DB Cooper

[mrshutter45 21]

Robert, I had zip to do with any of it. I don't owe anyone anything...what about 377, that's his buddy....free pass? 

 

This board still wants answers on the sky sport guy? 

Edited March 16, 2020 by mrshutter45

[mrshutter45 21]

Robert, it's all ridiculous. I had zip to do with any part of the book..you are correct. you are banned from my site. should I start background checks on my PUBLIC forum? you know, felony convictions? 

I didn't write the book nor did I have anything to do with the book. Snowmman and Sheridan DID. Sheridan worked with Snowmman to completion. your argument is boring and has nothing to do with DB Cooper or researching DB Cooper. 

you are deflecting from giving this board an explanation why you are dodging the sky sport question that has been asked by three members of this board. 

"You don't represent this board, by the way."

neither do you with this kangaroo court you always hold stopping forward motion. everything was fine until you showed up once again!

Edited March 16, 2020 by mrshutter45

[mrshutter45 21]

Dudeman...18 hours ago....

So, Robert, did you talk to the Sky Sports guy?

Dudeman March 6th

So, what did the guy from Sky Sports say?

then Hagger asked as well.

you owe them an apology!!!! for lying!!

Edited March 16, 2020 by mrshutter45

[FLYJACK 654]

Would it be worthwhile to check the WSHM chute for DNA in case Cooper did handle it..

It was handled by many since but modern DNA analysis can detect a touch...

 

You might get a dozen profiles... but one might be Cooper.

Edited March 16, 2020 by FLYJACK

[mrshutter45 21]

That and what's on the surface of the container....particles, metals etc...

[mrshutter45 21]

Robert, I will say this one more time. I did not "engage" in and copyright violations by any means. you are accusing me of a crime that will be reported to this site. 

You did wrong directly using a VPN to intrude into my forum where you DIDN'T belong and stole material off my site.

Sheridan and Snowmman finished the book. I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THEY BOTH DID. he did not publish anything through me or my site. he finished the book and obviously Sheridan approved. 

I am not going to contact anyone. contact 377 about this. you are speaking for 377. he said NOTHING about Snowmman not doing it and and you should of done it. he only stated you would of done it for free. he's a lawyer, he doesn't drop hints. he states what he says directly. if he was against it and did nothing is that my fault too? 377 is friends with both parties, not me! 

also your track record with the law is incomplete. trust me, I know!

according to Snowmman, he purchased his copy prior to Sheridan taking the PDF down before he started writing his book. 

Edited March 16, 2020 by mrshutter45

[mrshutter45 21]

Speaking about things today, here, on this site...you told this board you would contact a member from sky sports. you either do what you said you would or admit it was a lie. this has nothing to do with trust. YOU started the whole thing, now finish it...

Edited March 16, 2020 by mrshutter45

[mrshutter45 21]

Speaking about things today, here, on this site...you told this board you would contact a member from sky sports. you either do what you said you would or admit it was a lie. this has nothing to do with trust. YOU started the whole thing, now finish it...

[mrshutter45 21]

377 posted in 2019

 his book's text has benefited substantially from Snow's editing. It provides insight into who Sheridan is and how he became so virulently anti-US govt.

377 May 2019

I still find it curious that despite his expressed desire to see his novel published and widely read, at every turn he has taken action to ensure the exact opposite. He originally offered this semi-autobiographic work online until posts on Dropzone called out a number of curious parallels to Norjack. Then POOF, it disappeared. He later claimed Amazon dropped it, but that simply isn't true. Blevins and Snow attempted to help him edit and republish the work. Sheridan engaged deeply with Snow, who put a huge amount of work into much-needed editing without gutting or muting Sheridan's raw voice. In the end, they couldn't come to terms about what would get published. The dispute had nothing to do with money. Snow did all his work free.

377 in 2018

Actually my copies are spoken for. One goes to EU as thanks for sponsoring the conference. One goes to my wife who wants both Sheridan and Snowmman to personally autograph her copy at a lunch which we will schedule in Santa Rosa as soon as Sheridan's rage cools sufficiently. The last goes to my son who is developing an interest in the case.

377 November 2018

This will feature prominently in my closing argument in Snow's copyright infringement trial.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the defendant, Mr. Snowmman, sought nothing more than to fulfill a dying man's wish to see his work published. The defendant neither sought or made any profit and in fact sent 100% of the gross proceeds to Mr. Peterson without taking a single penny to reimburse the considerable expenses he incurred.

After closing statements by counsel have concluded, the judge will instruct you on the law, including the defenses of license and consent. Please pay close attention to these instructions. As you apply the law to the facts in this case, remember please Mr. Peterson's own words: "I am anxious to see this manuscript widely distributed before I die. It may simply disappear."

Thanks to the selfless work of the defendant, Mr. Peterson's work will not disappear. His express wishes have been fulfilled by a well-meaning person. This misguided litigation seeks to punish good deeds. It is your role to see that justice is done.  Justice is never achieved by a slavish devotion to technicalities that ignores the larger picture. When you look at the larger picture you see no malicious intent, no profit, and no real harm. Please, do not punish a good deed, even if you find that it was somehow misguided or inexpertly rendered. When you look at the facts and the law that you will subsequently receive instructions on, you will see that the only just verdict is one that rejects this astonishing attack on a selfless person doing his best to fulfill the expressly stated wishes of the author. Justice and basic human decency compel a verdict for the defendant. It is the only verdict that is just and one which I am confident that you will render.

377

 

377 seem really steamed????????????????

Edited March 16, 2020 by mrshutter45

[mrshutter45 21]

2018, after I questioned Snow about the book....

Snowmman

Well, obviously he will be able to tell me if he's not.

Remember, he was trying to publish it in 2008.
I'm just completing his request here.

Didn't you see his request to Brown in 2008 here? Well, I'm Brown.
http://frightfullaughter.blogspot.com/

He's made it clear as recently as 2014 he wants it published. I'm fulfilling his wishes.

I'll mail Sheridan a check every month with any proceeds. He can use the money. I don't need any cut.

Edited March 16, 2020 by mrshutter45

[The Cooper Vortex 73]

10 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said:

It's all in my autobiography, Cooperland.

When does that come out Robert?

[mrshutter45 21]

Your talking to the wrong guy..contact Sheridan Peterson or Snowmman surrounding the book. I didn't publish it, I didn't proof read it. I didn't suggest anything to it...I didn't write it, I didn't design the cover. I didn't place it on Amazon or anywhere else. I don't have a copy. I've never spoken to Peterson. I don't even know Snowmman. 377 does along with Sheridan. those are the three key people to whine about with your grudge.

As for Sky sports...you told this board you would get a hold of him and take questions..you let the board down knowing very well you had no intentions of doing anything which is called a red flag. you play the trust card all the time so why even bring something like that up? you never even responded to Dudeman. until you PROVE otherwise, it's simply not true....

[FLYJACK 654]

Robert,,

 

Sheridan's book is between Snow and Sheridan, it really has nothing to do with Shutter.

[mrshutter45 21]

Just now, FLYJACK said:

Robert,,

 

Sheridan's book is between Snow and Sheridan, it really has nothing to do with Shutter.

Thanks Fly!

[mrshutter45 21]

You need to go to the source. that's not me..it's Snowmman and Peterson. it's not my position to tell Peterson or Snow what to do that they apparently agreed to? you have a problem with the whole thing so take it up with them. you know, the one's who wrote and published the book you are upset about? it's all a bunch of noise and harassment.. 

Edited March 17, 2020 by mrshutter45

[mrshutter45 21]

Robert, again...take it up with the two involved in the whole thing..they are friends. you are making mountains out of mole hills..everyone knows what Snow did...including Peterson. if he didn't like it the book would not be for sale. your star witness even requested autographed copies. it's a continual harassing smear campaign. next week you will go after Bruce or Eric violating the policy of talking about members or other forums on a constant basis. you turn every site into the National Enquirer... 

[mrshutter45 21]

Robert, the book is not connected to me because he discussed it. I did not approve of anything. the book is not affiliated to me in by any means. I didn't promote the book in anyway or put Snow high up on a pedestal. they had there differences and must of cleared them up. they are friends. you are not friends with either one of them, nor am I..apparently, you lost out dealing with Sheridan yourself. get over it. you can't even give Eric a run for his money. just a lot of cheap talk. he pushed you right out of the way pal. 

I suggest the following, either contact Sheridan or Snowmman and take it up with them. YOU need to do something about it. you were involved in this, not me. 

Once again, this is not the RMB complaint center. it's a thread to discuss the DB Cooper case and the mods have mentioned multiple times NOT to talk about members or other sites and you violate those rules on a daily basis causing the forum to shutdown and the bickering to flow. 

Go pound sand pal....

Edited March 17, 2020 by mrshutter45

[mrshutter45 21]

The problem here Robert is you believe everyone must be involved with the media or seek fortune and fame, I don't. these things help to a degree. it's a hype for a week or two and comes right back to us. I do this for a hobby. a show pops up and they want to talk with me, then so be it. if they don't, I lose no sleep.

I just don't get how you actually believe most of us are "frustrated or jealous". you speak for us constantly. it's like Parrot said a while back. someone can post anything like the weather and you will blend me and others into it. nobody even bothers to post about you except over at the MN. your old news and bring up old news. I have far to many things in my real life to worry or be frustrated about something online. you can't get it into that hollow head of yours about that. people through my forum and outside of it have advanced the case. you haven't accomplished nothing. you advance the case publicly. you whine every year about any Cooper event and tell the world how to do it then claim to hold one every year and every year you back down. it's a never ending circle with you...

[mrshutter45 21]

Post doubled....

Edited March 18, 2020 by mrshutter45

[FLYJACK 654]

Vancouver Lake flushing channel was built in 1983.

TBAR "was" not (almost) an island for Norjak..

The land to the south "was" approx 4500 ft wide at narrowest.

(Eric Ulis scrambles to rewrite script) thank me later.

 

What is really interesting is the faint beeper heard west of Vancouver, probably the ALCOA plant.

 

7:25PM URGENT 11/26/71 TLA

TO: – SEATTLE (C164 – 81)
FROt-1: PORTLA ND ( 164-41)
UNlSUB; HIJACKING OF NORTHWEST ORIENT AIRLINES FLIGHT THREE
ZERO FiVE, ELEVEN TWENTTYFOUR SEVENTYONE:” CAA -HIJACKING; EXTORTION
00: SEATTLE.

________________ OREGON AIR NATIONAL GUARD,
ADVISED THAT AT APPROXIMATELY THREE THIRTY P.M. TODAY AS HE WAS
MAKING APPROACH TO PORTLAND INTERNATIONAL AiRPORT IN F-ONE ZERO
ONE FIGHTER: HEARD A FAINT RADIO TONE SIGNAL BEING BROADCAST
ON TWO FOUR THREE POINT ZERO MC. A FREQUENCY RESERVED FOR EMERGENCY AIRCRAFT RADIO TRANSMISSIONS. SIGNAL FIRST HEARD NEAR EVERGREEN AIRPORT, JUST EAST OF VANCOUVER, WASHINGTON, THEN HEARD SECOND TIME NEAR REYNOLDS ALUMINUM PLANT WEST OF VANCOUVER. SIGNAL HEARD FOR APPROXIMATELY FIVE MINUTES, DURING WHICH TIME __________ ATTEMPTED TO OBTAIN RADIO FIX ON AUTOMATIC DIRECTION FINDER EQUIPMENT WITHOUT SUCCESS AS SIGNAL FADED OUT. SIGNAL WAS OF
END OF PAGE ONE

TYPE TRANSMITTED BY EMERGENCY LOCATED BEACONS CARRIED BY GENERAL AVIATION AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT. NO SUCH BEACONS KNOWN TO HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION, EITHER ACCIDENTALLY OR FOR TEST PURPOSES, AT TIME. FOR INFORMATION.

END

HANDWRITTEN NOTE “MANNING HANDLING”

----

Evergreen field was East of Vancouver.

But, the Reynolds Aluminum plant was near Troutdale East of Government Island next to the Columbia far from Evergreen Airport and very far East of Vancouver. The pilot stated West of Vancouver, ALCOA was the big Aluminum plant West of Vancouver on the Columbia about 4 miles upstream of TBAR.

Did the pilot mix up the name of the Aluminum plant.. Alcoa was west of Vancouver but Reynolds was very far East. Since he described Evergreen as East, he was more likely referring to Alcoa as West.. but called it Reynolds by mistake.

