DB Cooper

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megamalfunction

"Dan Cooper" was obviously Richard McCoy Jr.

Half of the FBI office in Salt Lake City agrees with you, Mega-Man.

However, it is not quite obvious to me. Care to spell out the details?

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RobertMBlevins

***'Lyle is actually a nice man - but he did approach the subject of Kenny because he thought it would make a good movie. According to what he told me he was watching a program & about Cooper and decided his brother made a good suppect....his letter was sent to a produce & not to the reporter as first claim. I asked him to repeat this 2 times in our conversation & I repeated it back to him.

(First, I would shoot me in the head if the quote & my reply do not show separately this time ... it gets too confusing without it ...even for me)

Anyways honestly your conviction on KC kinda makes me both wonder and nervous.

I am also a non believer that KC could be Cooper, however you have researched the subject and I am curious to read the reasons why you place him so high.

Besides here are my reasons for why I do not believe it was KC:
1. Maybe I am placing too much importance on FBI, which obviously has taken the "my way or highway" approach by declaring and insisting that Cooper died in the jump (despite McCoy & several others surviving similar feats) than humbly accepting that "this one we just couldn't crack". So as far as credibility goes may be I shouldn't place so much on them however like you said they are the "entity" in the matter and thus they do matter.
Anyways, to solve this is not a choice to FBI (or at least so I hope), if KC were to be Cooper, why would one has to go to the lengths which you already have and more, to prove such to FBI?

2. Wouldn't Florence, Tina, Mitchell or someone would've recognized him? Someone stated on shutter's that your book says that Tina & KC flew together (I have questions around that too however I have not read your book yet so I rather keep mum till then), wouldn't she had figured out?

3. Lastly (and this one is purely inspired by watching too much Bourne series), with not even a whisker on his face, Cooper should be a man of immense confidence and knew he could blend in. In the sense, he wasn't just pulling it off. An NWA employee, current, previous, ever ... exactly how he solved the equation of going unnoticed? or Worse running into them?
I think this may also be coming from the FBI statement "if you are planning to go back to work on Monday ..."

Get real, one can't!

By disposition doesn't he seem like someone from intelligence / spy kinda background? Someone who got trained by system and then played it ...

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Let me help, Thou-Thingy:

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'Lyle is actually a nice man - but he did approach the subject of Kenny because he thought it would make a good movie. According to what he told me he was watching a program & about Cooper and decided his brother made a good suppect....his letter was sent to a produce & not to the reporter as first claim. I asked him to repeat this 2 times in our conversation & I repeated it back to him.

(First, I would shoot me in the head if the quote & my reply do not show separately this time ... it gets too confusing without it ...even for me)

Anyways honestly your conviction on KC kinda makes me both wonder and nervous.

I am also a non believer that KC could be Cooper, however you have researched the subject and I am curious to read the reasons why you place him so high.

Besides here are my reasons for why I do not believe it was KC:
1. Maybe I am placing too much importance on FBI, which obviously has taken the "my way or highway" approach by declaring and insisting that Cooper died in the jump (despite McCoy & several others surviving similar feats) than humbly accepting that "this one we just couldn't crack". So as far as credibility goes may be I shouldn't place so much on them however like you said they are the "entity" in the matter and thus they do matter.
Anyways, to solve this is not a choice to FBI (or at least so I hope), if KC were to be Cooper, why would one has to go to the lengths which you already have and more, to prove such to FBI?

2. Wouldn't Florence, Tina, Mitchell or someone would've recognized him? Someone stated on shutter's that your book says that Tina & KC flew together (I have questions around that too however I have not read your book yet so I rather keep mum till then), wouldn't she had figured out?

3. Lastly (and this one is purely inspired by watching too much Bourne series), with not even a whisker on his face, Cooper should be a man of immense confidence and knew he could blend in. In the sense, he wasn't just pulling it off. An NWA employee, current, previous, ever ... exactly how he solved the equation of going unnoticed? or Worse running into them?
I think this may also be coming from the FBI statement "if you are planning to go back to work on Monday ..."

Get real, one can't!

