nicknitro71 0 #26 February 26, 2003 If you do it send back a money order or a cashier check not a personal one. Also you MUST wait until the check is cleared.Memento Audere Semper 903 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottaffi 0 #27 February 27, 2003 Thanks for all the input folks....I'll list the names on here tomorrow (working right now) for everyone's safety (everyone that's selling gear). I didn't even think about selling the gear to these guys but I have decided to contact the authorities about it. I feel the same as alot of you that responded (been in this sport 21 yrs), I wouldn't buy gear unless I saw at least a pic of it. The rig I'm selling was kept in tip top shape (I'm a rigger also) but I'd still have things looked at. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirMail 0 #28 February 27, 2003 QuoteQuoteWhy don't you recommend they use PayPal. I think that is available anywhere. The original poster could have requested small rocks or shiny beads, would have made no difference. The place of origin of the unusual "request" and the nature of the "request" have internet scam written all over them . I agree. My point was that PayPal would protect the seller from getting burned financially (counterfeit check and having the bank debit his account after he shipped the rig). Patrick-- It's never too late to have a happy childhood. Postal Rodriguez, Muff 3342 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eyeinthesky 0 #29 February 27, 2003 fishy, big time. if you gotta question if someone's up to something, id choose to err on the side of caution and stay away from it. i'd accept money from other countries but only by a safe way such as wire transfers, cash, international money orders, etc. if it raises a flag, trust your gut over a stranger 5000 miles away. most people are good people, but theres always that piece of shit out there.... doughey, i was stupid before stupid was cool! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottaffi 0 #30 February 27, 2003 I just did a currency conversion (South Africa to USD)......$8750 = just over $1000 USD..... P.S. I did request either a cashier's check or Paypal.com....haven't heard a word from them since! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eyeinthesky 0 #31 February 27, 2003 check out this everyone..... http://www.carsearch.com/mb/read.php?6,955 seems this is going on several places, especially in nigeria. they dont even really want the item theyre buying, just the returned money from the stolen check. even cashier's checks are bad. geeez doughey, i was stupid before stupid was cool! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 0 #32 February 27, 2003 Quote especially in nigeria Nigeria!!! is well known as an origin of notorious con scams etc... Especially in the law enforcement community including the FED level in the mid-west You think Publishers Clearinghouse has distribution???? These crews take, "YOU'VE BEEN SELECTED AS A WINNER OF ONE MILLION DOLLARS" to a whole new dimension! We've [law enforcement] been dealing with these >personal slander. .-- I'm done with the personally meaningful and philosophical sigs!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameramonkey 0 #33 February 27, 2003 QuoteWhy don't you recommend they use PayPal. I think that is available anywhere. Patrick Good luck with that... there are pitfalls with that one too... http://www.paypalwarning.com I dont deal in anything more than $200 at a time with paypal. and refuse to get "verified" by giving them access to my bank accounts. Too many horror stories for my blood. IF (big IF) I do ever go with paypal and get registered, I'll have a specific bank account for them to use, so they cant reverse/hold/etc on me. once the money is in my acct, it will immediately be transferred out of reach of them. Why the govt hasnt stepped in and demanded they be regulated like a bank is beyond me. It sure seems to work like one. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...Two wrongs don't make a right, however three lefts DO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #34 February 27, 2003 Quotethere are many epople who buy rigs online without actually seeing them.Me too ... no problems. In fact I think I got a pretty decent deal, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #35 February 27, 2003 I've bought my gear unseen and untested. I've seen photographs of it, and I have been assured that it was in good condition, but I never saw it before I bought it. Main reason? I'm in Canada, they're in Florida/Ohio. As much as I wish I could have went to Florida, it just wasn't happening. The main I bought from Craig, who immediately got my trust by shipping the goods before he ever got the money. Rest assured that he did get the money. The container+reserve I got from Stacy, who was kind enough to provide me a notorized agreement that, if her rig fails an inspection by a rigger of my choice, she will give me my money back. Needless to say that all components passed the test with flying colors. I assure you that I have an interest in skydiving Both of them preferred not to have me deal with wire transfers, presumably so I can't reverse. I sent Stacy a money order, and Craig asked for a postal money order. I think that what Craig opted for is slightly safer because it's more difficult to forge, but we're reaching here. Anyone you're dealing with who will not understand you trying to make sure that you get your money is probably not a real skydiver, since we're all broke, right? If the person has a problem with a safe transfer, don't deal with them. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottaffi 0 #36 February 27, 2003 Here are the names and email addresses of these guys that contacted me. Be advised that they can have multiple identities. #1 Mark Ronicks ([email protected]) Claims to be from West Africa. #2 Tony Benson ([email protected]) Claims to be from Nigeria Thanks again for all the input folks....I hate to see these jerks invade our "community". Years ago you could trust anyone in the skydiving community....not true these days. If I get any more offers I'll post them here. Blue Skies All!! Scott N. D-9788 AFFI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #37 February 27, 2003 It's pretty much guaranteed these guys use different names and email addresses each time, this is a very common scam. It's certainly a dead giveaway if one of these guys DOES contact you, but I seriously doubt they'll use the same name and email address again. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottaffi 0 #38 March 2, 2003 Another one....Cole Sule ([email protected] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottaffi 0 #39 March 6, 2003 I emailed the FBI with the details of some of my attempted buyers. They were happy that I didn't fall for the scheme and directed me to the following web site: www.secretservice.gov/alert419.shtml Good reading!! Blue skies All! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #40 March 6, 2003 Ya gotta wonder why they're all using free Yahoo accounts?! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #41 March 8, 2003 This just confounds my lack of understanding of the US legal system. Why the hell does the Secret Service police Internet Fraud? Did Dubya fall for one....? _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betzilla 56 #42 March 8, 2003 Possibly they are trying to avoid duties at customs? If you ship them a rig AND a check, it doesn't look like they bought it from you, it looks like they already owned it, or it is a gift.... But the shipping companies now have extensive paperwork to fill out when sending anything overseas. It blows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #43 March 8, 2003 QuoteThis just confounds my lack of understanding of the US legal system. Why the hell does the Secret Service police Internet Fraud? Did Dubya fall for one....? The Secret Service was originally put together to do security and police work for the US Treasury. They still do that, and have since picked up the protective services duty, among other things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonicfreefly 0 #44 March 9, 2003 I had an offer on my rig and told this person who is in Florida to send me a money order and I would send the rig. When I received a personal check with a different name than the guy I was dealing with a few alarm bells went off. I phone him to ask what was going on, he said the check was written by his roommate that owes him money. I told him to Fed Ex a money order again. He emailed me back and said the check has been sent by his bank, so far no check. If this money order Quotedoesn't show up soon, I too may pass this personal check onto the authorities to be checked out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kmcguffee 0 #45 March 10, 2003 QuoteWhy the hell does the Secret Service police Internet Fraud? Did Dubya fall for one....? It is broken down very weird and makes very little sense. There is a lot of overlap too. The SS handles White Collar Crime, identity theft, protective services, and counterfeiting. The FBI also handles White Collar Crime and some identity theft. This may be a situation where the SS already had a case open on this individual though. You never know. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
kmcguffee 0 #45 March 10, 2003 QuoteWhy the hell does the Secret Service police Internet Fraud? Did Dubya fall for one....? It is broken down very weird and makes very little sense. There is a lot of overlap too. The SS handles White Collar Crime, identity theft, protective services, and counterfeiting. The FBI also handles White Collar Crime and some identity theft. This may be a situation where the SS already had a case open on this individual though. You never know. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
