reading this. If so, I would like to invite you to the “NORJAK Forum.” I promise that it will be a place for open discussion about NORJAK, a place where you can discuss your ideas without ridicule or having to face the “cyber schoolyard bully..."



Smart guy, isn't he? My opinion on Cooperland is pretty simple. There is the public. They are normal. They have no axe to grind. Then there is the underbelly of Cooperland, where some amateur sleuths will lie, cheat, character-assassinate anyone who gets in their way, or presents evidence that might actually solve the case. Suspect anyone who HAS a book, PROPOSES a book, or is trying to get a current book published.

That includes me. (*laughs*) But I want you to notice something before you blame me for 'all' problems on this thread. Compare Sluggo's blog post to the date I actually joined Dropzone.

That's right. Sluggo quit this forum long before I arrived in 2010. Obviously he thought there were problems over a year before I came along. Enough so that he quit, anyway.

Question EVERYTHING. :)


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RobertMBlevins

******I have the disk of the maps Sluggo gave me and I have actual copies of some of them.
I could not open them but the woman who has a shop here was able to open them several yrs ago...they are NOT corrupted.



Jo, What do you see on those disks? Describe the maps you are talking about?

She's talking about the maps Sluggo has freely available on his website. They've been there for years.

Sluggo (real name: Wayne Walker) said this in March 2009, regarding this thread:

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'Similarly, last January, I started posting to a popular skydiver’s forum that ran a particular interesting thread about NORJAK (DB Cooper). At first it was mostly serious posts about the NORJAK case and it was obvious that most of the regular posters had a common goal. That was, to try to make some sense of NORJAK.

But alas, it took a turn to the dark side. The posters abandoned spirited debate, for outright bullying. The discussions became circuitous and nothing was being accomplished. It was just too much time and energy expended with little or no payout.

So, today I abandoned it.

I made some good friends while I was there, some are probably reading this. If so, I would like to invite you to the “NORJAK Forum.” I promise that it will be a place for open discussion about NORJAK, a place where you can discuss your ideas without ridicule or having to face the “cyber schoolyard bully..."



Smart guy, isn't he? My opinion on Cooperland is pretty simple. There is the public. They are normal. They have no axe to grind. Then there is the underbelly of Cooperland, where some amateur sleuths will lie, cheat, character-assassinate anyone who gets in their way, or presents evidence that might actually solve the case. Suspect anyone who HAS a book, PROPOSES a book, or is trying to get a current book published.

That includes me. (*laughs*) But I want you to notice something before you blame me for 'all' problems on this thread. Compare Sluggo's blog post to the date I actually joined Dropzone.

That's right. Sluggo quit this forum long before I arrived in 2010. Obviously he thought there were problems over a year before I came along. Enough so that he quit, anyway.

Question EVERYTHING. :)
Not true at all. A simple search would show you Sluggo posted clear into 2011, some in 2012, etc.

Here is one of his posts regarding you in 2011 ...

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Re: [RobertMBlevins] FBI Investigation & Liar's Test. [In reply to] Quote | Reply
The "Blev" said:
"....and I think people see through this easily."

That's not the only thing posters on this thread see through.

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Sluggo

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Well...Sluggo may have posted later at Dropzone, but according to his 2009 blog post I quoted he wasn't very happy about this thread even before I came along.

As far as his comments on Christiansen and whether he believes Christiansen was Cooper, that's his opinion and he has a perfect right to that opinion.
Not a problem.

Like most people, I am not as good as people say sometimes, but neither am I as bad. :)

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'Okay...it's a bit late but I just got word on what I can and cannot say regarding the Adventures In Literature event (some Cooper-related) happening the second Saturday of this coming August at the Auburn Avenue Theater, good old Auburn, WA.

1) Doors will open at 9AM. Admission is FREE.

2) See Gayla at the Concessions Window for your free snacks and drinks.

3) Todd at Finally Found Books in Auburn is scheduling the speakers for this event. So go to him for anything speaker-related. If you are a Cooper nut, or can't behave yourself, don't bother. Festival director Connie Henke, yours truly, and others have given him his Miranda Warnings. Actually that would be Cooper Nut warnings. Trust me - they exist. If your presentation is regarding Cooper, you might want to contact me first to serve as the go-between with Todd. Speaker slots are filling quickly.