By disposition doesn't he seem like someone from intelligence / spy kinda background? Someone who got trained by system and then played it ...

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RobertMBlevins

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Yo, A-K Thingy, I don't get it. Who is Loki, and what does he/she have to do with my sex life?

BTW: I'm not into habibs, you know, the Islamic scarf thingy that Muslim women wear.

Yo? Are you like a gangster now or something? Look, Bruce...not to be picky but 'habib' is an Arabic word meaning 'sweetheart,' or it is used as a surname by many Arabs.

A 'hajib' is what you probably refer to. That's the scarf. Or maybe a chador, a shaylar, etc. all the way to the traditional burka. But not a 'habib'. We don't want to insult any Arabs who might visit the thread. And no terrorist jokes, please.

No big deal, you almost got it right anyway.

To Thousand Things: I don't know how long you've been interested in the Cooper case, but there is a community within the people who investigate the case, or are fans of Cooper. These people inhabit a place I call Cooperland. And here's The Illustrated Primer on it by yours truly.

Hint to Bruce Smith: We only LOOK stupid around here.

"Sometimes a newbie comes aboard with innocent questions, but they don't usually stay long." ....me being one ... ROFL

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365 days in a yr. The letter is dated Nov. 24, 1978.

What the fricking hell does that letter have to do with Cooper. Just the date the company acknowedged Kenny because he did not attend an earlier function...

I have had such presentations mailed to me when I did not attend the function.

I guess some of the things I presented are just as illogically connect as that notification! You STRETCH things that are OBVIOUSLY not connected at all.

If you were NOT selling a book or a movie then I might have more interest is connecting the dot....What you are doing makes a good story - but it is fiction built around a suspect.

It is individuals who have maintained their GUY was Cooper in the past - who do NOT have the money or means to continue the research....that have been ignore or the FBI did a white wash on.

Those seeking financial gain stay in the public with books on line or in print.

I have REAL CONVICTIONS & lived with a suspect & the suspect confessed & his history takes him to WA on multiple causes with his hidden Jefferson photo under a name the FBI was NOT looking for in 1971 - match.

We are ignored:(
Compare the Cooper composite with the picture of Weber as John Collins...
THE EYES JUST ARE DEAD ON AND THE MOVEMENT OF THE MOUTH THE WITNESSES EXPLAINED IS OBVIOUS IN THE JEFFERSON PHOTO because of the mouth and chin which is tilted downward and missing teeth. With a cheap prothestic & raising the head to match other composites of Cooper - YOU cannot Deny - closest match ever!

NOT one source with the FBI has mention that one specific word

ASCARD!

Did Cooper use ASCARD in his conversation with Tina?

Why does the picture of the little girl from Minnesota - in the Cook Book Duane coveted so much LOOK like Tina? Is that an actual picture of Tina?
If the photo in the book is Tina then
WHY did Duane have a photo of Tina as a child?

Did the FBI hide Tina ALL of these yrs OR did she have to seek the solace of the convent - to have some privacy? I believe it was her only escape & a place she could feel SAFE.

Why I believe Tina contacted me. She wanted me to move forward with my life
because she saw me as a victim as much as she was. She really didn't want the case be open and cause more intrusion in her life....but then others found her AFTER I did. I hope she does NOT think I shared her information....the only clue I dropped was to Galen and all I said was "Start with her divorce in CA".

I did not start in CA with the divorce records - I started with her actual address in 2002 - but NOT one time did I intrude the way Bruce and Galen have done - stipping her of what she built for herself - her image in the area and her career that was satisfying.

Now you guys are trying to rip apart a local new article and slam and say awful things about Tina - calling HER a liar - regarding the history made available.

Bruce and others - did it EVER OCUR to you guys that there is a LIMIT to the damages you will be allowed to inflict
Did Tina get fed up & just want to be left alone - I think so? She wanted her life to Count for Something.

She had NO children & her marriage failed. The Cooper incident haunted her and at the same time she turned to GOD and ask him to quide her and to give her strength. the story seeker always contacting her actually put her at jeopardy.

These recent vultures on the internet have exposed her & even attack her statement about where she was & when. Hell, I can't get the dates right either - it makes no difference - she nor I are human walking or talking calendars.

As for BRUCE he needs to BACK off on the vulgarities regarding Tina and the negative crap...RESPECT HER & her privacy - she deserves that much.
Leave her alone & stop over thinking ever word printed or what she is reported as stating.

Bruce how many errors have you made getting someone's history correct & this includes your own history? If we are not young & not going around filling out applications for assistance or job applications - hell I would not be able to tell you what yrs I lived where or there or nowhere.

OTHERS Like U & Marla & Multiple others have CLOUDED the investigation regarding any investigative methods the FBI could or would have used to close the case.

I will add myself to the above list because I know others will pipe in and suggest the same.

My story - which I am unable to write, is about a man the I spent 18 yrs with and another 18 yrs trying to understand who this person really was.
That is 36 yrs of my life and like Tina I am fed up with this. She has been hounded for 43 yrs - she needs some privacy...

Bruce I did not see the photo, but u guys mention she had gained weight.
DID IT OCCUR TO YOU that stress causes weight gain and also she has reach that stage in life our body do not produce the hormone to help keep away the wrinkles and the dryness older individual have.

Also did you consider depression because you invaded her privacy.

Often we resort to eating at a time in our lives due to stress and also there are medication that cause someone in her 60's to gain weight. She is nearing retirement - perhaps that is why she decided to remove the veil. She can retire and disappear again...and I expect that might be the way it will go.

She probably has a stress problem caused by your rude ass showing up at her door and then finding you creeps had been taking - photos of her. She is not a movie star that flaunts herself - she is an everyday person & deserves to be left alone.

This suspect confessed he was Dan Cooper before he died and he told the person a lot of the details - BUT, she didn't know what he was telling her about.

If he said D.B.Cooper - and I had grasp what he meant - the media would have been notified...but while he was in the hospital....my mind did NOT click in the hospital I was staying with him almost 24/7


At that time Dan Cooper and jumping out of plane didn't mean one thing to me.

IF he was trying to tell me something just for the hell of it - why did he not spell it out.

"I'm D.B. Cooper and I jumped out a 727 on Nov. 24th 1971 - please call a notary or get an officer to the hospital to take my statement".

I guess he tried but, I guess I did not get it. I know Jim came to see him - so maybe Jim retrived whatever it was----these two knew each other from some other place - Jim was supposedly a AL officer of law but, do not know what it was. County sheriff or a town sheriff - I just never paided any attention to that.

He & Duane were friends & I was ALWAYS working - such is the life of an insurance agent. Thought the real estate might be better - but there are so many unreputable agents it is hard to deal with it and U can get sued at the drop of a hat.

This is the SAME man who sat the Tallashasee set-up in 1990 while Duane flew to Omaha, NB with his John Collins drivers license and RETRIEVE the contents of a safe deposit box there.

The DAMN FBI refused to check it - they Would have found if he had a box in 1980 and if he closed it prior to May 1, 1990 and he may have paid it forward or moved it.

The FBI could have done this a few yrs ago. As it stands the BANK I believe no longer exists and/or changed hands. I expect the box content went to auction & NO one knew what the contents meant. He may also have removed all of the content. The FBI REFUSED to help me in regards to the John Collins AKA when I told them there was an acct in that bank I thought was Duane's.

What was left in it was valued at less than 2000. Now if those 20 dollar bills with serial numbers matched the list put out - their value now would be - many times that - it would be a historical find....in 1990 no one was checking 20's!

I had to a laugh on this - Ha Ha Ha out loud and then the irony of that hit me & I go balistic.....

I did not find out about that box until it was closed & sold...usually if it is money they have an acct they deposit to. Probably nothing unusual about 100 - 20's to them. They probably never looked at the serial numbers - it was just stacks of bills.

How many bills did the bank bundle in each band? I do not know the answer to that - was it 100 or 50 or more?

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NMIWrecks

When Dick Lepsy disappeared on October 29th of 1969, the safe (see attachment) at the grocery store he managed was found to be "jammed shut". A locksmith was called and when the safe was finally opened, an audit revealed $2000 was missing. A couple days later, Lepsy's station wagon was found at an airport, which is located an hour from his home, unlocked with the keys in the ignition. Lepsy was never seen or heard from again.

Dick Lepsy has been described by family members as being around 6 feet tall, around 180 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes. Over the years, family members noted a similarity between the FBI Cooper sketches and Dick Lepsy, but never pursued the issue because of the fragile condition of his wife, Jackie.

Lepsy's case was featured on the Sally Jesse Raphael Show in 1986, 17 years after his disappearance and 15 years after the skyjacking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbKZsQfzDSo

Authorities claimed Lepsy's destination was Mexico. Images comparing Lepsy with the FBI Cooper sketches are attached below.

I forgot to mention that half a pack of cigarettes were found on the dash of Lepsy's unlocked station wagon.

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"Sometimes a newbie comes aboard with innocent questions, but they don't usually stay long." ....me being one ... ROFL

I was a newbie once.

Now look at me - Cooper royalty!

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Tough loss. Congratulations to New England. Now I know how they feel losing half of their Super Bowls.

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Every time I read postings by certain
individual & now how they twist thing.
Let if be known that the new Generation will know nothing, but Myths.

Seems like some individuals have to defend themselves by creating myths - to reconstruct this 43 yr old crime.

Most of the concepts by certain individual is to twist or redirect the investigation or stall it all together.

I have encountered some really twisted things with this & some individuals set
on changing the fact regarding Cooper. Attempts to change the facts are the most difficult to over come.

Too many wannabe writers and egos involved - for the truth to ever be recognized or acknowledged.

I have one wish I would like to come true.
Tina and I have lived pararall lives trying to be normal in a world that thinks they can controll the results of happenings.

The co-pilot knows that the one thing I want most is to meet with the individuals still surviving that actually saw or assisted Cooper.

I have a life to live and so does Tina. Hopefully before I die she & I will meet face to face and when we do - we will know.

I am tired of trying to tell individuals the truths and you know Tina did the right thing or someone did it for her - to just start her life over...

It is too late for me to start my life over, but if I knew what I know now & had the money - I would have been to WA & I would have done what that girl Marla did about her Uncle.

I should have forced the issue in 2000, but I do not like cameras and I freeze up if I see a microphone or a camera.

Individuals who left this thread and those who have passed thru - I wish you
well, but Weber was Cooper. My words have been twisted by others over the yrs. and these individuals twist the truths, but what is their motive?

Why lie about your past & pretend to be someone else...I came to this thread with MY name & I had NOTHING to gain other than hoping to find the information and comfirmation.

The comfirmations have been known to me for yrs.

But it was my decision to do this and it has worked - except certain other individuals got caught in the Web on Cooper.

This is the only site ever to exist that exposed more facts and truths about the case than has ever been known to pass thru one site or book and probably more than the FBI files.


Weird concepts stepped in & muddied the waters. Time is slowly robbing me of my memories so I guess the myth makers will win.

Remember this about Jo if you remember nothing else. Jo Weber is NOT a liar and she does or did have an excellent memory and no lies have been told by me about Weber/Cooper. We all know when the thread grew I played with the theories and tried to explore the possibilities...but, it always came back to the facts of the case.

What is my last wish - to actual meet Tina and to share with her our experience and to show her some things. Yrs ago when I contacted her I did not have the Jefferson composite and the other information I now have. I just want a one on one with her in the comfort of my own home. What we discuss will remain private.

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RobertMBlevins

***I personally spoke with Lyle 4 times and the conversation regarding what I wrote is the truth - the WHOLE truth & nothing, but the truth so help me GOD!

Lyle has played a cruel game with you Blevins and he just thought it would make a good story - that was his words.

And it did make a good story. But maybe it wasn't only a story. Perhaps Lyle Christiansen just realized a possible truth, and then inquired about it.

You have this and that. But here's the reality:

1) We can prove Kenny Christiansen and Bernie Geestman disappeared on the week of the hijacking.

2) There is good evidence suggesting that there were financial transactions involving both these men within months of the crime that Kenny could not afford, including a five thousand dollar cash loan to Bernie's sister that enabled her to move from Bernie's house along with her four children. And that Geestman lied in his statements about that loan.

