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Yea, you are right. Try to stay objective, but then lapse back in the Old Woman /Fighting FBI Sydrome.
Gets frustrating!

No I didn't do a book - I wanted MORE evidence. Perhaps if I had done a Book, Blevins nor Twisty Butt would be touting their wares...but I refused to let someone make up a lot of shit and I turned down a movie option for the very same reason.

If I had tried to do that - the media would have destroyed me - because I go all over the place and that makes me very very difficult to follow. Why I chose the path I have - to just keep on keeping on and coming to the DZ to learn more about the things I needed to know - to find out what other had to say.

By the way I have absolutely NO REGRETS about the yrs I have spent on this thread - Closure was my goal and of course and to prove he was Cooper. I known with all of heart and soul that Duane Weber was really DAN COOPER! I stood my ground, but I have lost the battle - only because I probably won't be around to see the ending. 17 yrs is a lot of time and my health has paid the price.

Need to put his ashes in WA, but someone else will have to do that for me!
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Look forward to next week's article.

Here is the first article of the series: http://tctrib.com/2013/06/10/the-d-b-cooper-skyjacking-legend-took-flight-out-of-pdx/
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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*** He, like anyone else, must judge for themselves.

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Got anything on the gum wrappers collected at Reno?

Yes. Your username at Dropzone was one of the ones cloned for many of the roughly 388 filthy comments made to poor Regina's article. That whole situation was the reason I warned Finn to screen comments on his series.

So I opened one of the gum wrappers and it said this inside:

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'Make the PDF you sent to Matt Mullenberg of WordPress, the one containing all 388 comments...a public download at AB, perhaps identifying the users by their real names, if known...'



I told the gum wrapper 'no'...for now.

That was a warning, Georger. Those comments caused a lot of trouble for WordPress and Regina, who never even saw it coming. She'd never done a serious Cooper article series before. And after that, she never did again. She ended up like that girl hit by the bus in Final Destination. I actually felt sorry for her. She was forced by WordPress to delete more than 200 comments. It was either that or get her account deleted. But that's what goes on sometimes in Cooperland.

Now you and the others whose names HERE were used THERE can say someone stole your names to do so. Fine. But the fact remains none of you complained about it, either here after I brought it up (several times) or to Regina...by asking her to remove them. Kind of strange. I would have said something myself. Well, actually I did by sending the PDF to Mullenberg. He's the co-founder of WordPress and he was not happy, I assure you.

And people wonder why I'm doing a book on Cooperland. :S Why? Cause there's plenty of material.
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Huh?

Thanks for the Little Green Men in Cooperlandt report.

Your problemos are not our problemos. (Thank Christ!)

Just to be clear as mud: I was referring to chewing gum
wrappers the FBI collected when the plane landed at Reno.
I tend to stay on topic! I know that disturbs you.

Auf Wiedersehen Cooperlander.

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"Actually, it was partly YOUR problem, since YOUR name was used in many of the posts"


why does this problem continue to be a problem??? you keep acting as if this has never happened in the history of the internet? this "problem" has it continued? what year did this happen?

really it's nobody's problem except the person who runs that site. they can either monitor the comments, or simply shut them down if it's out of hand.

WHO CARES??

added:

I just went to that site. it seems to revolve around you since your name is brought up on just about every post. this makes it your "problem". not ours or DZ'S.....
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Look forward to next week's article.

Here is the first article of the series: http://tctrib.com/2013/06/10/the-d-b-cooper-skyjacking-legend-took-flight-out-of-pdx/
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Thanks Vicki -


RobertMBlevins wrote: Didn't anyone notice when I posted the link to the first article in the series about ten days ago?;)

EVickiW writes:

Frankly...Nope!!! With all the bickering and drawn out repeated posts, I did not see the link to the new article. I do not want to speak for everyone else (;)), however I find myself just breezing through and/or ignoring your posts altogether.

Below is a paragraph from the following article (linked) about people who talk too much:http://www.businesslistening.com/stop_rambling.php


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Most people will retaliate not only by being irritated and paying less attention to you, but by becoming less willing to share their own ideas and information. And with good reason: besides the wear and tear on morale it causes, time is money. Rambling can substantially multiply the time it takes to gather information and make decisions.


Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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Actually, it was partly YOUR problem, since YOUR name was used in many of the posts. And YOUR true name and identity, and basic history, are well-known, thanks to Geoff Gray.
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Actually Actually, it is NOT my problemo Pancho!

You have strayed OFF TOPIC AGAIN!

THIS IS NOT* A COMMUNITY EFFORT - THIS IS JUST YOU OFF
THE RAILS AGAIN BRINGING YOUR PERSONAL SHIT TO THIS
FORUM TRYING TO MAKE IT OUR PROBLEM!

LEAVE ME OUT OF YOUR PERSONAL SHIT WHICH I HAVE
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH - AND NO CONTROL OVER!

IT MUST GRATIFY YOU THAT YOU CAUSE ALL OF THESE
PROBLEMS FOR PEOPLE, EVERYWHERE YOU GO!

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Can only spend about 15 minutes on the computer. I did read the article Vicki posted and the other one.

Sounds like "Galen Cook". I have lots of emails I saved Cook sent me (lots).

The man said he was J.D. Finn, but he sound an awfully lot like Cook! That or he and Cook are talking.

What was all of those replies you guys talked about. This one had NO replies that I could see - but I do NOT go to those places. What I have to say I say here on DZ.

I do not expect I will be able to hang in here much longer. My heart is now creating some problems - the stress, my over-all general health and my age. Been having SERIOUS problems the last few wks - I just ignored, but last night I ended up in ER. I had been up for 23 hours when they wanted to admit me so some stress test to be done after 6AM and it was already 3:30 AM and I had been going for 23 hours. I walked OUT against medical advice, but I knew I need to rest and I could not rest there. I needed sleep and doing a stress test is very difficult with me.

I cannot do the treadmill and when the drugs were used yrs ago - I had a horrible reaction. The E.R. Dr. could NOT answer one question I asked him. I directly and specifically want to know what test the hospital Dr. would be running. He could NOT tell me. He was NOT looking at my overall healht problems - my pain was along the ribs in the back - had been for days. The exhaustion and difficulty breathing got worse and worse. My arm didn't feel right and my neck and face felt funny. This has BEEN GOING ON for about a MONTH now. About the time I saw the Jefferson Pics - I have been pushing myself hard since then - NO time to loose.

Was NOT going to spend our medicare dollars to be admitted to the hospital and then find a few hours later they would not be able to do the test. I was exhausted already. Only slept about 5 hrs, but have some packages to be mailed. I have to get those off.

I am down to the line with time and energy. If the FBI is waiting till Nov that is too late for me.

The FBI needs to "GET THE SHOW ON THE ROAD". Remember one of the things Duane said in the hospital a couple of days before he died "Let's get this Show on the road! Lets get on down road, Jo."

Not sure if I remember the specific phrase anymore. but the "down the road Jo" I never forgot because Jo and Road were sound alikes. There was pounding rain pelting the window of the hospital room at that time. He still wanted to go for a ride...and that is what he was ranting about and at that time there were lots of drugs in his system.

This has to END - It has to be OVER! NOW, not next month or in 6 months - NOW! Therefore I have put the wheels in motion to go public ONE last time - NOT sure I can do it. They will have to come to me. At least I made the first step it End it. Part of the steps are the 2 packages that go out today.
I can only afford to send 2 a wk, but will do that until the day I die.

I know Duane Weber was DAN COOPER and if the FBI has PROOF he was not - it is speak now or forever hold your piece and I do NOT mean a gun. Enlarge the PICTURE of Weber as John Collins in Jefferson. Then take the original unaltered composite of Cooper and enlarge it. Put them side by side. The use the before and after 1971 pics of Duane. The chin is all that is off. The tilt of the chin and the fact he may not have had lower at that time explain the chin.

Take the composite and stretch the chin JUST ever so slightly. The Print if off in BLACK and WHITE (gray scale). Take a charcoal pencil and sketch in the side burn and make his hair just a little bit fuller along the sides. Use pictures of Duane were his hair was longer and follow the pattern. DUANE WEBER was not just a LOOK-ALIKE, he was COOPER.