4) There will be no presentations, discussions, or readings between 12 noon and 1:30PM, due to the parade up Main Street. This is the time you should get out of the theater and wander around looking for food. I always do. :)
5) The famous Book Swap will be in place. This is where we lay out a few hundred books on tables in the lobby and you bring your own. Swap them out one for one or twenty for twenty for books you actually want.

6) This event is not totally about DB Cooper, but he gets some time. William Sullivan, the author of The Case of DB Cooper's Parachute, will be doing a slideshow and a reading. He's been provided the usual Miranda (okay, Cooper nut) warnings. Not my fault that this became necessary. Back in 2010, phone call threats came into City Hall before I did the first Kenny slideshow. No one on the organizing committee for Auburn Days has forgotten that. And neither has our current mayor or the police.

7) Directly after Mr Sullivan speaks, I will present a slideshow on Kenny Christiansen with some updated information. Don't expect me to prove he was Cooper. I only offer the tools to find out one way or another if anyone's interested. I will speak on the Amboy chute and Cossey's murder as well.

8) Three famous female crime writers from the Northwest will banter from the stage with attendees and do a group discussion. Don't ask for their names. I'm not allowed to tell you yet. This is the event I look forward to the most.

9) There will be a container just inside the doors of the theater for you to drop your donated books for children. I strongly urge you to provide one if you show up. Hardcovers with dust jackets work best. They go to family shelters and childrens' hospitals in the Puget Sound area. A full-scale drive for the same thing is being organized through the Auburn School District. Books are turned over to a respected Seattle writers' organization who have been doing this for years.

10) At six PM, after all of this ends, I will run two films until around 10PM. One is family-oriented. The second one I am open to suggestions. Last year we showed Them, Robinson Crusoe on Mars, and American Graffiti - Special Edition.'



'Say hello to the bad guy...' :)


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RobertMBlevins

Well...Sluggo may have posted later at Dropzone, but according to his 2009 blog post I quoted he wasn't very happy about this thread even before I came along.

As far as his comments on Christiansen and whether he believes Christiansen was Cooper, that's his opinion and he has a perfect right to that opinion.
Not a problem.



You dont know what the F^#& you are talking about!

You didnt know Sluggo at all and still don't.

Of course that's just my opinion! B|B|B|B|:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S[:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/]:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:DB|

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georger

***Well...Sluggo may have posted later at Dropzone, but according to his 2009 blog post I quoted he wasn't very happy about this thread even before I came along.

As far as his comments on Christiansen and whether he believes Christiansen was Cooper, that's his opinion and he has a perfect right to that opinion.
Not a problem.



You dont know what the F^#& you are talking about!

You didnt know Sluggo at all and still don't.

Of course that's just my opinion! B|B|B|B|:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S[:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/]:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:DB|

That's a lot of clicky-faces. It's almost artwork I think. :S

Didn't say I knew Sluggo. I only quoted from his blog. I'm going to suggest they send someone else from the Alternate Website to make senseless comments and veiled attacks. There is a job opening here. You're fired. (*laughs*)


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***Well...Sluggo may have posted later at Dropzone, but according to his 2009 blog post I quoted he wasn't very happy about this thread even before I came along.

As far as his comments on Christiansen and whether he believes Christiansen was Cooper, that's his opinion and he has a perfect right to that opinion.
Not a problem.



You dont know what the F^#& you are talking about!

You didnt know Sluggo at all and still don't.

Of course that's just my opinion! B|B|B|B|:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S[:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/][:/]:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:DB|

Blevins, Georger got it right!

Jo Weber and I were talking about some map disks that I sent Sluggo, probably before you came along here.

Since I doubt that Jo would have any use for the maps in question, I was asking her what was on the disks she had. I doubt if Sluggo sent her the disks in question, but if he did, it is perfectly okay with me. I was simply wondering what Jo was using them for.