3) We have a solid witness (a member of Geestman's family) who will testify to the Seattle FBI that she saw Christiansen constructing the phony bomb used in the hijacking.

4) We can prove Kenny Christiansen bought his house in Bonney Lake shortly after the hijacking from the same couple where Bernie Geestman served as Best Man at their wedding.

5) We can prove that Margaret Geestman, ex-wife of alleged accomplice Bernie Geestman, sold her ranch up in Twisp, WA for nearly a half-million dollars in cash and vanished after I did seven interviews with her...where she points to Bernie as the accomplice in the hijacking. She got the money from Washington State's Fish and Game Department, and instructed her lawyer and the bank officer who handled the sale to keep quiet.

6) We can prove that Bernie Geestman's own sister Dawn Androsko identified the tie tac seen in the FBI's photo as one she had seen Christiansen wear prior to the hijacking. And that she and some of her friends suspected clear back in 1972 that Christiansen was the hijacker but dismissed it later because they considered him a nice guy.

7) We can prove with witness Helen Jones of Sumner, WA that Christiansen smoked Raleigh cigarettes.

8) We can prove that when Bernie Geestman appeared on the History Channel show Brad Meltzer's Decoded that he lied on two key issues, and then threw Kenny under the bus, saying he could be the hijacker because he looked just like him.

Blah, blah, blah. I could go on but it is late here and I am supposed to be out of here and to the Olympics in the morning. These things are only a small bit of what we will be presenting to the Seattle FBI.
Along with Lyle Christiansen's DNA profile, to compare to the partials they now have from the tie left behind by the hijacker. And to anyone who says 'Christiansen didn't work for Northwest Airlines,' or 'He wasn't a paratrooper,' just see the attached photos. I think we have our guy, although it has not yet been confirmed.

There's a lot here to take issue with, but let's start with number 7. For the benefit of those who may not have been here, or just simply may not remember, the subject of Kenny and his preferred brand of smokes isn't as cut and dry as some make it out to be. You say that through Helen Jones you can "prove" that KC smoked Raliegh cigarettes. But the truth is that she originally said he smoked Camels. I would question the validity of such "proof", but so goes the whole KC saga. If anyone wants to see how the whole Raliegh cigarette proof came about, it's around page 1460 on this forum. Farflung had some interesting thoughts on it:
"So Helen Jones (her real name) is an awesome source because she said that Kenny smoked Camels in her ‘original interview’, which was a general bio on some Northwest purser with an unknown author. Weird, but my suspension of disbelief hasn’t been pressed into an Atomic Wedgie yet.

Since Helen Jones is not a three alarm wacko, she goes home and thinks about this interview which she was “sure on this point” until she wasn’t sure on the point. Then she….. picked up the phone…. No, no… she hacked out a brief email that said ‘It was Raleighs NOT Camels, sincerely Helen”; nope not that either. This banal piece of information about some obscure person and the brand of cigarettes he smoked somehow grew to epic levels, while she was fermenting at home. It’s off to the Bat-shit-crazy-mobile and a drive to Bonney Lake where there is video being shot, this must be fixed! But she didn’t know this was about DB Cooper? Ummmm….. now my suspension of disbelief isn’t so happy anymore.

Does every Cooper story have to be packed with drama and behaviors which only exist on TV or in the movies? I mean really, who drives to Bonney Lake to change the brand of smokes? It is pure BS."

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3110098;page=1460;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

"They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider

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The question, and I think it's a fair one, is why did she drive to Bonney Lake to correct her answer and why did she feel the topic of Kennys brand of smokes was so important as to justify the drive?

This just doesn't pass the smell test and I have a hard time calling it "proof".

"They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider

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RobertMBlevins

I'm not trying to 'prove' that Kenny was the hijacker . . . . .

And I am frankly T-I-R-E-D of chasing this thing around.

So they [the FBI] get this updated report and what they will do with it I haven't a clue. But my investigation into one Kenny P. Christiansen and his buddy Bernie Geestman is over. If the FBI can't figure out the truth based on this report, then I cannot help them any further.