I did my own little project, but I want a FBI artist to do the same thing I did. Any of you can do it.
Just enlarge them to LETTER SIZE on the gray scale. Every line in Duane's face matches the line in the composite...hair and chin are the only things YOU have to touch.

Look at the pics of DUane before and after - there is more chin than is in the Jefferson intake.

Fricking FBI hid or didn't find the most damning thing. I think it spells COVER-UP. BUT WHY? The ability of the FBI not having brought all of this foward in 1996 when they were contacted - seems ODD!

The FBI makes themselves look badly. They did NOT investigate Duane the way the should have.
WHY?
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it's pretty obvious the whole problem revolves around you Robert. the comments are directed at you. it's Regina's problem by continuing to allow the comments to stay on there. the sTory is about KC and people went after you on that site is the way I see it. not our problem here. if you feel the need to police the Cooper sites. that's your biz.

I don't care who made them. Quade will find out in a heart beat if someone is using another account and quickly end it. Facebook and You Tube are full of trolls, account jackers etc., it's not just sometimes, it's very frequent if you read comments on either.
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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***it's pretty obvious the whole problem revolves around you Robert. the comments are directed at you. it's Regina's problem by continuing to allow the comments to stay on there. the sTory is about KC and people went after you on that site is the way I see it. not our problem here. if you feel the need to police the Cooper sites. that's your biz.

I don't care who made them. Quade will find out in a heart beat if someone is using another account and quickly end it. Facebook and You Tube are full of trolls, account jackers etc., it's not just sometimes, it's very frequent if you read comments on either.



I'll go along with your comments. I guess the reason I brought it up was because the vast majority of comments at Regina's Place were being done by folks you see here (virtually) every day. It was obvious.

Anyway...moving on...

Recently I started checking out free video conversion software because there are a lot of videos out there on Cooper, or other media files in MPEG4, or whatever formats etc. I go to PC World and look for a recommendation on free software to bring all these media files into a DVD format.

I ended up downloading the program on This Page. Works very well, and is truly free. As with all true freeware, you just have say no to...or check/uncheck the correct boxes while downloading. I tested it out by downloading an MPEG-4 newsreel file on the Atomic Age from the Internet Archive. Converted it using the free program, works great. The program will take practically any media file from any source and make a DVD out of them for you, it even includes a simple menu you can add to the DVD. Too cool.


there are dozens of those. can you download something that is not on You Tube? I've had a Tube uploader for years....
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Greetings everyone,

I have some news on Earl Cossey.

I spoke with two of his poker buddies and they have shared a few interesting pieces of information.

First, both confirm that Cossey liked to gamble and generally had a wad of cash on his person. Estimates vary from $1,500 to 50K, but this seems like a sizeable sum and one friend said he felt that Coss was a risk for being a "target."

Both individuals said that Coss "liked action," and bet often in many ways - sports, poker games, casinos. He had a friend in Nevada placing sporting bets for him as well.

One of these individuals posted at the Mountain News as "Clancy Crossroader," and we are now corresponding regularly. Clancy is actually named Steve, and he told me that he has been in contact with the KCSO, but doesn't feel that they are doing much. He asked the lead detective to give him instructions on how to advertise Coss' murder and solicit help from the card players in the rooms that Coss' frequented, but Det. Pavlovich apparently hasn't responded to Steve.

I contacted Sgt Cindi West today, the PIO of the KCSO, and she said that she has passed my information to the "major case" division at the KCSO.

Coss had a varied life according to his poker buddies. He was a handy carpenter and an accomplished electrician. He had lots of rental properties that furnished much of his income. He also worked with his son in the restoration and upkeep of these rental units.

Coss rarely talked about the Cooper case, and mostly just complained about pesky journalists.

Coss was a short guy, maybe 5'5", and he wasn't in great health in recent years.

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Robert: This Jefferson file five years before the hijacking would not prove a thing. For example, it probably doesn't say: 'Inmate was overheard planning a hijacking in five years'. The only people who would know for sure whether Weber was the hijacker are the people who were closest to him at the time of the hijacking. Not you, not me, nor anyone else.




WELL, U are so very wrong!
The 1st leads they got right after the crime came OUT of THE prison in JEFFERSON!. Two to be specific.