Robert99

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Georger doesn't know a hat from a windmill when it comes to me. He just thinks he does. He wasn't really talking about the maps, anyway. Nor does he care about Jo or any problems she may have with them. He was just taking the opportunity to toss out another insult.

And everyone knows Sluggo has maps galore posted on his website. An entire page of them. Anything relevant that he has regarding maps/Cooper case is almost certainly there. And has been for years.

Why don't you just ask Jo to stick the disks in her computer and copy over the files to a folder? She can then email them to you a few at a time. Gmail allows up to 25mb in attachments per message.

Side Note: I keep hearing about Jo's computer and how slow it is. I have some suggestions.

Go HERE. Download and install the program titled Wise Disk Cleaner. Run the program in both normal cleaning and advanced cleaner. Your internet cache is probably jammed full. When you have an hour or so you won't be using your computer, then run the disk defrag program last. You'll be amazed what happens.

If all this works for you, then go back to Wise.com and download the registry cleaner and run that too. It's the only reg cleaner that actually works. They are all free programs. Don't run the registry program more than every few months or so. It's unnecessary. The disk cleaner should be run at least twice a week.

If anyone out there was sucker enough to either buy Windows 8, or purchase a computer that came pre-installed with Windows 8...my sympathies. ('WTF? Where's my START MENU!!??') LOL. That's Microsoft. They keep fixing something until it no longer works. Easy fix for Windows 8 lack of a Start Menu: Seek out the free program called Classic Shell and install it. Then you get back your Start Menu and you ditch that stupid blue screen with the tiles. The blue screen is still there, but to see it you have to click on the program link. And why would you do that anyway if you have a Start Menu back? I run Windows 7 Ultimate on all our computers. I wouldn't touch Win 8 with a cattle prod.

Sluggo's blog post about his experiences at DZ, even though he did post a few times later here anyway, is relevant. If it wasn't, he wouldn't have said it. If it wasn't, he would have removed it. It's self-evident on its face.

Actual Cooper Stuff: 'TM' (co-writer) and I are running up the storyboards for the script right now. We're going to meet up in the next week or two and try to pull the KC story together into something reasonably coherent. We will see how it goes. TM is fairly young and it took a while for me to bring her up to speed on Cooperland and Cooper in general. She only knew the basics, and that's only because she is from Seattle. But she has now seen most of the main stuff available on both the case and KC. Yes, I did warn her about possible repercussions for crossing Checkpoint Charlie into Cooperland. (She could be insulted publicly, nasty posts made about her on the internet, etc.) Miranda Warnings issued...;)


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RobertMBlevins

Georger doesn't know a hat from a windmill when it comes to me. He just thinks he does. He wasn't really talking about the maps, anyway. Nor does he care about Jo or any problems she may have with them. He was just taking the opportunity to toss out another insult.

(She could be insulted publicly, nasty posts made about her on the internet, etc.) Miranda Warnings issued...;)



I said two weeks after you arrived in 2010 you were trying to
hijack this thread? Sluggo called you: "a legend in his own
mind". Didn't I also say that Gray had warned us about you, and
knew things, and said you would stoop to anything to get your
way?

Seem you are "known" far and wide.

To repeat, you are the one who brought Sluggo and all of this
other shit up! The rest of us just follow your path of destruction.

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Robert99

Blevins,

To repeat, Georger got it right!



Well, sounds like a 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' kind of thing. You know what, Robert? Everyone got an opinion. A lot of folks have seen both you and Georger's posts here. And some of them email with WTF type of questions about those posts. They are generally not favorable toward you guys.

You know, after a few days and you go back and look at almost anyone's post here, you'll see it's been visited five, six, seven hundred or more times. And a lot of those folks are not sympathetic to what they consider over-the-top insults. You have your opinion about me. Georger has his. Others have theirs. That's the way it goes.

Georger says in part:

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'Didn't I also say that Gray had warned us about you, and knew things, and said you would stoop to anything to get your way?'



That again? You just don't know when to stop flogging a dead horse. I already questioned Gray on that a long time ago and quoted your statement on that to him. He says he said no such thing. And I believe him. He also added basically the same reason as Sluggo gave for not posting here. I'm not sure what you mean by 'stoop to anything to get your way'. Everything I've presented has been pretty straightforward. You're just pissed because I don't subscribe to the Cooper Royalty myth.