For crying out loud...I even give them a witness who says she saw Kenny making the frickin' bomb. What do they want?

I don't know where she [Margie Geestman] and that half-million bucks ran off to.

Blevins, By your own previous admission, you are only investigating KC and not DB Cooper. Consequently, your claim that you are not trying to prove that KC was Cooper is, by itself, a contradiction of terms. And that assumes that you are actually trying to prove something in the first place.

The FBI apparently figured out the truth about KC long before they received your first "report". And the truth is obviously that KC was NOT Cooper.

A teeny bopper who witnessed something (anything!) and is now relying on a 43+ year old memory may not be the best witness. Had she ever seen a bomb prior to the claimed event? Has she seen a bomb since the claimed event?

Margie's wise decision to tell her banker and lawyer to not give you her address may well be the main reason why she probably still has her money.

Dream on!

Robert99

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RobertMBlevins

In fact, Margie knew at our last interview that it was the LAST interview and I would not be contacting her again.

Blevins, By your own admission, you DID try to contact Margie again through her banker. When he wouldn't give you her current address you indicated that she could be located after a few utility bill cycles and you named your favorite service for finding such information.

Robert99

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RobertMBlevins

I never ASKED for her current address, Robert99. I respected his position on that.

Blevins, How could you have known the banker's position on revealing Margie's address UNLESS YOU HAD ASKED HIM?

Robert99

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BruceSmith

Tough loss. Congratulations to New England. Now I know how they feel losing half of their Super Bowls.

Seahawks are 1-2 in Super Bowls now.

That's not as good as losing half.

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Robert99

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I never ASKED for her current address, Robert99. I respected his position on that.

Blevins, How could you have known the banker's position on revealing Margie's address UNLESS YOU HAD ASKED HIM?

Robert99

I agree with you on this Robert99 - as the proclaimed writer about KC - his records and statements do conflict regarding much of this revolving around Mrs. Geestman.

Why would one loose touch with one of his KEY witnesses or contributors to the "facts" he claims were such as told to him.

I expect she is deceased as the differences in her pictures indicate she was as I am succumbing to age & the conditions that plague the elderly.

I believe she is in CA if she is still alive and in a senior center near her son.

That is all my source could find. Because the phone number to an individual who had the same name & appropriate age as her son, we believe that is or was her location...perhaps it is time to search the obits in CA. As for nursing homes - that I can assure you goes NO where.

More than likely the family made the decisions for her & the fact the attorney paid the final electric bill (if true) is an even stronger indication of this.

I do know a little about matters such as this - simply because I have buried 2 husbands & now the father of my children is deceased as of last wk.

So I have out lived 3 husbands & the next obit is mine....as it stands now that is a given.

Duane was my second husband & a fantasic father to the daughter who remained with me. She loved him, I believe more than she loved her father....her memories of Duane are all good and positive. Not so

Duane was a great father & a good husband

I spent the wk end pulling old family photos to be used at the memorial for the father of my daughters...they went out monday. I hope their father found peace & that he has been forgiven for all of his transgression against others.

He never told me he was sorry about anything...multiple infidelities. Fidelity is the most important factor in a marriage.

Considering the Duane's past, one would expect him to have been the floundering spouse. Duane honored our marriage vows.

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BuckwheatFlower

***Tough loss. Congratulations to New England. Now I know how they feel losing half of their Super Bowls.

Seahawks are 1-2 in Super Bowls now.

That's not as good as losing half.

You are right again, Bucky!

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RobertMBlevins

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I never ASKED for her current address, Robert99. I respected his position on that.

Blevins, How could you have known the banker's position on revealing Margie's address UNLESS YOU HAD ASKED HIM?

Robert99

What the hell is it with you?
. . . . .

To answer your question...

When I heard Margie sold the property, I thought something had happened to her. I called up the bank guy and said I had heard about Margie selling her ranch and WAS SHE OKAY.

. . . . .

Then he told me, "Yes, she's fine. But I can't tell you where she is or anything. She requested her present location be kept a secret."

I told him no problem . . . . .

I never contacted him again.

