DB Cooper

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I am BACCCCKKKK!
Been in WA and OR for 15 DAYS!
Some good weather but lots of rain. Got sick for a couple of days - as I have Celiacs and it is difficult to eat out.

I got my drivers license when I was 20 yrs old and pregnant and never drove in the mountains, but I knew if I didn't do this NOW, I would never be able to do it later. I drove an Avalon 4WD Highlander for 10 days and then turned it in for a Rogue Nissan. I was scared to death of the hills, but by the 12th day I was zipping over those hills above the posted speed limit.

My only thought was " Hell if I am going to die - I will die doing what I set out to do 14 yrs ago". Determined I will NOT die with this stigma of being a liar hanging over me...and that I am not a teller of stories.

There were days I was only good for about 4 hours, but put in 7 or 8. I would crawl into the motels exhausted and sometimes crying because of the pain and frustrations of the day. I worked without a map in the Cames area, except for old ones I have had for ys. I had an OLD state map I used to get to The Dalles, Hood, Goldendale, Biggs, Rufus and other places.

I Bar Hopped! Didn't do any drinking, but found some old folks. I hit the Senior Centers and was welcomed to share their meals. I hit the Vet homes and retirement homes. I went to museums and historians....I got a lot of information...but, I will not post it in this forum since Blevins has a way of plagurizing others individuals research as his own.

In all this trip cost me over 5K I really didn't have to spend, but it was something I had to do NOW, because I knew if I didn't do it now I wouldn't be able to do it later.

What I found was FAR more than I expected to find. I was looking for resolutions - that maybe I was making a mountain out of a mole hill...but, it was the other way around! I found FAR more than I bargained for - FAR MORE.
Enough that I called the FBI and put it in their hands.

I was able to tell others what I saw and what Duane said in 1979 - but I had to place him in WA and I have done more than that. It is time for the FBI to re-investigate the past of Duane Lorin Weber. They missed something!

There are things that the FBI has NEVER told - and the individuals the FBI interviewed they dismissed ( some of these individuals are still alive and their memories are vivid). All along the path Duane took me I found those who contacted the FBI in 1971 - and told them what they saw.

Everyone of these individuals interviews where documented in 1971, but why did the FBI just ignore them? The route the plane took is clearly documented by the stories of the locals from 1971. The focus of the interviews placed Cooper over a specific route the FBI denies even to this day - but why?

My driving these area by myself helped me to find how close they were to each other. Then the shock of shocks was when I listened to 2 old women like myself - and then did a quick run. Duane had taken me North about Hockinson and this is why I could never piece that part of the trip together...suddenly the whole trip was falling into place.

I was under the impression there were only certain tracks - there are lots of old tracks. I tried to make things fit that didn't fit because Duane took me further North than I thought.

I will tell you guys that the Dam Duane took me to was NOT Bonneville, but THE DALLES and we did cross into to WA by way of the Bridge of the Gods. We spent that first night just short of The Dalles (the morning he disappeared for several hours).
I found the Antique Shop and old gas station I thought was a false memory - but it is really there. They were closed at the time we were there in 1979, but up for sale. Duane had a personal relationship with the prior owner. NOTE: Duane was not in the antique business in 1979. Duane also had a personal relationship with someone who lived near Arlington, OR.

Now the FBI can tell you the rest of the story - they have 30 days to get it right...they have 30 days and it cost me 14 yrs of my life...hardly seems fair.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Hi Jo
Hey I'll bite. (I bite whenever Blevins chums too :) )

You sound all pumped up. That's a good sign your road trip was fun and worth the money.

You ended with something enigmatic..you said

"Now the FBI can tell you the rest of the story - they have 30 days to get it right...they have 30 days and it cost me 14 yrs of my life"

What's the 30 day mention? Is the FBI going to do something in 30 days or are you or ??

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I didn't know who Emrich was. Like I've said before, I'm NOT a professional DB Cooper investigator. I'm just a guy who was asked to do some interviews, and my involvement has been less than two years.

Before that, I had no more knowledge of the Cooper case than any other Washingtonian. And to tell you the truth, I'm glad to be mostly done with it.

My next book is much more fun. I'm doing a modern-day Bonnie and Clyde tale titled Revenge Story. More entertaining than the Cooper case, I hope.

Who cares about your next book here? I mean I'm sure you're a good writer, but why pump it up here?

And I don't buy this "Oh I'm sorry" stuff. Isn't that what women always use on men?