I keep trying to toss in Cooper stuff here and there lately. All I see coming back is the same thing that comes out of cows when they lift their tails. B| Maybe it's time for you to head back over to Deadzone.


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Blevins,

For someone who is supposedly hard at work on your screenplay about KC, you sure have a lot of free time on your hands.

And I hope your assistant on the screenplay has at least some knowledge about research and fact checking.

Remember, the faster you get the screenplay done, the sooner the Hollywood people will be lining up to bid on the screen rights. Then you can drive a Rolls to the events in Auburn this summer.

Robert99

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RobertMBlevins

***Blevins,

To repeat, Georger got it right!



Well, sounds like a 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' kind of thing. You know what, Robert? Everyone got an opinion. A lot of folks have seen both you and Georger's posts here. And some of them email with WTF type of questions about those posts. They are generally not favorable toward you guys.

You know, after a few days and you go back and look at almost anyone's post here, you'll see it's been visited five, six, seven hundred or more times.

I keep trying to toss in Cooper stuff here and there lately. All I see coming back is the same thing that comes out of cows when they lift their tails. B| Maybe it's time for you to head back over to Deadzone.

Yes, Dropzone has some viewership. So!? Do you think it's because of you? :D

It is going to be a very long day for those 700 viewers of yours -
Blev. Your soap opera has grown thin and stale.

So, who are these 700 viewers of you here? Inmates of Attica
trapped in their cells? A captive audience?

HI GUYS! :S:S:S:D:D:D

Back to your regularly scheduled programing of Blev's blank
screen -

BYE GUYS! REMEMBER LIGHTS OUT AT SEVEN!

JUST REMEMBER WHO RUNS THINGS HERE - NOT YOU - ITS BLEV! BEV IS TOP DOG HERE!

LIGHTS OUT AT SEVEN EXCEPT IN BLEV'S CAGE - BLEV HAS SPECIAL PRIVELEGES. :D

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Robert99

Blevins,

For someone who is supposedly hard at work on your screenplay about KC, you sure have a lot of free time on your hands.

And I hope your assistant on the screenplay has at least some knowledge about research and fact checking.

Remember, the faster you get the screenplay done, the sooner the Hollywood people will be lining up to bid on the screen rights. Then you can drive a Rolls to the events in Auburn this summer.

Robert99



Couple of drama queens here today, I think. You must think I have no experience in these things. How come you aren't jumping all over Bruce Smith's idea to move to LA so he can shop around his book for a movie?

I already explained how TW and I are approaching the screenplay. We're sticking to the known facts on Kenny's life and taking some license on certain details of the hijacking. Not the known facts of the hijacking, but on how Kenny and Mr Geestman actually pulled it off. These are educated guesses based on our best information to date. I know you asked about that, but the truth is you don't care one way or another, correct? So why ask? :S

No one 'lines up' to buy your script unless you just came off a big NYT bestseller. You sub it to your agent. The only real selling points I have are these: The book has pretty much remained in the top 50 or thereabouts in the Aviation category at Amazon, at least for the Kindle version. And that's been going on for over two years. The other is that no one has really done a serious script on Cooper previously for a feature film. I don't think you can count the Treat Williams movie because it was more comedy than anything else. So...Cooper is not an overdone theme. As far as selling the script, your agent does lunch here and there and tries to sell it for you. That's the business. There is no guarantee it will be picked up.

Your opinions about my activities on the Cooper case mean nothing to me, since they are ALWAYS negative no matter what. This means you approach everything from a negative point of view whenever it has 'Blevins' attached to it. EVERYTHING. Your opinions are both automatic...and expected.

The only problem with that approach is that others see through that kind of thinking very easily. They see your comments are more personal-based than anything else.

And who says I have a lot of time on my hands? I wish. I have two books to get out, one this month, the other in May, cleaning customers to deal with, endless submissions from unknown writers even though our website has been closed to subs for months, my cat needs a bath...well, forget that. He can wait. ;)


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Guys . . . again, stop this nonsense with talking about each other and talk about the subject of DB Cooper.