Remember I have been talking to the main characters for 17 yrs. In a 17 yr period of time - people slip and they say thing perhaps not meant for the general population.

I even brought this up when CARR was on this thread. He supposedly checked to see what happen to the the MS federal agents notes. A lead is turned over to an agent in that state and that agent or agents follow up on the lead. We know the orders where received, but conveniently the paper work sent to WA State or DC have conveniently disappeared - per Carr.

I want to know the names of the 2 men who contacted the FBI from the prison. Since Jefferson was the only prison Duane told me anything about & the only one I had any knowledge of. He had started dialysis and was seeing a Dr. to help him through the process of acceptance.

Remember he had tried right after going on the machine to get a DRIVER LICENSE under the name of John Collins. Well Duane pulled one on the system even with that little charade....he actually obtained a FL. State Drivers License in Fla the day before they arrested him. His attempt in one county failed and he went straight to the next county over and actually got the license.

When the FBI finally came to see me in 1997 they looked straight at that drivers license - I am sure he got copies of the contents of the found wallet - but he missed the most important thing which I later brought up to the FBI and to agent Carr. It might seem insignificant to anyone else, but if a man is arrested for trying to obtain a Fl drivers license fraudulently and a FBI agent sees one in a wallet hidden from the widow under another name - why was he not curious enough to check it out?

I also sent the FBI copies of the stuff in the wallet - I have a copy of that letter with a copy of the pictures I sent. WHY did that not get them curious about Weber. WHY did that JEFFERSON file or lack of them finding one on Weber NOT arouse an interest beyond the norm. Even the ex-wife who was married to him during this period of time - WAS never questioned about his stay in Jefferson.

Were the agents who went to see her out of CA that un-informed? Couldn't they see she was as scared as a cat on a hot tin roof!
It took me a long time to get her to talk to me. SHE was married to Duane as John C. Collins so the FBI could NOT have been that damn naive! Could they?

They never interviewed the adult children other than the one girl who was living with her mother in CA. Well, that daughter unloaded one day when her mom was not home and I called. Maybe she was just mad at her MOM at that time and told me a pack of lies. She was bitter about a son she had to give away in 1970 or 1971 (I forget now).

She was crying when she told me that the people she "gave him too" she only had ONE request that they keep one of the names she had given him...which I assure they did....I will never tell how I know this, but some day perhaps all of the sibling will meet each other. She would then many yrs later give another son that name - so his loss really meant something to her....I thought it was a very touching story and was very grateful for that conversation she and I sneaked in on her mother. I never told her mother what she told me....it seemed very private to her (why she shared it with me I will never know).

Oh, Well no one cares about the ramblings of a widow chasing the past of someone she loved and was obviously deceptive and a very good liar during the 18 yrs she spent with him. It is what it is - should I be naive enough to believe that the man REALLY LOVED me - Loved me enough to put his past in the past. But, that meant our marriage was a lie. Was I simply a shield he could use since my name was the name he used for 7 yrs of his life.

Who was I really married to? A con man who could have used me and left me broke and homeless and stranded in CO. or anyone of the other states we lived in. The man I loved and who made me feel special and cherished - I didn't really know. How did he survive all those yrs in all of those prison? What was his life like?

Back on TRACK. When he told me about Jefferson was in 1990 after the drivers license problem.... We did NOT discuss the time frame and I probably thought briefly he was referring to what he said in the dream during those first few month of our marriage....when he said he got in trouble with some boys and was in jail (I thought county jail) and that he was a kid. Obviously the 2 conversations were about 2 different prisons.

I didn't know how to respond other than to tell him I knew he had a past and it was just that a past and not what he was today. I did ask him what it was like to be in prison - what did they do with their time.

He told me they sat around and told war stories and how to pull off the BIG one. He did tell me about a couple of the inmates - pilot and veteran came up. Wonder if Vickies father was in jail at the same time as Duane in Jefferson.
Just a thing that POPPED in my mind and if I wait till later I will forget to ask it.

He told me that James Earl Ray was in prison with him that first yrs. and that he knew him...told me about his selling comics - a story which his wife from 1962 to 1972 verified because the person who provide the comics lived with her for a short period of time. The son who was only about 6 at that time did NOT remember her.
Even told me how Ray escaped.