You wrote a book and are going on the History Channel saying you know who Cooper is. And that you did it thru some great investigative work.

It's perfectly fine to lie. But don't use the "I'm sorry" crap? Just say you were lying. That's much better.

I mean, I appreciate that you spun your way onto the History Channel. Hopefully you got some bucks.

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Hi Jo
Hey I'll bite. (I bite whenever Blevins chums too :) )

You sound all pumped up. That's a good sign your road trip was fun and worth the money.

You ended with something enigmatic..you said

"Now the FBI can tell you the rest of the story - they have 30 days to get it right...they have 30 days and it cost me 14 yrs of my life"

What's the 30 day mention? Is the FBI going to do something in 30 days or are you or ??

The road trip was fearful and very very hard for me - I only drive 24 mile to the Dr. in Pensacola - so this going to WA and OR and driving was a challenge and very very stressful.

People honked their horns behind me and gave me the finger - when I could find a place to pull over - I did and let them pass. I drove with my flashers on so they would know I was having problems in the rain. Twice I had to be escorted to a hotel when it got dark and I was lost.

I met LOTS of wonderful people. They just came out of the woods and went out of their way to help me and to be nice. I now know why some people go to WA and OR and never come home. It is GOD's country. If I could afford 2 homes I would have a home in WA for the Summer and have a condo in FL for the winter. Would not have a house in FL as the grrowing season is 10 months long and therefore - the lawn upkeep eats you up.

There were times I was so tired all I could do was cry and ask for help when I didn't have the strenght to open a door. Spending every night in a different place - is stressful. I did this because I had TO do IT.

I did it and I am glad I did, but wish I had had more time to do the research that needs to be done. The FBI probably will NOT take the time to do what has to be done...but, I got it started for them. Now they KNOW were to look if they aren't wearing blinders...because they want to or have to.

A lot of it I can do from here, because of all of the contacts I made in WA and OR, but there is nothing like being there if something comes up you need to go look at it or someone you need to talk to. There was so much more I could have done had my health allowed me to have made this trip a few wks earlier. The cold and rain did hinder me getting everything done I wanted to do...I have NO closed toe shoes because I have a very expensive foot - 9 1/2 AAAA or SS. I was wearing socks with sandals (my feet got cold).

I didn't have a coat, but bought a wind breaker at the Senior Center in Goldendale. People just volunteered to help me. They didn't know I was looking for Cooper, but the past of the man I was married to for 17 yrs.

The album simply asked for help in locating this boy or this man from 1945 to 1949. To find the woman who gave birth to a child.
Only when they started to give information that was valid did I go further - only when I felt that moment of recognition and felt this person needed more information than I was providing.

Therefore most of the people did NOT know who I was or what I was looking for. I was a white headed stooped old woman on a cane - trying to reconnect with my husbands past. I was NOT looking for publicity and kept a LOW profile. One of the 3 times this was done was when one of our own joined me for a day of search and we had dinner at the Red Lion in Vancouver. In fact he bought my dinner that night after spending 2 hours to drive to Vancouver and several hours driving me around in his vehicle.

I drove us to breakfast that morning and I am sure he felt he would be placing his life in jeopardy by letting me drive us that day. His driving his truck meant we made better time and accomplished more than I would have on my own. I am sure he will tell his part of this story when he gets a chance...he had some family problems pop-up that needed his attention since then.

At his encouragement I told the waiter who I was and why I was at the RED LION in Vancouver. Since I knew I would not be back there and the waiter didn't know who the hell we were talking about - and knowing I did not want to talk to journalists or anyone else I didn't know - I was so close to the end of my trip - I gambled.

This friend from the forum really wanted to see the re-action of the waiter. Like most young people the waiter didn't really know anything about Cooper.

30 Days seemed appropriate to me. I did most of it in 13 days if you take off time for my age and not knowing my way around and getting sick...!

Do I expect anything - after 14 yrs? Do you really think I expect them to jump when I say jump? What am I going to do? I will take it one day at a time and I will repeat the same prayer I made the second night of my trip. "God, Duane, Jim - I know you guys are all up there - give me a sign this has not been for nothing and money spent foolishly?" The next morning when I went out for a smoke I found I had been escorted the night before to the Port of Cames Best Western by the local police who had found me in distress and lost.

I was lost and now I am found. I had abandoned God because of all of this and now I am found again...he answered my prayer that next morning when I saw the towers and rushed back to the desk to find out where I was. The Port of Cames had been moved East of its old location West of the towers.

After that - I let God guide me and lead me. He was with me every single day...and forgiving me when I said a bad word and he guided my every move. Without his help I could never have done what I did.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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" One of the 3 times this was done was when one of our own joined me for a day of search and we had dinner at the Red Lion in Vancouver. In fact he bought my dinner that night after spending 2 hours to drive to Vancouver and several hours driving me around in his vehicle. "

I'll guess that was SafecrackingPLF. Whoever it was, it was very nice of them. Or: Maybe it was Bruce?

(edit) I just noticed you updated your post. I'm not a God person, but I'm a big fan of whatever works for different people. Obviously, there's something good happening for you...so yeah, go ahead and share your good feeling.

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" One of the 3 times this was done was when one of our own joined me for a day of search and we had dinner at the Red Lion in Vancouver. In fact he bought my dinner that night after spending 2 hours to drive to Vancouver and several hours driving me around in his vehicle. "

I'll guess that was SafecrackingPLF. Whoever it was, it was very nice of them. Or: Maybe it was Bruce?

I wont comment except to say I think it took a
lot of courage for you to make this trip. You are
really something! Most people wouldnt venture
out alone like this. Take care. GB.

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I wont comment except to say I think it took a
lot of courage for you to make this trip. You are
really something! Most people wouldnt venture
out alone like this. Take care. GB.

Coming from you - that is quiet a compliment. With this I will say Goodnight to all. I lost 7 lbs during these 15 days...and the individual whom I spoke of in the above post will tell you I didn't need to loose weight. First time in 50 yrs I have weighed in at 120 lbs...and I am still tired.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Mr Blevins said:
"I have said all along that the Christiansen/Cooper theory is just that - A THEORY. Please do not put words into my mouth. "

Mr Blevins: You seem totally unaware (or maybe just don't care?) of how the sum total of your posts presents itself to a reader. In no way were you presenting a theory. You were shoveling crap down people's throats, regardless of feedback or questions.


I still wonder about how you judge liars. You were free to call other people liars. Like here:

Katy Watson was also caught in a BIG lie by yours truly when she tried to say that Kenny bought this lot and made his money selling off the trees BEFORE the hijacking. Porteous and I put the lie to this by checking the sales record with the timber company. "


from http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3972220;search_string=lie;#3972220

Now if this is all true, and Katy was wrong about something...why is she a liar, yet when I find you saying untrue things, you're not a liar?

I mean, what standard do you use? Why can you be "wrong" but others "lie" ??

I can dig up everything you've said and go thru each again, but why not just admit you present opinion as fact? In short, you lie.

If money was involved, it would be fraud? (remember those guys who got convicted selling a false story claiming an interview with Cooper)

Now: if you called me a liar, you'd be right!

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Mr Blevins: You seem totally unaware (or maybe just don't care?) of how the sum total of your posts presents itself to a reader. In no way were you presenting a theory. You were shoveling crap down people's throats, regardless of feedback or questions.


I still wonder about how you judge liars. You were free to call other people liars. Like here:

Katy Watson was also caught in a BIG lie by yours truly when she tried to say that Kenny bought this lot and made his money selling off the trees BEFORE the hijacking. Porteous and I put the lie to this by checking the sales record with the timber company. "

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Read this Mr Blevins and understand it for what it is:

The Book was called The Smorgasbord CookBook.
Art work done by the author.
Grand Court
Order of the Armaranth
State of New York

3000 copies were printed and I know where 3 of those copies are.

I am Tina. (Pronounced Teena)
I hope you will find my Tina Tips
helpful.

The goat is the Swedish symbol of Good Luck.

I am Seve. My sage philosopy
combines the wisdom, of many folk.

Illustrations by Gerturde E. Homberg

Recipe For Life
Refrigerators get defrosted regularyly;
how about yourself?

The baby helped snap beans today,
She saved the waste, threw good away,
I thought how patiewnt God muct be
When I help Him as she helps me.

RECIPE FOR LIFE
"Let us not love in word, neither in tongue;
But in deed and in truth," ! John 3:18.

RECIPE FOR LIFE
There are none poor but,
such as are without God.
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Duane was Cooper, but I try to tell truths in regards to what I know about him and what I have learned about him...and there will be more to come very soon.
The FBI will have to do their part of this investigation to validate the things I have found. That validation is what will make the story more convincing. Nothing I say will do this - only earnest work on the part of the FBI.

I often wonder if the FBI can really tell the truth. Are they instructed as to what the can and cannot say...and are they really investigating the Cooper leads since this is such an old case.

If this is true then the complete file should be made available to the public so we can try to solve it. If the FBI is unable to release the complete file on this 38 yr old crime - one has to ask themselve WHY?

Frankly I believe we all suspect that many things have been hidden from us - WHY?

As long as the case is not solved there will be more suspects. I wonder if the FBI was watching for those 20's to be circulated in 1979 and if any of the bills surfaced during that time around Tahoe and other places.

Surely they stopped looking for them or just looked the other way. THis shows I have no faith in the FBI. When that Palmer report showed those bills to be in the water no more than a yr. That was the time to put out alerts at the casinos. THe remaining money may have only been soiled and not in bad condition. Like the lower part of the book with the picture that was buried in the same location the money was buried in....I believe that book and picture are very significant finds.

The comparisons to Tina and the little girl are very close. Note the angle of the hair infront of the ears. This was a new factor related to me while I was in WA and OR.

Tina is near by and she maybe reading some of this now. Perhaps some of it will spark a memory of something she has lost.

I have kept this book safe in hopes she might want to claim it someday.

Tina: Remember reading this to Cooper.

It is better to say a good thing about a bad man, than to say a bad thing about a good man, none of us heeds the wise man's prayer, "may I never be caught
talking, when I shoud be only listening." !!!

You tried to get him to talk about himself with this phrase.

The one phrase you imbedded into his head was this one below.

THE MEASURE OF LIFE

Doing nothing for others is the undoing of ourselves.

He lived by that phrase for the better part of his life after he GOT it.

He was sorry he had to take your beloved book with him, but he could not erase his prints from it and placed in down in the bag with the money.

It has water damage since the lower part of his container got wet after he buried it - but the book is still a lovely book.

Truth or Fiction?
When you guys figure this one out the story will be over.

If Tina sees this the story will be over. I am only the keeper of the words and pages. I believe this book belongs to Tina.

The co-pilot wanted to know how he could obtain a copy of the book - wonder why? Besides this copy there were only 2 others in existence about 2 yrs ago. Both in the possession of the author who wondered how this book ended up in Florida. The other 2 were in her possession in another part of Florida.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Jo,


First, I am REALLY glad you made it back in relatively good condition. I last heard from you on Saturday (while visiting my Mom) and then didn't hear again. About Tuesday I decided to call you and realized that I had erased the Cell # when I did a mailbox cleanout. When you called Friday, I had been up since 02:00 AM and was too tired to do much of anything. But, I WAS relieved to hear you were home.

Now, I want to talk about something that you need to understand. Your analytical abilities (techniques) are what make everyone get in such an uproar about your assertions. It is NOT that they think you are lying. (There is one notable exception to this, but their analytical abilities aren't that great either.) Here is an “indicator behavior” of this analytical flaw that upsets everyone (yes, including me):

You accused Blevins of using information from your story in his book:

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Well, Blevins took the Mississippi one and two from the story I have told for yrs. Duane had told me about this counting method, but I had no interest in what he was talking about - Dumb Blonde Roots! I am not even sure I knew he was talking about jumping...it has been lost to time and from my memory.

(Not that I am defending Blevins, he has his own "cross-to-bear") But, there are two common techniques to count off seconds when no clock or stopwatch is available (There are probably more as well). Some say “one-thousand and one, one-thousand and two…” others say “one Mississippi, two Mississippi…”

This technique is used in many endeavors, X-Ray Techs counting exposure time, Dark-room Techs counting bath times, Cops counting intervals between two markers to estimate speed or following distance, I used it recently to determine the distance of a lightening strike (by measuring the approximate time from flash to thunder). So, it is a COMMON technique. Therefore Blevins most likely wasn’t even thinking of your (Duane’s) story when he wrote that scenario.

When seeing it in Blevins’ book, you should have first asked: “How common is this technique?” The answer would have led you to never assuming it was stolen from your story.

As I said, this is just an “indicator behavior” that represents a mindset, a mindset that causes you a great deal of grief.

Jo, you have just completed a challenging quest. One that caused many people (who don’t even know the real difficulties you faced) to express admiration for your fortitude. If they knew the whole story, that admiration would double. You showed that you could rise to a challenge and be victorious. So now, I challenge you to learn to use standard analytical techniques, based on logic not emotion. If you do, you’ll find less criticism and more support.

Again:
Jo you amaze me, I never thought you would do it. AND, you did it YOUR way. When I offered to accompany you (last Spring) and you declined, I thought that decision was “wrong-headed”. Now, I understand… you needed to do it on your own. I WAS WRONG, and I’m not ashamed (or hesitant) to admit it! I know it cost you a lot of money, but that may be the best $5k you ever spent when it comes to your “peace of mind”.

As we say in the Deep-South, “You done good-‘n-all”.

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Blevins wrote:

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A person who had jumped more recently might have selected the larger sport chute.

My recollection is that the Paracommander sport canopy is smaller than the military C9. It is a lot more maneuverable though.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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Hi Jo,

you include a lot of things in your posts, which make them interesting to say the least...

buried in one above, you said:

Like the lower part of the book with the picture that was buried in the same location the money was buried in....I believe that book and picture are very significant finds.

Where was this book buried? I don't think you've said the book was buried before? What do you mean by "same location"...If it was buried, how did you get it? and when?
Or are you talking about some other book?

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If Cooper was a 1943 era paratrooper, who had only done the minimal set of qualifying static line jumps, and then decided to freefall out of a 727 in 1971 with modern gear, with no prior experience, with a rig that had a modified outboard right hand pull, it's interesting that when offered instruction on how to use it, he apparently rebuffed the offer.



Now this may all be "not true". But: if KC planned this, and was calm, cool and collected because of his paratrooper experience (which still appears to be just the minimal set of training jumps)....well, KC was pretty Cool Hand Luke, and my hat is off to him.

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#3 - In two separate and unrelated interviews, both 'Dawn' and 'Helen', who knew Kenny well, said they suspected from the start that Kenny was the hijacker.

A: From the start of what? Is there proof they ever talked about it together?


And like the people Christiansen worked with at the airline, they also wondered why Kenny NEVER spoke of the hijacking, ever...even when everyone else was abuzz about it.

A: So the people Kenny worked with were with him
24 hours a day for the rest of his life ? Who cares what "everyone else" is doing. And what did Kenny talk about in front of these people? What other important acts of his life did he NEVER talk about
in front of them ... while THEY were gossiping
incessantly?


They described it as 'strange'. *Helen said she always thought the FBI would speak to both Watson and Christiansen about the hijacking, and wondered why they never did. (*From her October 4 interview)

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My take is that everyone's reaction is the same as mine:

That any theory is fine. But that it was bizarre how Blevins tried to ram it down everyone's throat. Remember how he bragged about the secret to his success being going out and interviewing people, while everyone else couldn't see the forest for the trees?

Beyond the theory, he actively campaigned that everyone else was stupid. Yet clearly, he had never looked in the mirror, or didn't care.

For me, the amazing thing was when that lawyer from Florida posted (he only posted once) and he said he thought KC was a reasonable suspect. Or that someone bothered to email support to Blevins.

Any sense of WTF? on my part, as as much to do with incredulity that anyone (including the History Channel) would listen to Blevins.

Or that PIs in NYC are licensed, that shovel BS like this.

If I was a lawyer in NYC, defending my client who was banging secretaries and his wife hired Skipp who got "evidence" and was trying to take me to the cleaners in a divorce, I'd want to use this situation to show how both Blevins and Porteus are con artists (and not the first in the Cooper saga)

quick rehash of the guys in 1972. $30K was in play.

They were convicted.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=5jkQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=VI8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=6828,4391865&dq=db-cooper&hl=en

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=5zkQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=VI8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=6961,4487869&hl=en

I keep wondering what Blevins' angle is. There can't be much money in play. So WTF?

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was browsing the web, and found some advice at
http://intotheblast.blogspot.com


When you are doing an investigation, some people will be forthright and honest. Others will be evasive, and perhaps engage in lying. If you come prepared, then it is easier to separate the wheat from the chaff and determine what is truth and what is a lie.


attached photo of 1966 Opel Diplomat Matchbox car.

I don't know why there are so many of these on ebay
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=opel-diplomat

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I keep wondering what Blevins' angle is. There can't be much money in play. So WTF?

I think more than Lyle's nickle ($495..) he also
dropped an idea on everyone .... the idea of a movie.

These NYCity guys are slick and don't miss
a thing. Lyle unwittingly delivered the script,
for a movie about a former NWA employee no less!.

One of Blevins' first claims was: 'The FBI never investigated Kenny/Watson'. Blevins' claim remains
unproved and never will be proved outright, because the FBI won't talk to Blevins etal.

Next step: go out and investigate which could be cover for 'build the script'. You cloud it more by accusing other sleuths of being rank incompetents
'who dont hve the truth'. (Hell I thought Blegvbins said this was a THEORY!?)

Lyle dropped a script for free. Will the major
movie ever get made. Most thinking people think "No" because the burden of proof is much higher (than anything the History Channel demands). The History Channel routinely says
right out front: "This is only speculation ..." But
the fact appears to be: 'they contacted four others before considering Blevins. Blevins was the bottom of the barrel?'.

Geof Gray broke the story. Where does Geof stand in all of this? Did Porteous have a contract with Lyle? Blevins is big on contracts and secrecy. If there are NO real facts to keep secret then it
must be a contract, or the promise of a contract,
or the search for a screen writer .... but screen writers talk! Woooooops. Cat walks out of bag.

Blevins is a lot like Lyle. Lyle dropped his story line and his script free. Damn. Blevins came here to promote his script also, out of courtesy, being a
nice guy, because the world badly wanted to know
and 'we' were just dying to know?

There is an even larger element working in the
background, that I am not going to talk about.
It's not the 40th anniversary per se...

Blevins is well aware of that or if he is not then
he trully is out of touch and stumbling around ..

Im not going to say more but just sit here and
watch.

Whose woods these are I think I know,
his house is in the village though. He will
not mind us stopping here - to watch his
woods fill up with snow.

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georger theorized:

"I think more than Lyle's nickle ($495..) he also
dropped an idea on everyone .... the idea of a movie."


I think there might be two sisters besides Lyle. Maybe Blevins can confirm. If so, why didn't he publish anything from the sisters? Maybe they got money from the hijacking? Wonder why Blevins didn't do a financial investigation into them? Maybe it will come out on the History Channel.

Or maybe there are no sisters.
The names I'm seeing are Amy and Donna.
Mr Blevins? confirm or ??

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There are two reasons people resort to using shills. First, is because they have to in order to build some veil of legitimacy for some ‘product’. Secondly, because it works.

Bernie Madoff committed the world’s largest theft and had but one tool at his disposal; BS.
If you count the legions of brain dead that wanted to believe how Bernie had a super secret way to trade stocks, then he had two tools available.

The irony of Harry Markopolos paying taxes on the wages he earns, which partially go to fund Bernie’s prison stay is absolutely tactile.

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There are two reasons people resort to using shills. First, is because they have to in order to build some veil of legitimacy for some ‘product’. Secondly, because it works.

Bernie Madoff committed the world’s largest theft and had but one tool at his disposal; BS.
If you count the legions of brain dead that wanted to believe how Bernie had a super secret way to trade stocks, then he had two tools available.

The irony of Harry Markopolos paying taxes on the wages he earns, which partially go to fund Bernie’s prison stay is absolutely tactile.

well said.

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Sluggo stated:

First, I am REALLY glad you made it back in relatively good condition. I last heard from you on Saturday.

About Tuesday I decided to call you and realized that I had erased the Cell # when I did a mailbox cleanout.

Jo states:

You would never have gotten me as I don't know how to get the voice mails or to answer the darn thing. All I can do is call out. I deleted lots of voice mails because I was unable to open them. Remember that I bearly know enough about the computer to play around and do some searching - I leave the serious stuff to guys like you.
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Sluggo stated:
Now, I want to talk about something that you need to understand. Your analytical abilities (techniques) are what make everyone get in such an uproar about your assertions. It is NOT that they think you are lying. (There is one notable exception to this, but their analytical abilities aren't that great either.) Here is an “indicator behavior” of this analytical flaw that upsets everyone (yes, including me):

Jo States:
It is hard to teach and old dog (old lady) new tricks. I am unable to be analytical because I am personally involved - I try, but it just doesn't work for me.
I am all over the place and my mind rambles and goes completely off subject. This is why people like me hire someone else to do these things for them. I can tell my story, but I loose the reader or listener and a very good reason the FBI just could not follow me, nor others. Only those who have known me for yrs can put the pieces together.
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Sluggo stated:
You accused Blevins of using information from your story in his book:

Jo states:
I understand all of that about the count down system and it is NOT something orginal. I was just mad because Belvins is a story teller and he is using whatever he can to tell the story about a suspect. Remember that when I talk I am on a personal level. Remember it has been over 14 yrs and my stress level is very high regarding Cooper - so I shoot off my mouth once in awhile (well a lot of the time).

I don't have the time to analyze the things people say or write. I have a dead line to prove what I know - if only to myself. I should have done this trip yrs ago and have saved myself a lot of grief, but money and time and my health got in the way...plus the fact that I remarried in 2002 and he died in 2007 after a long illness.

I knew it was NOW or NEVER and I had to do what I had to do...make that trip.
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Sluggo stated:
Jo, you have just completed a challenging quest. One that caused many people (who don’t even know the real difficulties you faced) to express admiration for your fortitude. If they knew the whole story, that admiration would double. You showed that you could rise to a challenge and be victorious. So now, I challenge you to learn to use standard analytical techniques, based on logic not emotion. If you do, you’ll find less criticism and more support.

Again:
Jo you amaze me, I never thought you would do it. AND, you did it YOUR way. When I offered to accompany you (last Spring) and you declined, I thought that decision was “wrong-headed”. Now, I understand… you needed to do it on your own. I WAS WRONG, and I’m not ashamed (or hesitant) to admit it! I know it cost you a lot of money, but that may be the best $5k you ever spent when it comes to your “peace of mind”.

As we say in the Deep-South, “You done good-‘n-all”.


Jo's statement:

Thank You for the above comments. As for being analytical I have to leave that to you guys - to take what I say and try to understand it.

You are right - I really needed to do this on my own. If someone had been with me - I would never have accomplished what I did. I just plunge into the water and did what I had to do...it was sink or swim. I had to use my memories - with old maps (many of which you had provided). I finally purchase a good map of a specific area on that last day, but have not felt like pulling it to really study it. It is a glossy Clark county map.

I was lost when the woman in Hockinson sold me the map. Hockinson is just a store. The post master and the young lady who managed or owned the story were very kind to me. This was my last day (Thursday) on the search road and I was physically and mentallly exhausted.

This part of the trip to the Lewis was encouraged by 2 women I had made friends with several yrs ago. I had not been able to find the area I was looking for - and they finally sat me down and told me to listen to them and that I had not listened to them 10 yrs ago.

Then they pulled old maps they had - showed me what they were talking about. I realized Duane and I had gone further North than I had thought. I then started on the last leg of my trip. I was driving the route by myself and was amazed at how fast you could get from place to place - even with all of the development and changes.

I will have to study the maps to provide any details so everyone will know where I was. Most of the time I didn't know what road I was on - I just folllowed my gut and my memory of what I was seeing. This part of the trip would never have happened if two ladies older than myself had not told me I NEEDED to do this - that I NEEDED to see what they were talking about. I didn't get as far as I had hoped because I had to get back to Portland before the traffic started at 3PM. I did fine on country roads, but the city traffic and main highways rattled me.

I am so tired I have yet to go to the store for groceries, but waded thru 16 days of mail. For 2 days I have ate what I had in the cupboard - in the way of canned goods. Just so very very tired...this is the most exhausted I have ever felt in my life. I went from 127lbs to 120 lbs in the last 2 wks. This is the least I have weighed since I was in my early 20's.

I was eating well but... it was the stress was buring the calories. Also the cold I believe causes you to burn more energy....

It is a miracle I didn't come home with a cold or the flu. I took caution to stay away from anyone who was obviously ill.
Just glad to be home, but don't feel my mission is complete yet. I want to go back. The orginal plan was to go in Sept. but some health problems put a halt to that.

Now I have to take what I have - putting it in some kind of order and making the contacts with those I missed along the way.
I don't believe I can finish what I have to do without going back to WA and there is a lot of research I am going to need some help with.

Property records, geneology records, work records (hopeless unless the museum and records not accessible to me in THE DALLES - is made available).
I do now have categories for the FBI to search within - but the geneology search will give them family member and friends of the family to search for. I knew Duane had a past in WA and OR, but I have only skimmed the surface - CC'S seemed to keep coming up. The girls were told to stay out of town when the CC'S came into Goldendale and other places.

I collected as much information as I could in the museums and libraries and senior centers. I kept hoping to find a picture of Duane with the name he used - and heaven only knows what that was - but I have clues to work on.

There was supposedly a picture made at the Spillway Tavern in the Dalles of Duane under the counter when Doc Severinsen was in the area around 1947.,,, Renember Duane knew Doc Severinsen thur - family members in the area just north of Arlington on the Washington state side. Doc played and Duane sang...I have someone searching the KODL files and old pictures. They are stored at the home of several of the old KODL employees. They were going to discard most of them.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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I keep wondering what Blevins' angle is. There can't be much money in play. So WTF?

I think Blevins got suckered by Porteous. He is just trying to save face...because he dug a hole so deep he has to keep trying to build a ladder long enough to crawl out on his own gracefully. Porteous is not going to reach down and give him a helping hand.

Blevin never met nor did he know Christiansen. ALL he has is hearsay. I definitely think that Christiansen's financial status is inflated way over. if I were Blevin - I would be asking for court record regarding the dispersement value of the assets.

Was the the value of the coin collection done by a reputatable dealer? Try selling a coin collection and the you find the REAL value...estimates for insurance purposes are very inflated. Seems like the value of that coin collection get larger and larger everytime it is mentioned.

The brother or other heirs could get a real shock with their taxes considering the inflated value of the collection. I presume they inherited this collect by will. Sounds like they will have lots of problems to deal with after the History Channel gets through.

Was the coin collection declared and by whom on their taxes...after it was inherited or is it still in escrow?

The History channel had 4 suspects to choose from - did I read that right? I would have thought the History Channel would be a little more guarded in their selections - but, then maybe things won't come down exactly like Blevins thinks or hopes. I am very aware of how they use little of what you think they will use - and how much ends up on the cutting room floor. Why, I refuse to participate in these things. 2001 was enough for me....I felt like I was made an idiot out of by the media, but Jerry Thomas had a hand in that with his misnomers which I can NOW prove.

Wish I was young enough and strong enough to travel that area again and record what I saw and were I went - but development gets in the way...should have been done yrs ago. At least I have my memories - the way it used to be. I know that I am not "miss remembering" as someone was so kind to say rather than calling me a liar and fantasy story teller.

I know the truth even if no one else does. What I don't know is if there was anyone else or if he did this alone and why? I am convinced Duane Lorin Weber was Dan Cooper, but what about the rest of the story? I expect that there will be many stories told even beyond this point, but without the assistance of the FBI regarding key information they have kept secret - the truth will never be known. WHY? Now that would make a good movie - not who Cooper was, but WHY Cooper was never caught or identified.


Truth is NO ONE cares anymore about who Cooper was - the question most want answered is WHY and HOW the FBI missed this one. It is no longer about Cooper himself - it is now about the search that has ensued for almost 40 yrs and how this major crime evaded the FBI for all of these yrs. Even if the FBI announced tomorrow that Duane L. Weber was Cooper - would the public believe it? Probably not!

Now watch Blevins use my green paragraphs to cover his ass. Remember you read it first here today - posted on October 31st, 2010 at 5:41 Pm Central time and composed by Jo Weber, the widow of Dan Cooper.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Jo said "Blevin never met nor did he know Christiansen. ALL he has is hearsay. I definitely think that Christiansen's financial status is inflated way over. if I were Blevin - I would be asking for court record regarding the dispersment value of the assets"

Who got the money? If this money is from the hijack, isn't it recoverable? I would think his relatives wouldn't want to be known as spending proceeds from a crime.

Like: what would your kid think, if you sent him to college on hijack money? Is the whole Christiansen family dirty? Did they turn it over into meth labs? Is Blevins part of a meth lab network?

re: Estate Taxes

Good point Jo. You're thinking! So they must have sold the coin collection. No one would hold onto to it, and pay the estate tax out of their pocket (who would have that kind of cash around..unless they were into meth labs maybe)

Maybe this is a big money laundering project? I wonder how far the History Channel investigation will go.

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From the post by NexusOfCivility......

The Ellensburg, WA Daily Record said (on 12/20/1972:

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"You did all this lying for Karl Fleming?" asked Assistant U.S. Attorney Lawrence Finegold.

I’m surprised that someone (maybe georger) wasn’t all over this!

Assistant U.S. Attorney Lawrence Finegold boarded NWA Flight 305 at PDX on 11/24/1971 and was released with the other passengers. He was one of the passengers that said he didn’t notice Cooper and hence, wasn’t questioned (by the FBI) more extensively.



So… is this just one of those “strange coincidences”? Or should we call one of those “conspiracy experts” from The History Channel, The Learning Channel, or The Discovery Channel? I’m sure Jesse Ventura is looking for new stories for this season.




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