When you guys yammer on about each other, it just leads to bannings. Is that really want you guys are after?
quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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Guys . . . again, stop this nonsense with talking about each other and talk about the subject of DB Cooper.

When you guys yammer on about each other, it just leads to bannings. Is that really want you guys are after?



I agree. I get tired of dropping by and seeing every post responded to with personal and/or negative comments. For example, what exactly is wrong with the event at the Auburn Ave theater this August whose main aim is raising nice books for poor kids in family shelters or sick kids in Puget Sound hospitals?

You want to know the group that is helping provide authors to speak at this event? And why I say the house will be packed? Fine. I will tell you.

It's Seattle Seven Writers Dot Org. Their top member is Garth Stein.

There's no use in you contacting them and spouting off Blevins crap, either. They do not know me. And why should they? The go-between is not ME, but the owner of Auburn's Finally Found Books, Todd Hulbert. He has been appointed co-chair for the Adventures in Literature event at the theater this year for Auburn Days.
I have absolutely NOTHING to do with writer scheduling between SeaSeven and FF Books. Nothing. I've been allowed to present the Kenny slideshow and screen other possible Cooper-related authors for inclusion by Mr Hulbert. At his discretion. He's letting me make suggestions and recommendations because he isn't familiar with Cooperland. That's all. And I get to run the movies afterward in the evening, which is what I look forward to the most. Gayla will do the free snacks and drinks, as she has done the last two years.

There is nothing wrong with a city-wide drive to raise these books for kids, or with anything we are presenting at the theater. You should be ashamed of yourselves. And to a certain extent, it is Cooper-related since William Sullivan (The Case of D.B. Cooper's Parachute) and myself will be doing slideshow presentations. He on his new book, mine on Kenny. I tried to include Bruce Smith in all this, but he refused. Blevins is attached to it somehow. So it must be crap.

There is so much vitriol in Cooperland that it amazes me sometimes. Everyone wants to be 'first' to maybe solve the case. Everyone has a suspect they support, or wants the public to believe them. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, but maybe the better approach is to just lay out what you have and take your chances...see if you are right...and accept the final results. At least with this approach the truth will be served. Maybe it will go your way, maybe it won't. But you have to be able to face yourself no matter what happens. There IS life beyond DB Cooper. ;)

'Say hello to the bad guy...' :)


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Georger's rely to Blevins:
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You do not know what you are talking about!
You didnt know Sluggo at all and still don't.
Of course that's just my opinion! B|B|B|B|:S:S:S



Jo's reply to Blevins & Georger:

Chill!

Blevins does NOT KNOW what I have on a disk.

SLUGGO BROUGHT MANY MAPS WITH HIM OF THE AREAS - MAPS NOT MADE AVAILABLE HERE OR ON HIS SIGHT.

He also sent me a disk with maps on it that were NOT on his site and some on his site.

Some he had printed in very large expensive lamintated formats.

I DO NOT KNOW IF THE MAPS YOU GUYS ARE SEEKING ARE AMONG THE MULIPLE MAPS provided TO ME or ON THE DISK. The disk was sent to me in relation to the flight path. It was very similar to the one the search efforts were using to hunt for Cooper in an on search site posted recently. The flight of the path and the search areas.

Blevins seemed to miss the point I could not open them on my computer, but the other woman was able to because she was one of 2 individuals around who had equipment to print MAPS.

I could not afford for her to print them. It was yrs ago - I do not know if she can still open them...or if she still is in business.

Due to serious health issues I do not have the time to spend on finding someone to open the files & print them. If I can find a map person - I will have them make a copy of the disk and label it & mail it to whoever you guys select to receive this to share. I was not able to open the disk on my computer because of the formatting or the specific program.

I suggest 377, but I do not have a mailing address for him. Whoever you guys jointly decide on is OK, but NOT Bruce or Blevins or Grey or Cook.

Many of you know I keep confidential information confidential...so it is up to you guys & what the Dr. has to unload on me this wk.