NOTE AT THE TIME I FIRST TOLD THIS STORY I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE COOPER COMIC! I can verify that with email searches I did trying to find J.J. Mahoney and also trying to be able to talk to James Earl Ray thru the attorney. Got a lot of dated material but never got to speak with Jowers or Ray. Both died after that period of time. Also a phone call logged in my planner...at that time I had NO idea there was a DAN COOPER COMIC.

Doesn't mean anything. Duane only said Comics and foreign - he did NOT mention what kind of Comics - if he did it flew right over the Coo Coo's Nest.

We never discussed it again. If he started to talk - I just said "The past is the past - it is what we do with our lives today".

If only I had know in those days what I know now - WELL, he couldn't run because of the kidney machine - so he would just have lived his life out in prison. Our life was not easy - but I am glad I didn't know who he was. He got to live a mostly NORMAL life for the first time in his life! He would tell me other things over the next 4 yrs from time to time when they fit into the conversation - but it was never ever again about prison.

The Man with the Secrets! The Woman who loved him! I guess that just about sums it up.
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But the truth is I'm only interested in The Truth . . .



If only there was a time machine. I'm afraid that is probably the only way "the truth" could ever be known at this point.
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You could be right. I haven't a clue, and I am often busy with other stuff.

Like this: Connie Henke, the Director of Auburn Days who is now in her 28th year doing the festival, sent me a request this evening. (I'm on the Planning Committee) She asked me to convert all her Word docs on applications or info on this or that into PDF's. I finished them all in minutes. When she sees me at the next committee meeting on Thursday, I expect a hug and I will probably get it. Excerpt from the return email I sent with all the attachments:

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Hi Connie,

Next time give me something harder. (*smiles*) All Word docs converted to high-quality print PDF's. All are attached.

Here's the reason why people are complaining. Not everyone has MS Word these days, (no longer included by Microslave when you buy a computer, costs like $300 a copy) But everyone has Adobe Reader, which you can also print from. See you Thursday.

Sincerely, Robert

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We're showing 'Them,' and then a special Atomic Age newsreel I created from files downloaded from the Internet Archive via Pathe News, followed by 'American Graffiti - Special Edition,'. I may toss in 'Robinson Crusoe on Mars - Criterion Edition' early on in the day. Everything, including the food and drink, is free.



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OFF TOPIC!

Youve been off topic all day ... no two days ...

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******You could be right. I haven't a clue, and I am often busy with other stuff.

Like this: Connie Henke, the Director of Auburn Days who is now in her 28th year doing the festival, sent me a request this evening. (I'm on the Planning Committee) She asked me to convert all her Word docs on applications or info on this or that into PDF's. I finished them all in minutes. When she sees me at the next committee meeting on Thursday, I expect a hug and I will probably get it. Excerpt from the return email I sent with all the attachments:

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Hi Connie,

Next time give me something harder. (*smiles*) All Word docs converted to high-quality print PDF's. All are attached.

Here's the reason why people are complaining. Not everyone has MS Word these days, (no longer included by Microslave when you buy a computer, costs like $300 a copy) But everyone has Adobe Reader, which you can also print from. See you Thursday.

Sincerely, Robert

14 attachments — Download all attachments

5K Fun Run.pdf 5K Fun Run.pdf
152K View Download

Auburn Downtown Business Booth Application.pdf Auburn Downtown Business Booth Application.pdf
117K View Download

Grand Marshal Application.pdf Grand Marshal Application.pdf
141K View Download

Literature Application.pdf Literature Application.pdf
183K View Download

Parade Application.pdf Parade Application.pdf
123K View Download

Parade Details.pdf Parade Details.pdf
140K View Download

Parade Entry Description.pdf Parade Entry Description.pdf
92K View Download

Pioneer Queen Application.pdf Pioneer Queen Application.pdf
151K View Download

Pioneer Spirit Application.pdf Pioneer Spirit Application.pdf
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Show and Shine.pdf Show and Shine.pdf
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We're showing 'Them,' and then a special Atomic Age newsreel I created from files downloaded from the Internet Archive via Pathe News, followed by 'American Graffiti - Special Edition,'. I may toss in 'Robinson Crusoe on Mars - Criterion Edition' early on in the day. Everything, including the food and drink, is free.



