diverdriver 5 #1 December 2, 2002 Is this your King Air? N195DP? From the FAA site: IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 195DP Make/Model: BE9L Description: 90, A90 to E90 King Air (T-44, Date: 11/29/2002 Time: 2225 Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Unknown LOCATION City: CULLMAN State: AL Country: US DESCRIPTION ACFT LANDED GEAR UP ON RWY 20. CULLMQAN, AL INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: WEATHER: METAR KHSV 292153Z 22010KT 10SM CLR 12/00 A2998 OTHER DATA Activity: Pleasure Phase: Landing Operation: General Aviation Departed: CULLMAN, AL Dep Date: 11/29/2002 Dep. Time: 2200 Destination: CULLMAN, AL Flt Plan: NONE Wx Briefing: Y Last Radio Cont: HSV APPROACH Last Clearance: FAA FSDO: BIRMINGHAM, AL (SO09) Entry date: 12/02/2002Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic 0 #2 December 2, 2002 That's going to take some repair work.----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Topcat 0 #3 December 2, 2002 It's ours.Gear up. No one injured but our pilot's pride. Insurance will cover it; it looks like we have a couple of options turbine airplane-wise while it's getting repaired. -Sandy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 December 2, 2002 I've always been told that there are 2 kinds of pilots, those who have landed with the gear up and those who will. That sucks, but atleast no one was hurt and the insurance will cover it.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #5 December 2, 2002 Quote It's ours.Gear up. No one injured but our pilot's pride. Insurance will cover it; it looks like we have a couple of options turbine airplane-wise while it's getting repaired. -Sandy Ouch....and it's not the first time this has happened to this plane. It was on a charter years ago. Different operation. http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001213X28923&key=1 NTSB Identification: MKC89IA168 . The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 39019. 14 CFRPart 135 operation of Air Taxi & Commuter CENTRAL FLYING SERVICE Incident occurred Wednesday, July 26, 1989 at SPRINGDALE, AR Aircraft:BEECH 65-90, registration: N195DP Injuries: 4 Uninjured. THE INCIDENT AIRCRAFT LANDED WITH THE GEAR IN THE RETRACTED POSITION. THE AIRCRAFT WAS RAISED DURING THE RECOVERY PROCESS AND THE GEAR SELECTOR WAS PLACED IN THE EXTEND POSITION. THE GEAR EXTENDED NORMALLY. THIS PROCESS WAS REPEATED SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE SAME RESULTS. UPON ARRIVAL AT THE SCENE, THE GEAR UNSAFE LIGHTS WERE ILLUMINATED. WITNESSES ABOARD THE AIRCRAFT STATED THAT THEY OBSERVED THE AMBER (GEAR UP) LIGHTS JUST PRIOR TO IMPACTING THE RUNWAY. THE LANDING GEAR WARNING HORN WAS TESTED AND FOUND TO BE INOPERATIVE. THE WARNING HORN WAS NOT THE WARNING HORN SPECIFIED IN THE BEECH PARTS MANUAL. The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows. THE PILOT'S FAILURE TO EXTEND THE LANDING GEAR.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #6 December 2, 2002 Quote It's ours.Gear up. No one injured but our pilot's pride. Insurance will cover it; it looks like we have a couple of options turbine airplane-wise while it's getting repaired. -Sandy Sandy, What load of the day was this? The FAA report listed 2 on board. Was the other person an observer?Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Topcat 0 #7 December 2, 2002 Quote What load of the day was this? The FAA report listed 2 on board. Was the other person an observer? Don't know the load. It was an observer. -Sandy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #8 December 2, 2002 Quote# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: Even though it said earlier 0 fatalities, why did this indicate crew and passenger "Fat"? Or am I misreading? HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic 0 #9 December 2, 2002 short for "fatality"?----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #10 December 2, 2002 Its saying 1 crew, 0 injuried. Same with the pass. It seems the last 0 got left off. If it was a fatal crash with one serious injury it would have went: # Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 0 # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 1 Min: 0 Unk: 0Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #11 December 2, 2002 QuoteQuote# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: Even though it said earlier 0 fatalities, why did this indicate crew and passenger "Fat"? Or am I misreading? HW No, it's just misleading. It should have some better sort of separation. I think it should be like "Crew - 1: Fat - 0". etc. Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, more money. Why do they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #12 December 2, 2002 To all: They (the FAA) intentionally leave the last column "Unk:" (unknown) blank. If there is anything to put there it is usually a "Y" (yes) instead of a number. So it reads Crew: One.......Fatal: Zero.....etc....Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #13 December 2, 2002 Understand. Misread. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #14 December 2, 2002 That happened nextdoor at GoldCoast at some point too, it was a pilot who didn't normally fly jumpers at GC - not sure what he was thinking. That was approximately a year and a half or 2 years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #15 December 2, 2002 Your refering to the Westwind of Jim Baron. The pilot is a regular pilot at my DZ and has hundreds of hours in Beeches and Westwinds plus a few hundred in Casa's, Otters, Beavers, etc. I think it was a combo of wanting to turn fast loads and it was late in the day after many loads let the one thing slip his mind during the decent. Ask any twin pilot that flys retractable gear all the time how close they have came to landing gear tucked away if they have'nt already. Its not if... its when most the times with retractible gear. Retractible gear and tail wheel planes are hard to fly. The Beech 18's and Westwinds are both.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
