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Don't jump to conclusions. This subject has been discussed at length here. If you thought anyone working in a machine shop was forbidden to wear a normal ever day type tie then you are mistaken.
Robert99
I did not say anything about a machine shop. I was talking a high end custom made golf shop in a high end district - VAIL or ASPEN.
I no longer have a link for he site you are referring to. I went there a few times and I never found the discussion indicated in this thread - so maybe I didn't go to the right SITE!
Please provide a link to the site.
The imprinting on the shaft of the club:
A slanted box angling to the right, with what appears to be a lightening bolt in it.
True Temper
Finest Quality
Made in the USA
Personal Model.
I believe they if my memory serves me Persimon Woods.
Jo, Just exactly how do you think golf clubs, especially the metal parts, are made? Please update those of use who haven't seen a golf club in a week or two.
Also, it might be helpful if you explained what you mean by "a high end custom made golf shop in a high end district". Do you mean high quality clubs or that the clubs were just made at a high altitude such as in Vail and Aspen?
For a link to Tom Kaye's web page, take a look at the post earlier this evening by 377, which you probably read to get the idea about the golf clubs.
Robert99
It was something in Blevins posted regarding Tom's site & maybe not on Tom's site. Yea, I found the site after I made the post.
By high end - I mean CUSTOM MADE. Please LEAVE me ALONE.
Do NOT reply to my post! LEAVE ME ALONE!
[RED]FOR YOUR INFORMATION I TOLD ABOUT THOSE GOLF CLUBS AND THE SHOP BEFORE I EVER HAD A COMPUTER AND I CAN PROVE THAT![/RED]
Have you ever owned a set of custom made Clubs? The shaft is cut for the persons build and height!
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Tom's pictures toss the Cooper tie question right out the window. Cooper's tie selection was not conclusive of his job or employment.
Robert99
In the Jurassic period of this thread you mentioned
and named a munitions test site just east of V23,
between Ariel and BTG east, where people presumably
made and tested munitions. I thought that was
possibly interesting in terms of the particles found on
the tie ?
Are you sure that was me? I didn't know there was such a facility in the Vancouver area.
Robert99
Blevins quoted this below from one of his sources:
Do you really think Blevins made that up? NO he didn't!
Quote'Oregon Metallurgical Company, known as Oremet, is one of only two companies in the United States that produce titanium sponge, the pure form of the rare metal used to produce titanium alloys for use in manufacturing. The company also forges titanium products for aerospace, medical, electronics, and other applications. Although nearly half of the company's sales in 1996 were for commercial or military aerospace applications, Oremet also was the leading provider of titanium for use in the manufacture of golf clubs, which accounted for 20 percent of sales. The Albany, Oregon-based company operates titanium metals service centers in the United States, United Kingdom, Germany, and Canada through Titanium Industries, Inc., an 80 percent-owned subsidiary. The only other U.S. producer of titanium sponge is Denver-based Titanium Metals Corporation, the industry leader...'
Do you really think Blevins made that up? NO he didn't!
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Tom's pictures toss the Cooper tie question right out the window. Cooper's tie selection was not conclusive of his job or employment.
Robert99
In the Jurassic period of this thread you mentioned
and named a munitions test site just east of V23,
between Ariel and BTG east, where people presumably
made and tested munitions. I thought that was
possibly interesting in terms of the particles found on
the tie ?
Are you sure that was me? I didn't know there was such a facility in the Vancouver area.
Robert99
Maybe it was Smokin99 ? Let me go back and find it
- I saved the post and did a Google map search at
the time and saved it ... but it interested me at the
time. Its a wild card ...
Some armor piercing shells back then had Ti and
Uranium alloy covered tips. Has anyone bothered to
see if any of those particles are 'hot' ? I doubt it.
Let me find the original post...
NO Post.
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From the ever resourceful Snowmman:
http://www.metallurgvanadium.com/titaniumpage.html
377
QuoteInteresting, reasonable source for bismuth being near
titanium:
Titanium turnings may be contaminated with lead or
bismuth, which are in the brazing alloy that is often
used to fix a boss onto a piece of titanium prior to
machining it.
http://www.metallurgvanadium.com/titaniumpage.html
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Who machines pure (non alloyed) titanium?
377
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
sailshaw 0
377
You say:
"I found the tie-tanium evidence that Tom and his crew discovered very interesting. I always wondered if it could have come from Norman's machine shop where at least two of the Cooper chutes once resided or passed through. If that's true then it probably gives no clue about where Cooper worked as it didnt come from his workplace."
I talked with Tom Kaye about the fragments on DB's tie and mentioned that the lab at Boeing that did the research for the SST airplane was in the 9-101 building on the main floor and their tub skids with throwaway metals were in the hallways. Sheridan Peterson's office was on the second floor of the same building and he had to pass the tub skids while going to his office, then to the cafateria, and going home each day. He could have easily looked into one of the tub skids and his tie would have dropped in and picked up Titanium/Aluminum machine curly cues (very small ones and not visible without a microscope). I also looked into those tub skids at times as there was always some interesting stuff being thrown away. That shop was where machining and welding processes were developed for the SST program. I believe it is highly likely that he would have drug his tie through one of the tub skids while working in the Manual and Handbooks Group on the second floor.
You mention the cirgrette butts that the FBI should find on analize for DNA. However, the DNA from under the stamps/envelope flaps of the four letters sent to the new papers following the DB Caper would blow this case wide open. "The smoking gun".
Bob Sailshaw
[email protected]
You say:
"I found the tie-tanium evidence that Tom and his crew discovered very interesting. I always wondered if it could have come from Norman's machine shop where at least two of the Cooper chutes once resided or passed through. If that's true then it probably gives no clue about where Cooper worked as it didnt come from his workplace."
I talked with Tom Kaye about the fragments on DB's tie and mentioned that the lab at Boeing that did the research for the SST airplane was in the 9-101 building on the main floor and their tub skids with throwaway metals were in the hallways. Sheridan Peterson's office was on the second floor of the same building and he had to pass the tub skids while going to his office, then to the cafateria, and going home each day. He could have easily looked into one of the tub skids and his tie would have dropped in and picked up Titanium/Aluminum machine curly cues (very small ones and not visible without a microscope). I also looked into those tub skids at times as there was always some interesting stuff being thrown away. That shop was where machining and welding processes were developed for the SST program. I believe it is highly likely that he would have drug his tie through one of the tub skids while working in the Manual and Handbooks Group on the second floor.
You mention the cirgrette butts that the FBI should find on analize for DNA. However, the DNA from under the stamps/envelope flaps of the four letters sent to the new papers following the DB Caper would blow this case wide open. "The smoking gun".
Bob Sailshaw
[email protected]
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Tom's pictures toss the Cooper tie question right out the window. Cooper's tie selection was not conclusive of his job or employment.
Robert99
In the Jurassic period of this thread you mentioned
and named a munitions test site just east of V23,
between Ariel and BTG east, where people presumably
made and tested munitions. I thought that was
possibly interesting in terms of the particles found on
the tie ?
Are you sure that was me? I didn't know there was such a facility in the Vancouver area.
Robert99
Maybe it was Smokin99 ? Let me go back and find it
- I saved the post and did a Google map search at
the time and saved it ... but it interested me at the
time. Its a wild card ...
Some armor piercing shells back then had Ti and
Uranium alloy covered tips. Has anyone bothered to
see if any of those particles are 'hot' ? I doubt it.
Let me find the original post...
"Depeleted Uranium" is used in the shells of some current ground support aircraft, such as the A-10 Warthog. They are claimed to be effective against tanks and heavy armor and are used in the A-10's Gatling Gun. Claims have also been made about health problems in personnel who handle those shells.
Robert99
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QuoteBlevins quoted this below from one of his sources:
Quote'Oregon Metallurgical Company, known as Oremet, is one of only two companies in the United States that produce titanium sponge, the pure form of the rare metal used to produce titanium alloys for use in manufacturing. The company also forges titanium products for aerospace, medical, electronics, and other applications. Although nearly half of the company's sales in 1996 were for commercial or military aerospace applications, Oremet also was the leading provider of titanium for use in the manufacture of golf clubs, which accounted for 20 percent of sales. The Albany, Oregon-based company operates titanium metals service centers in the United States, United Kingdom, Germany, and Canada through Titanium Industries, Inc., an 80 percent-owned subsidiary. The only other U.S. producer of titanium sponge is Denver-based Titanium Metals Corporation, the industry leader...'
Do you really think Blevins made that up? NO he didn't!
Jo, You continue to amaze and mystify me. Are you claiming that I said that Titanium was not used in golf clubs? If so, then you need to eat your own crow.
If you would bother to read the posts, including your own, then you might discover that the original posts related to machine shops and the machining of Titanium. Not whether it was used in golf clubs.
Robert99
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a munitions test site just east of V23,
between Ariel and BTG east, where people presumably
made and tested munitions. I thought that was
possibly interesting in terms of the particles found on
the tie ?
between Ariel and BTG east, where people presumably
made and tested munitions. I thought that was
possibly interesting in terms of the particles found on
the tie ?
Robert99
I evidently failed to save the post and the Google
map, and all searches haven't found it. Just one more
example of how impossible it's become to function
here -
I know I replied to the post. Let me search further
when I get time ... if its even worth spending time on
which it probably isn't.
Take care.
ps: cant find it. all I can find is RobertMBlevins shit.
He has so polluted this thread hardly anything is
easily searchable now. Its time to basically give up.
It no longer matters -
You could open a new column on Newsvine titled:
DB Cooper Science ! Jump start the Inevitable.