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OFF TOPIC!

Youve been off topic all day ... no two days ...

Tell me that the next time you post up another Alice in Wonderland comment. You've made up my mind for me. I will drag out the projector and do one more slideshow on Kenneth Peter Christiansen. He's like a Cooper suspect and stuff, which makes this post ON topic. ;)

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No its not, You call Microsoft "Microslave" and The word
Christiansen isnt anywhere in yours above except for your
equally bizarre smartass reply.

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Check you PM's I do not give private information in the thread about others. Sorry you printed his name you could feed another Cooper fanatic, but this guy is geniunely interested in searching an area I talked about. With you putting his name out - OLD JT will be all over him and destroy any genuine efforts he might attempt. This has been a problem for yrs. The oldies in the Cooper chase seem to influence the open minds and shut them down.

They didn't SHUT YOU down and I am so very glad you could NOT be influence by popular opinion. You are a free thinker and you follow thru.
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seems he has the flight path all figured out......he thinks he does anyway B|

http://www.thereflector.com/opinion/article_10b1d26c-dd24-11e2-be94-001a4bcf887a.html

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Check you PM's I do not give private information in the thread about others. Sorry you printed his name you could feed another Cooper fanatic, but this guy is geniunely interested in searching an area I talked about. With you putting his name out - OLD JT will be all over him and destroy any genuine efforts he might attempt. This has been a problem for yrs. The oldies in the Cooper chase seem to influence the open minds and shut them down.

They didn't SHUT YOU down and I am so very glad you could NOT be influence by popular opinion. You are a free thinker and you follow thru.



Jo, If this fellow wants to check an area that you are interested in, it must be on the east side of Portland. And nowhere close to where Cooper jumped.

So there is no point in getting excited about this.

Robert99

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Check you PM's I do not give private information in the thread about others. Sorry you printed his name you could feed another Cooper fanatic, but this guy is geniunely interested in searching an area I talked about. With you putting his name out - OLD JT will be all over him and destroy any genuine efforts he might attempt. This has been a problem for yrs. The oldies in the Cooper chase seem to influence the open minds and shut them down.

They didn't SHUT YOU down and I am so very glad you could NOT be influence by popular opinion. You are a free thinker and you follow thru.



Jo, If this fellow wants to check an area that you are interested in, it must be on the east side of Portland. And nowhere close to where Cooper jumped.

So there is no point in getting excited about this.

Robert99


It is not the East side at all. Problem is how Cooper got to the East Side. I know the route he is talking about, but there is a qich - as to how he get from Heisson to an area lower without being spoted. Seems he walked some trails to get from point a to point b and then point c along a creek, pipelines nad streams. Stayed down low. It is just a theory no one ever checked out and I frankly don't know how he got that far in one day, but it is possible. Then hides out real low in an area used by fishermen and a place most knew nothing about...then makes it to the Washougal and it was a piece of cake for there on. Jumps a rail, but get off a couple of times and then makes a phone call at a pay phone and lies low until a woman pics him up but she supposedly had man with her. Too many people to keep a secret, unless they are related in some way.

A cabin on a creek with a bend in it is where he stayed - NOW this is theory and nothing to back it up. It was not very wooded along the route, but plenty of places to lay low if anyone approached.

Couldn't make it back to a car they hid. It is pure theory if there was an accomoplice and if it was a woman - might have worked. Just something derived from things he said. He would have been walking in some deep woods alos, but if he knew the area the way he knew it in 1979 - it is possible. Had to get back to the rails going East...but afraid to say on the rails. IT is all theory and could be something he did during whatever time he spent in Wa. Involved towers and airstrips. but it would have taken him 3 days. Walked the power lines and the pipelines - probably becuase he was involved in building them.

All guesses from thing he talked about. Doesn't mean this happened when Cooper jumped, but he had done it before - hid in a park near a cemetary. Why I always thought he had a walky talky and she met him at a certain spot....logging camps.

At one point there used to rails thru there, but they take them up and move them to save money but they still leave a good trail.

ALL theory - nothing more.
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