. . . . .

You don't deserve the respect of a real answer. But I gave you one anyway. God grant me patience with people like you.

Blevins, In your post #57110 above, you state that after talking to her banker, you contacted Margie's former utility company to get a copy of her last utility bill which was paid by her lawyer.

Was there something on that utility bill that told you how Margie was doing health wise and financially or was it just her forwarding address that you were looking for?

You did tell her banker previously that her not wanting you to know her forwarding address was "no problem".

Is it just me or is your whole KC story, and its spin offs, full of baloney. And you did not give me a real and believable answer.

Robert99

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RobertMBlevins

Why do you want to know about Margie Geestman's final bill? What interest does this hold for you? You've stated repeatedly you absolutely do not believe the possibility that her good friend Christiansen was the hijacker. So why do you ask these things? I would also point out (again) that Margie's request to these people was not directed specifically at me, but to ANYONE who asked. You keep insinuating otherwise.

I requested the utility bill to see if she moved at the same time as the ranch was sold, or earlier. I wanted to know if it was closer to the release of the Decoded episode on Christiansen, the release of Gray's book and my book, etc.

I was looking for a possible motivation for the move. She was running that place just fine the last time I saw her in October 2010, and she had told me several times that she had offers previously and would NEVER sell. She intended to retire there. Then suddenly she sells, and not really a whole long time after the shit hit the fan on Christiansen. She undoubtably saw the Decoded episode on him because my last interview with her was done during a break in filming. I told her the show would air in January.

Then she is gone and telling her lawyer and the bank guy to not tell anyone her present whereabouts. Along with nearly a half-million bucks from Washington State Fish and Game. Those are not 'made up' things, Robert99. They are facts. It was obvious that SOMETHING triggered her to do this. And this is a woman who pointed to her ex husband as an accomplice in the Cooper hijacking in multiple interviews. You think I expected her to tell me these things? It was a big surprise, I assure you.

I think she left because of the books and the TV show, and the fact that her ex-husband went on national television and basically threw Kenny under the bus. She had almost a morbid fear of the FBI as well. It was one of the reasons I could never get the details of the hijacking from her. I didn't really push her too hard on that. She was also the one who put me onto Helen Jones down in Sumner, who verified many of the things Margie had claimed about what the two men did the week of the hijacking. And these women had not communicated in more than fifteen years.

You SURE ask a lot of questions about the investigation into Christiansen for someone who doesn't believe a word of it. Maybe you think I just made everything up into a 100-page phony report for the Seattle FBI? Naming names, providing transcribed statements, giving phones, emails, addresses of the witnesses? I don't care what you believe. It's not you I'm trying to convince of anything. That would be the Seattle FBI.

Tell you what. You can believe what you wish. We move forward, whether you like it or not. Super Bowl is over, camping trip is over. I will start printing up copies of the report this weekend.

Blevins, My simple question is why are you so interested in Margie's personal life which, quite frankly, is none of your business?

Why do you feel better qualified to look after her interests than her lawyer and banker?

Margie was obviously trying to get some people out of her life and that includes you.

Do you know the meaning of the word harassment?

Robert99

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You guy can have it. I have better thing to do right now - like trying to survive.

We all KNOW KC was not Cooper, but one would thing some of you are afraid that the
FBI will investigate this stuff.

THEY are not investigating any thing Cooper related unless one of the 20's or the ticket is presented.

Frankly I don't give a damn - all I want to do is stay live and sane @ the same time.

It has been cold & raining all day & I had to drive is the crap. Very tired & tomorrw won't be a better day - I have to go thru it all tomorrow.

Good luck in making any advances with the stuff provide here or at that other place - they are all bias.

All I have ever been able to tell is what I was told & what I was shown.

My information come from the above along with some things I found by myself & some with the help of others.

All of this has been so distorted it is ridiculous. Regardless of what happens to me in the near future - know this - Jo has not lied. The only thing I am quilty of is following some of the theories along with the rest of you.

Good Luck to all of you in your pursuit & I hope one of you solves the case while I am still among the living & able to comprehend what I read & what has been said.

