kallend 1,620 #26 December 11, 2002 Quote It would be kinda embarassing if it was wrong.... Why? My boss doesn't read DZ.com... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamsville 0 #27 December 11, 2002 Thanks to "Crazy" and "Mikkif", I have now read their posts and no mystery remains. There is the XMAS party Saturday, I recall. We always seem to stray on these threads, oh well. HarryI don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #28 December 11, 2002 Quote You know, I was wondering about this. At what point does breaking a record become statistically unlikely? (95% confidence, say) when the participants quit believing it's possible... arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cajones 0 #29 December 11, 2002 Very nicely put, Arlo. The laws of physics are strictly enforced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygal3 0 #30 December 11, 2002 there was a great pic in the boston globe today...some nice coworker left it on my desk for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #31 December 11, 2002 Note to self: Never play black-jack with Mikkif.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkif 0 #32 December 12, 2002 lol! Despite everything, the most profitable casino thing for me is still the points I earn on the affilate card. And even then, I think I've earned more on my Ralph's card!Freedom -- Expression -- Spirit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #33 December 12, 2002 Quote BTW, the mean stats are interesting, but what would really be worth knowing is the standard deviation, right? Wait a minute. Is your math right? If you are saying that there is a 1:83 probability that a skydiver will make a mistake on a skydive, than would there be a 300:83 probability that someone would make a mistake each 300-way attempt? Or are you saying that there is a 1:83 probability that any given skydive will have a mistake made, in which case, that is their overall odds of success (have to go higher for level of experience and planning, down for degree of difficulty)? I think you are saying the latter, but making it cumulative. There is no sequencing here, in other words it's like a coin toss. You can't say that there is a 24:83 probability there will be a successful attempt, but you can say that is it probable that 0.29 (24/83) jumps will have a mistake made. That can't be right. Are you sure about the 83 number? nerd alert> Probability Factor: 2^20,000:1 against and falling!!! Trillian?? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirMail 0 #34 December 12, 2002 I've been at Eloy all week watching the event. Today (Wednesday) there were 4 attempts. The word from the organizers to the participants before the 4th jump was "Every part of the formation has been completed at least once, now go up there and do it again all on the same jump". Spirits are still high even though there will probably be some people replaced in the 104 person Base portion tomorrow. Most of the Whackers are building most of the time. The jumpers are jumping from 21,000 and are fighting extreme cold (jump 1 today the air temp at 21,000 was -15F). Lots of people on Monday and yesterday's first jump had their face shields ice over rendering them virtually blind on exit. Remarkably, there were and have been no injuries or deaths. There have been several cutaways, but all have landed safely. To describe the dives, there is 1 skyvan flying lead with 13 Super Otters in a V-formation behind it. Today there has been a King Air flying above to take pictures. It takes about 40-45 minutes to get to jump run. In addition to the 300 skydivers there are 10 camera flyers jumping too. I'll try to post some more tomorrow. Blue Skies !! Patrick-- It's never too late to have a happy childhood. Postal Rodriguez, Muff 3342 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kizzie92 0 #35 December 12, 2002 Holy crap! These guys are something. They're gonna make that record for sure. Keep safe up there. TonyThe big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #36 December 12, 2002 Quote Probability Factor: 2^20,000:1 against and falling!!! Trillian?? lol..ok cool im not the only one that thought that then ltdiver ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #37 December 12, 2002 QuoteIn addition to the 300 skydivers there are 10 camera flyers jumping too. Dayum! 10 cameraflyers! Would love to be a fly on -their- wall during debriefs and strategy planning! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites