dparker 0 #51 July 24, 2007 Hoop – long time no talk to or see. Good to see you’re still around and apparently doing well. When you corrected Ron on the year Tony went in it got me thinking. After 41 years in this sport, visiting many drop zones, jumping with a myriad of individuals, and telling the same (albeit somewhat altered) jump stories 100’s of times, events and dates do become somewhat blurred, however neither year looked correct to me. I was there that night so I dug out my log books to see if they would help. Based on my findings I am going to propose that it happened at the 1970 Turkey meet. I know we had a large California contingent that year as that was the same year we completed a 17 way star using jumpers from Florida, Illinois, California, Michigan, and Ontario (which, I believe, was the first formation of that size outside of California). I have attached a page from my log book with signatures from all the participants. I am sure some of these names will bring back memories. So, I vote for 1970 as the correct year but, like I said earlier, my memory has developed some soft spots over the years. On the original subject, I don’t know of any cast being made of the crater but I was at the memorial service in the morning when one individual planted “grass” seeds in the moist sand. Dana Parker SCR365 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lekstrom10k 0 #52 July 24, 2007 Thats about what I remember too. The Shawanga was heard as the formation was pulled off the DC-2 door. That was a few beers ago. Thanks for helping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dparker 0 #53 July 24, 2007 Sorry - forgot the attachment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 18 #54 July 24, 2007 Hi Chuck, All is fine and well ridin' da beacon in both catregories, as long as you don't get shot by Gene Paul!!!!!!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerRamjet 0 #55 July 24, 2007 It's scary how many of those names I've jumped with (all but two I think)... I started in Z-Hills in '73 and was told there had been only one fatality there and it was nineteen sixty something (I thought 68, but everyone has thrown out a different date, so who knows). I know there were no casts made or parties for Giggles in '73 or Lou Jecker and Sabrina in '75. I don't think that was ever a Z-Hills tradition. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim_Hooper 3 #56 July 24, 2007 QuoteHoop – long time no talk to or see. Good to see you’re still around and apparently doing well. So, I vote for 1970 as the correct year but, like I said earlier, my memory has developed some soft spots over the years. Dana Parker SCR365 Well, as I live and breathe - Dana Parker. How the decades fly. I'm fully willing to concede the year, but have a look at my thread "Try Again" and take a look at the photo of that bunch of ne'er do wells (excepting your presence, of course) and tell me if its the 17-man of which you speak. You might be able to fill in the names of the Valley Mills guys. Hoop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 18 #57 July 24, 2007 Hi Sky, At Perris that's "Air Trash!!!" and there's also "Sky Scum!!!" Not to get the two cornfused?? However, if you ask a member of either group, the reply would probably be," I resemble that remark!!" Well have fun and any time you want to jump with Air Trash, (or Sky Scum for that matter) I'm sure there will be a slot on the load. BTW go to www.airtrash.com and check out the site, what-a-site!!! Also at Raeford we have Air Trash East which I transplanted out here when I moved from the left coast.SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 18 #58 July 24, 2007 Hi hag, Great song, thx for printing out the words for us!!! BTW I wonder how many newby's know what (HAGALO) stands for??? How about "High Altitude Grab Ass Low Opening" typical for most of our activities, at least in daze gone by. These daze the newby's get chicken at 5 grand and start tossin' pilot chutes!!! Like take it to at least 2.2K !!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dparker 0 #59 July 26, 2007 Jim, I don’t want to hijack this traditions thread to discuss Z-hills history so I have posted my response under “Try Again”. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 18 #60 July 26, 2007 Hi Ivan, What ever happened to "Cardinal Puff" and all the other side games, playing hackey sack, mooning the buzz job, crater lurks, and does anyone remember "Shazam" ???????? (hint hint, Skydive Elsinore summer of '68)SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim_Hooper 3 #61 July 26, 2007 QuoteQuote I hate getting talked to like crazy at a lot of DZs. Sure I only have 400 sumpin jumps, but that doesn't mean I need an AFF course every damn time I visit a DZ. I am always grimly amused by those who see a DZO’s emphasis on safety as somehow limiting their fun. A moment’s intelligent reflection just might throw up the possibility that the person in charge genuinely hates people dying on his/her dropzone. It’s the owner/operator, not the writer of the above, who has to deal with the aftermath. “I hate getting talked to like crazy at a lot of DZs. Sure I only have 400 sumpin jumps, but that doesn't mean I need an AFF course every damn time I visit a DZ.” If it impacted face down – not that that’s the way you’ll find it because bodies almost always bounce – it will be unrecognizable as the laughing, enthusiastic man or woman you were talking to half an hour earlier. “I hate getting talked to like crazy at a lot of DZs. Sure I only have 400 sumpin jumps, but that doesn't mean I need an AFF course every damn time I visit a DZ.” “Jesus, what’s that?” “I think it’s his/her liver” - or spleen, or brains, or intestine, or bone. (You didn’t think it was a hygienic Hollywood version of a bullet through the heart, did you?) “I hate getting talked to like crazy at a lot of DZs. Sure I only have 400 sumpin jumps, but that doesn't mean I need an AFF course every damn time I visit a DZ.” Before you make another breathtakingly immature “I’m-too-shit-hot-to-listen” comment about a DZO’s concern for your well-being, let me make a suggestion. If it should happen one day where you are, take that long sad walk with him, have a good look and try not to toss your cookies. You are, however, allowed to cry later, in private, if it's someone you knew well. And you know what? – it never, ever, gets easier. Jim Hooper SCR242 D4019 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piper17 1 #62 July 26, 2007 Amen to that, Jim. For a number of years, I had the depressing job of writing up the fatality report summaries that would appear each month in Parachutist magazine while serving on the USPA Safety & Training Committee. In all the years I did that, I only remember one fatality when it was probably not avoidable...every other one was preventable."A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GreenLight 5 #63 July 27, 2007 Hey Bill! Havn't told me about any new members lately. We still sing the "SONG" on the airplane. How about yous guys on the East Coast? It always relaxes the students... QuoteLisa, Next time I am at Perris get ahold of me and I will make sure you become "Air Trash". I have be a member since 1979. And then there is Cardnial Puff. Sparky Sparky we can make her a Silly Tit while we're at it. For those who don't know, that's a tradition started by Perry Armstrong and still going on at the AT website. Over 200 members strong now. Bully is our president at this time.Green Light "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kimemerson 7 #64 July 28, 2007 This won't help with why we yell "Shawanga" followed by the "fly, baby, fly" on take off, but here's the scoop on why we say it for the exit count. http://theblueskyranch.com/sta/ke8.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tkhayes 125 #65 July 28, 2007 QuoteI hate getting talked to like crazy at a lot of DZs. Sure I only have 400 sumpin jumps, but that doesn't mean I need an AFF course every damn time I visit a DZ. Most do not expect you to take an AFF course - but we DO want to know that you still remember how to check your gear, and you know that the cutaway handle is on the RIGHT side, not the left, etc. The sport is far more complicated than it used to be. We used to fly RW and solos, RW and solos, - now we have every different discipline on the same load, often on the same pass. parachutes from 300sq ft down to 67 sq ft, and we want to be reasonably sure that you will get yourself to the ground safely. It is far more than just 'pulling the ripcord' and un-current skydivers still get hurt on a regular basis. and with hungry lawyers out there - lack of insurance - municipalities, and government agencies breathing down our necks more and more every year.... no need to say more. Not being a prick - but I want to know what you are capable of and I want you to prove it to one of my staff if it has been a long layoff since your last jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybill 18 #66 August 1, 2007 Hi Ivan, One tradition no one else has mentioned yet (I think?) is,"CASE OF BEER!!!!!!!" for just about anything!! Back in the old daze, the tradition was you owed a case of brew if you dropped your ripcord!! Only way out of that one was if you had a mal then you could toss it so you had both hands free to get your reserve out. With B-4 equipment, you needed both hands and a lot of luck, or something.SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites zoobrothertom 5 #67 August 2, 2007 Hell, Yes! Case(s) of Beer. Some DZs had a rule of maximum one case per jump. My first clear and pull in '82 was a 4 case jump at Ft. Lewis, WA. 1 - first freefall 2 - Dropped my ripcord (at 100' putting it in the pocket) 3 - First tree landing 4 - The damn tree was a giant Chistmas tree shape that turned into a slide and deposited me safely on the ground ..... for my first standup landing!Fortunately, beer at the PX was a lot cheaper back then! ____________________________________ I'm back in the USA!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airdvr 197 #68 August 2, 2007 Quote Once at Quincy a guy had the plastic picket fence the little guy with the ring to tie up horses. . Hehe...that made me laugh. The guy who did that was Ebby Boehm from Parkman. His wife even made a little rig for him to wear.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SCS292 1 #69 March 30, 2012 At V-Mills in '71 & '72 we used to sing the hymn "Shall We Gather at the River" when the twin Beech or DC-3 got to 10,000 ft. By the time we got to 10,500 we were done and ready to get out. It was a little disconcerting for me the first time I heard it sung by all on board. I have no idea who started that one but I never heard it anywhere else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,120 #70 March 31, 2012 I first started jumping in Houston in 1975; when we were taking off in the Beech at Spaceland they often sung that, ending it with "eat, fuck, skydive." A lot of guys had been Valley Mills jumpers. I always wondered where that came from. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZigZagMarquis 8 #71 March 31, 2012 Back in the Apple Valley Skydive days, we used to sing the them song to the T.V. show The Monkees during the ride to altitude. Black Kevin started that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SCS292 1 #72 March 31, 2012 Well, if it ended that way I didn't hear it in the V-Mills days. I don't remember eating being much of a priority. Unless it was like the bumper sticker that I saw once that read "Eat your Honey, 1,000,000 bears can't be wrong" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 3 #73 April 1, 2012 Quote Black Kevin started that one. You mean night time Kevin as opposed to day time Kevin the pilot? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZigZagMarquis 8 #74 April 1, 2012 Quote Quote Black Kevin started that one. You mean night time Kevin as opposed to day time Kevin the pilot? Sparky Well... AVS already had a Cue Ball, but "night time" Kevin wouldn't let us call him Eight Ball. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites low_pull1 2 #75 January 20, 2013 last time i rode the beacon was at the "dollar days boogie", neked in 89 i think Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 3 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
piper17 1 #62 July 26, 2007 Amen to that, Jim. For a number of years, I had the depressing job of writing up the fatality report summaries that would appear each month in Parachutist magazine while serving on the USPA Safety & Training Committee. In all the years I did that, I only remember one fatality when it was probably not avoidable...every other one was preventable."A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenLight 5 #63 July 27, 2007 Hey Bill! Havn't told me about any new members lately. We still sing the "SONG" on the airplane. How about yous guys on the East Coast? It always relaxes the students... QuoteLisa, Next time I am at Perris get ahold of me and I will make sure you become "Air Trash". I have be a member since 1979. And then there is Cardnial Puff. Sparky Sparky we can make her a Silly Tit while we're at it. For those who don't know, that's a tradition started by Perry Armstrong and still going on at the AT website. Over 200 members strong now. Bully is our president at this time.Green Light "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kimemerson 7 #64 July 28, 2007 This won't help with why we yell "Shawanga" followed by the "fly, baby, fly" on take off, but here's the scoop on why we say it for the exit count. http://theblueskyranch.com/sta/ke8.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 125 #65 July 28, 2007 QuoteI hate getting talked to like crazy at a lot of DZs. Sure I only have 400 sumpin jumps, but that doesn't mean I need an AFF course every damn time I visit a DZ. Most do not expect you to take an AFF course - but we DO want to know that you still remember how to check your gear, and you know that the cutaway handle is on the RIGHT side, not the left, etc. The sport is far more complicated than it used to be. We used to fly RW and solos, RW and solos, - now we have every different discipline on the same load, often on the same pass. parachutes from 300sq ft down to 67 sq ft, and we want to be reasonably sure that you will get yourself to the ground safely. It is far more than just 'pulling the ripcord' and un-current skydivers still get hurt on a regular basis. and with hungry lawyers out there - lack of insurance - municipalities, and government agencies breathing down our necks more and more every year.... no need to say more. Not being a prick - but I want to know what you are capable of and I want you to prove it to one of my staff if it has been a long layoff since your last jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 18 #66 August 1, 2007 Hi Ivan, One tradition no one else has mentioned yet (I think?) is,"CASE OF BEER!!!!!!!" for just about anything!! Back in the old daze, the tradition was you owed a case of brew if you dropped your ripcord!! Only way out of that one was if you had a mal then you could toss it so you had both hands free to get your reserve out. With B-4 equipment, you needed both hands and a lot of luck, or something.SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoobrothertom 5 #67 August 2, 2007 Hell, Yes! Case(s) of Beer. Some DZs had a rule of maximum one case per jump. My first clear and pull in '82 was a 4 case jump at Ft. Lewis, WA. 1 - first freefall 2 - Dropped my ripcord (at 100' putting it in the pocket) 3 - First tree landing 4 - The damn tree was a giant Chistmas tree shape that turned into a slide and deposited me safely on the ground ..... for my first standup landing!Fortunately, beer at the PX was a lot cheaper back then! ____________________________________ I'm back in the USA!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #68 August 2, 2007 Quote Once at Quincy a guy had the plastic picket fence the little guy with the ring to tie up horses. . Hehe...that made me laugh. The guy who did that was Ebby Boehm from Parkman. His wife even made a little rig for him to wear.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCS292 1 #69 March 30, 2012 At V-Mills in '71 & '72 we used to sing the hymn "Shall We Gather at the River" when the twin Beech or DC-3 got to 10,000 ft. By the time we got to 10,500 we were done and ready to get out. It was a little disconcerting for me the first time I heard it sung by all on board. I have no idea who started that one but I never heard it anywhere else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,120 #70 March 31, 2012 I first started jumping in Houston in 1975; when we were taking off in the Beech at Spaceland they often sung that, ending it with "eat, fuck, skydive." A lot of guys had been Valley Mills jumpers. I always wondered where that came from. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #71 March 31, 2012 Back in the Apple Valley Skydive days, we used to sing the them song to the T.V. show The Monkees during the ride to altitude. Black Kevin started that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCS292 1 #72 March 31, 2012 Well, if it ended that way I didn't hear it in the V-Mills days. I don't remember eating being much of a priority. Unless it was like the bumper sticker that I saw once that read "Eat your Honey, 1,000,000 bears can't be wrong" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #73 April 1, 2012 Quote Black Kevin started that one. You mean night time Kevin as opposed to day time Kevin the pilot? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #74 April 1, 2012 Quote Quote Black Kevin started that one. You mean night time Kevin as opposed to day time Kevin the pilot? Sparky Well... AVS already had a Cue Ball, but "night time" Kevin wouldn't let us call him Eight Ball. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
low_pull1 2 #75 January 20, 2013 last time i rode the beacon was at the "dollar days boogie", neked in 89 i think Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