 

 

red line = railroad tracks

yellow circle = Alcoa Plant

Edited March 18, 2020 by FLYJACK

[dudeman17 267]

That's interesting. Was that pilot listening for the beeper, or did he just happen to hear it. Either way, that they thought it important might suggest a McChord rig with a beeper, or possibly one put in with the money. Also, did you mention the aluminum plant just as a matter of location? A transmitted beeper signal wouldn't be like a radar ping off of aluminum.

[FLYJACK 654]

10 minutes ago, dudeman17 said:

That's interesting. Was that pilot listening for the beeper, or did he just happen to hear it. Either way, that they thought it important might suggest a McChord rig with a beeper, or possibly one put in with the money. Also, did you mention the aluminum plant just as a matter of location? A transmitted beeper signal wouldn't be like a radar ping off of aluminum.

I didn't get the impression he was actively listening for it.. there is no evidence Cooper's chutes or money had a beeper, but the FBI does hide info..

It would be consistent with a McChord chute, 

Notice though, this doc was handled by Tom Manning, the FBI man in charge of the search... it must have been important.

I'll add a reference,, 6 months later hijacker Hahneman got his chutes from Andrews AFB and they had beepers. The beepers had a 24 hour minimum and 15 mile range.

Edited March 18, 2020 by FLYJACK

[EJU 3]

I see TrollJack is still at it...can't stop trolling me. Pathetic.

Oh well, ignorant people are too ignorant to know they're ignorant.

Tena Bar is essentially on an island. In 1971 you either get there via:

1) Swimming.

2) Crossing the River "S" Bridge near Ridgefield, WA.

3) You walk 7 miles up from Vancouver...but then you have to walk 7 miles back to Vancouver.

4) Landing upon the "island" that Tena Bar is on.

Yeah I know TrollJack, Tina Mucklow buried the money on Tena Bar...in which case she probably drove.

Cheers!

[FLYJACK 654]

26 minutes ago, EJU said:

I see TrollJack is still at it...can't stop trolling me. Pathetic.

Oh well, ignorant people are too ignorant to know they're ignorant.

Tena Bar is essentially on an island. In 1971 you either get there via:

1) Swimming.

2) Crossing the River "S" Bridge near Ridgefield, WA.

3) You walk 7 miles up from Vancouver...but then you have to walk 7 miles back to Vancouver.

4) Landing upon the "island" that Tena Bar is on.

Yeah I know TrollJack, Tina Mucklow buried the money on Tena Bar...in which case she probably drove.

Cheers!

Ouch, such aggression, I must have hit a bullseye.

That is the thanks I get for saving your ass and saving you from a massive factual public embarrassment, you may be smarter than G, but you aren't smarter than me...

TBAR was not almost an island in Nov 1971 when Sheridan was in Nepal, the flushing channel didn't exist yet, neither did the 400 ft land bridge you claim. oops. Can't wait to see the rest of your pseudo-facts.

Send me the script and I'll check for other factual errors for you, no charge.

I hope you don't misrepresent my tie research that you stole, it wasn't 1963, I can prove it. Otherwise, good luck with your whatever it is... docu-fiction or something. I am proud of you, you found a sucker.

 

And I never said Tina buried the money on TBAR, that is a lie. 

Edited March 18, 2020 by FLYJACK

[EJU 3]

What is it...you're green with envy...well it is St. Patrick's Day.

Debating a troll and a liar who is ignorant to boot...it's almost not fair.

You accusing me of stealing anything, especially from you is laughable. What exactly did I steal from you? What exactly did I steal from anybody?

Let me guess, you're going to say that I "stole" my suspect from Sailshaw. Of course you will  because that's the kind of argument stupid people resort to when they are getting smoked.

Well, unfortunately for you I retained all the research that I conducted that pointed to Sheridan. Whether Sailshaw thought he was Cooper before my research pointed to him is irrelevant. You see, that's kind of like saying Sailshaw "stole" Sheridan from the guy who contacted the FBI about Sheridan a week after the skyjacking.

I realize it's probably well beyond your capability to understand, that's OK. Others are here to help you. In fact, GEORGER has been schooling your ass too.