It is NOT looking good....the wording was strong & adamant I be there to talk about treatments procedures. Cancelled the last appt...but retrived the disk & the result of the tests from a connected facility - I am also able to read and interpert the disks without a radiologist report....:( enough knowledge to scare the Hell out of myself!

My car is not feeling well & I need time to compose myself before facing the DR. Between the car and myself I was unable to make the 28 miles to his office.

She is 11 yrs old - a 2003 Rendevous purchased in Nov of that yr & spotless with 76,000 miles but has an expensive ailment. She like myself - has vital organs failing. She has all wheel drive & will cost over 4K to fix. She as valve problems & that would be more money.
I noted today the rear shocks are crumbling.

We both have a few miles left in us....but, struggle to keep on keeping on. Our repairs have become costly and perhaps useless and I am very tired.
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I already explained how TW and I are approaching the screenplay. We're sticking to the known facts on Kenny's life and taking some license on certain details of the hijacking. Not the known facts of the hijacking, but on how Kenny and Mr Geestman actually pulled it off. These are educated guesses based on our best information to date. I know you asked about that, but the truth is you don't care one way or another, correct? So why ask? :S

;)



RobertMBlevins,
I read your synopsis of the screenplay. Are you going to use Bernie's real name in the script? Seems like you could get sued if you come right out accuse a living person of masterminding the hijacking.

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I already explained how TW and I are approaching the screenplay. We're sticking to the known facts on Kenny's life and taking some license on certain details of the hijacking. Not the known facts of the hijacking, but on how Kenny and Mr Geestman actually pulled it off. These are educated guesses based on our best information to date. I know you asked about that, but the truth is you don't care one way or another, correct? So why ask? :S

;)



RobertMBlevins,
I read your synopsis of the screenplay. Are you going to use Bernie's real name in the script? Seems like you could get sued if you come right out accuse a living person of masterminding the hijacking.

Why not? I'm okay with that. Let him sue us. Then he would have to answer all those annoying little questions. You know...where were you on Thanksgiving week with Kenny...why did you say on national TV you thought Kenny could be Cooper when you were with him...why did you lie to Marisa Kagan and History Channel staff when you said you hardly knew Kenny and thought he was a dishwasher...why did you say you were out to sea with Foss Tugs the entire year of the hijacking and Foss says you weren't...stuff like that.

I could go on. Don't get me started. We are well-prepared for anything from Geestman. Trust me on this. I didn't list the half of it. :)


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The man does NOT give up. He has the MOST UNLIKELY subject around and yet he goes on & on & on. He KNOWS his subject is NOT Cooper and the most unlikely presented other than McCoy.

Rather than try to find MORE proof and to have his subjects come forward with the supposed claims he has made in his book and on this thread... he just continues on course. I make NO sense.

:)
I only recently made information available I have not before. NO response from the FBI or any acknowledgement. Cooper/Weber is an untouchable - The information is buried in WA in files that will not be made available until 2034 and the date was extended in the past on these statutes.

Remember that the details on Bobby Kennedy were extend to 2043 if I remember correctly. This change was made RIGHT after I made arrangements to go to WA to view Bobby's photos - then suddenly the viewing was cancelled and the date extended for these pictures to be made public....I expect they WILL NEVER be made public.

Remember the tie story? Duane's step children alway told the story at family functions....Duane claimed (before & after the skyjacking) to have Bobby Kennedy's tie that he stole while working at the same hotel Bobby stayed in after he came off the Kentucky campaign and before the assassination of Martin Luther King.

Remember how close the 2 incidents were & and Weber had just been released from Jefferson. Duane had been in prison with James Earl Ray and was in contact with him after the assassination of King.

At one time before James Earl Ray was found he supposedly received a call from a man who identified himself as John Collins...a call to a hotel Ray was working at while on the run. Then after I contacted the attorneys working for Ray - the name got changed from Collins to another name. The government ERASED history. The information made available in depositions was suddenly changed. I remember you guys tried to prove I was crazy - but you cannot erase my memories....my conversation with the attorneys representing Jower & Ray. It was actually in writing at one time & then POOF! As soon as I made the connections of Weber and Collins....suddenly Collins was erased from the Ray files.

Yet, the information I took this from was from before the RAY trial and before I went public with Weber/Collins....then POOF! Surely that old article still exists somewhere in cyber space...or only in my memory or in my mind and the stories Duane told me about Ray. Remember that in 2000 Duane had to tell me he had lived a portion of his life as John Collins and that he had been in Jefferson...he told me other things during that time span, but I had shut down because I just didn't know how to deal with the things he was telling me. He was seeing a psychologist during that time to adjust to being on the kidney machine.

Over the next 4 yrs Duane would tell me other things and I did NOT understand what they were - I did NOT know that the things he was telling me where NOT COMMON knowledge. I was the main income coming into the house -and I worked 9 to 12 hr per day - 6 days a wk....plus cooking all of his meals and taking care of they house and making sure his needs were tended to.

I put a lot of miles on a car during that time and it was very stressful - but I was a survivor and I loved my husband. I just loved him for being himself - he didn't need to make up tales. I remember all of the things he told me - they seemed odd, but I had also just found out in 1990 after he went on the kidney machine that he had used the name of John C. Collins...there for I did listen to the stories and I did ask questions.

The look on his face and the way he tried to be sure I remembered certain things - I cannot forget that...but, why was is so important for him to tell me about his life after all those yrs...he certain was NOT trying to impress me! It was just the opposite - he knew how straight I was about life and things and how I was raised.

Yet, he knew I knew about some things I have never talked about to the thread or to anyone - and I had accepted him and that he was not without flaws. IF I had only know then what I know today - he might have died in a prison cell and not in a hospital....why he had to wait until there was nothing any one could do - he tried to leave evidence - but, DUMB BROAD didn't know what it was! Dumb Broad just didn't get it!
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RobertMBlevins


Why not? I'm okay with that. Let him sue us. Then he would have to answer all those annoying little questions. You know...where were you on Thanksgiving week with Kenny...why did you say on national TV you thought Kenny could be Cooper when you were with him...why did you lie to Marisa Kagan and History Channel staff when you said you hardly knew Kenny and thought he was a dishwasher...why did you say you were out to sea with Foss Tugs the entire year of the hijacking and Foss says you weren't...stuff like that.




:SBlevins U take the CAKE. U have no communications with Geestman & U also know due to his advanced age & health & you have drug this out for several yrs - :([:/]:| Geestman will NOT be alive to deny the claimes you have made.

NOT one of your witnesses - have attempted to go public because they are hiding in shame. YOU made public fools out of them.

U never discussed other suspects with them or made pictures of other suspects available to your little group.

[:/]Did you know an attorney maybe digging into facts regarding your claims?

:o Did U know there maybe an attorney already in touch with your witnesses?

:(Did U know they maybe shown pictures of other suspects & made aware of claims you made & concealment of your promotional actions?

Maybe an organization decided to put an end to this form of Senior abuse you have probagated for a story. Crimes AGAINST SENIORS! AARP! Just to name a couple.

The manipulated of seniors without providing them all of the options that should have been made available to them.
Did YOU advise them they should have their OWN attorney before having them sign a contract?
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I erased what I thought might be the offending post. Sorry.

The exploitations of individuals should never be allowed and that is why I have never told ALL of the story about Weber. The others are NOT here to defend themselve.

I had an extensive conversation with someone recently regarding this. Since Weber's past involve living and mostly deceased individuals - it would have to be written as fiction.

Things I have read about other suspects ended up in courts - such a the story about McCoy. When the story deals with Seniors - there are many considerations to be taken....

When you make a contract to write a story and all of your subjects /witnesses are seniors extra precautions need to apply.
They must be made aware they understand that some thing will be said that might embarasse them and when they ask the writer about specifics the writer need to clean his or her material up to comply.

They can advise the seniors to not reveal information without the advice of an attorney so they throughly understand the consequenses.

Senior abuse has been rampant in many areas of the Cooper story. Most of my story is about people who are already dead!

Hard to write book or be someplace where
one sees senior abused everyday and it is no use to warn the offending party...they just keep on keeping on.

Crimes Against Seniors and ARRP are trying to stop these suppposed crimes against senior. But is is not my place to do so!
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