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RobertMBlevins

Do you think I would just drive 250 miles each way for an interview on a 'maybe'? I only did that the first time and she readily agreed to talk to me.

So you're saying you wouldn't do that, but then you say you did do that? I'm confused.

"They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider

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RobertMBlevins

Robert99 says in part:
For Mark Bennett: Saw your recent post(s) at the alternate site on Margie Geestman and Helen Jones. You are mixing them up badly. If you wish, you can quote over your post and I will make the corrections for you. But you're getting mixed up on who said what, etc. No big deal, just thought you should know. I could do it myself, but the truth is I don't quote stuff directly from there anymore. Last time I was there though, I noticed Georger still copies over a great deal of my entries at Dropzone and makes his usual hateful remarks. Glad he's Shutter's problem now.

Yes, thank you. I believe I did combine the Helen Jones and Marge Geestman stories. The point I was trying to make was that the witnesses to think Kenny was involved. I still believe that, but I don't want to misstate the facts to make that point. I stand corrected and I appreciate the clarification.

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None of you know what probems are.
I am fighting the battle of my life & you guys are bickering over all of this stuff.

Blevins - I know most of your story is contrived, but at least you are nice with your replies.

None of you seem to be able to move on at all. You just bicker & repeat the same old things.

All I am fighting for right now is to survive ....I could use a set of arms to hold me & tell me everything is going to be alright....

Was just checking in. I never know when I make a post if it will be my last one. This old heart cannot take anymore. I have severe injuries caused by the so call medical system now.

Seem as though when a senior needs a minor surgery the Drs. try to turn it in to a major surgery.

The Drs do not want to accept the reduced payment Medicare pays now. So the Dr.s want to kill off the old folks...not enough money in it...so they experiement with the eldery.

What a Dr. did to me several months ago will now probably make my life useless - or I won't survive the surgeries. Three surgeries and then it is a toss up - which on come first?

Arm, gut and heart. Right now I need a pair of arms to hold me tight & to calm my fears. I miss my guys.

Duane Weber was D.B.Cooper aka Dan Cooper. Be ASCARED of the truths.

There has been too much cover up on the Cooper case - too many secrets. ASK yourself why the FBI has NOT been forthcoming with all of the information & why they allow it to continually be twisted....and allowed the facts to be distorted?

I am ASCARD just as Duane was when he jumped that night in 1971.

OLE RAG head Bruce should have used his contact with Tina to the best advantage. EX: First hand knowledge of her reaction of certain phrases & words.

If Bruce had approached Tina with "I was ascard to knock on your door, but I want to know if you remember what I told you that night in Nov of 1971?"

Or - "Thank You for your words of Comfort - I was ascared & I kept my promise to do good ."

Or -" I kept your book of stories & used it as I promised."

Tina's story is going to come out - you think? Perhaps she is going to captalize on the story for her retirement....when the Crew tells WHAT REALLY HAPPENED!

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skyjack71

Duane Weber was D.B.Cooper aka Dan Cooper. Be ASCARED of the truths.

Jo, As you, I, and everyone else knows, Duane Weber was NOT D.B. Cooper. And it is NOT the FBI who is twisting things but, instead, it is someone posting on this thread.

I think someone once said, "The Truth will make you free." Are you "ascared" of being free?

Robert99

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OLE RAG head Bruce should have used his contact with Tina to the best advantage. EX: First hand knowledge of her reaction of certain phrases & words.

If Bruce had approached Tina with "I was ascard to knock on your door, but I want to know if you remember what I told you that night in Nov of 1971?"

Or - "Thank You for your words of Comfort - I was ascared & I kept my promise to do good ."

Or -" I kept your book of stories & used it as I promised."

Tina's story is going to come out - you think? Perhaps she is going to captalize on the story for her retirement....when the Crew tells WHAT REALLY HAPPENED!

Ole rag head? Me?

I'm not sure what it means, but I think it's better than being called "Fat Boy," or "Stinky."

I'm not ascaird of telling Tina that I'm "ascaird of knocking on her door," but I am ascaird that Bobby might think I'm harassing witnesses again. Gawd knows that I don't want to do that ever, ever again!!!