Phlip 0 #26 July 15, 2003 I wasn't gonna post it anyway! Like I said, it is common sense NOT to post it and would be a total lack of respect otherwise. Flip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattyBoy 0 #27 July 15, 2003 POST IT!!...and I'd also love to hear what hand signals you were improvising...I'd love to know what the TM was thinking ?! I may be gullible but at least I have a magic fish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottishJohn 25 #28 July 15, 2003 QuoteMy last $.02 and then I'm done. First, you are to be commended for not posting it on here. Yeah, what he said. It would be wrong to post it here a better place would be to post it on ftp://ftp.skydivingmovies.com/ My 2c worth. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you think my attitude stinks you should smell my fingers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayle 0 #29 July 15, 2003 I think you should blur everything else so it is in no way identifiable, except for the important part!! THE BOOBIES!!! LOL Make sure you blur the tandemaster out also. Hopefully you also have a sky shot so the ground isn't an identifiable area. Basically if you make the shot so average in eveyway that it could be anyone.....you should have no problem in a court of law, should it come to that. Just my opinion Dayle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #30 July 15, 2003 Actually, a very real danger has become apparent to me in thinking of this. There are comments about the tandem master covering the breasts. This could be misconstrued on video and turn into allegations of sexual assault against the tandem master. Sure it isn't true, but the joking suggestion that the TM was doing more than covering them has already been made by more than one poster. Posting a video like this might be adding adding coals to the fire, and could have serious adverse consequences beyond a copyright lawsuit. Just my thoughts on a very real danger that I did not think of before. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phlip 0 #31 July 15, 2003 That's funny Dayle! You basically want to see only boobies and nothing else... ?! For that you don't need me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phlip 0 #32 July 15, 2003 Don't worry on this one: there is no way you could interprete what you see on the video as a sexual assault! It is obvious he tries to help and left some margin to avoid touching anything. TM was very professional! People: there is no fire, there will be no pictures nor video of this. Sorry Flip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #33 July 15, 2003 As a woman, I'd have to say there is NO WAY that this tandem student could not have realized that she was going to lose her small top or flash the camera. NO WAY!!! Even if a woman is quite firm (thanking my genes), having larger breasts makes it difficult to walk around braless as nipples would show and breasts would jiggle. It is something that women wear for attention as it is NOT comfortable. Breasts are heavy, and they sneak out of bikinis (Read my "Last Friday night" post in Talkback), small tops, etc. This girl may have become embarrassed afterwards at how silly she looked, but she knew exactly what she was doing. She was definitely trying to look sexy. Any woman wearing no bra or a belly/halter shirt knows that she will get attention from men. For God's sake, we women get attention even if we are wearing a loose sack. I'd have to say that I doubt that she did not think about the consequences that her clothing could have. By the way, I have never done a tandem, but aren't these people supposed to wear a jumpsuit? She knew that you were filming her, and she chose to wear that top with no bra on purpose. She knew what she was doing. It makes me sad that women have to resort to geting implants or pulling stunts like this for attention. Maybe that is why I love jumping. I look disgusting when I jump with messy hair and a sweaty face, but I feel beautiful. I feel like I am a star because I am doing something so special. I was wondering if this tandem student was going to go through the AFF progression? I hope that she does, so that she can find her inner beauty. I may be going up to Hollister someday soon, and I'd love to meet some of you. Edited to add: I will be the girl in the turtleneck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #34 July 15, 2003 Quote I was laughing so hard.... totally confused... I've never seen boobs pointing straight down with a 120mph wind for 60 seconds before. Amazing. Thanks to sciences we can do that today! I wish us guys could do the same with our stuff one day. That would be hilarious! But we can! http://www.skyrush.com/skydive/german_nude_jump.mpg"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #35 July 16, 2003 So, am I supposed to glean from your post that you are an attorney? I won't be as vague about my qualifications to talk on these matters. I have been making my living taking (or a good portion of it) taking pictures for 10 years. I have been everything from a stringer for local daily rags to a staffer on two top-25 US-circ magazines. You are pretty much correct about the "work for hire" copyright assignment. But (big but) the photographer must sign a "work for hire" contract. Simple employment is not that. Hiring someone to video or photograph something for you does not give you the copyright. "Work for Hire" contracts exist for this specific reason. As the author of the work, he owns the copyright until he signs that away. Further, if the person in the video has signed a model release, he may use that video or images from that video in any way he so desires, provided the proper wording of the release. If he chooses not to post it, I commend him on his ethics. Now if he called her and told her about this site, she might be compelled to post it on her own. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chronistin 0 #36 July 16, 2003 QuoteAny woman wearing no bra or a belly/halter shirt knows that she will get attention from men. Not true. On the contrary, wearing no bra is much more comfortable (except with activities like running or rock-dancing) - and the bra is useful for putting "them" in a position to be noticed. gree'z Chronistin Chronistin (Home @ http://www.fallschirmspringer.net/) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gale 0 #37 July 16, 2003 I think you might be a little hard on this person. I mean, I know what 120 miles an hour of wind feels like and so do you, but she may not have realized (or thought about) it's effects on her clothes. Plus, if the TM didn't say anything about it, she probably thought she'd be fine. Now personally, I am large-breasted and I wouldn't go anywhere without a bra on, and I agree that it's uncomfortable or even painful! But, different strokes for different folks I guess. Wearing a small top with a bra might be confortable (not to mention cooler in the heat) to some. And one other thing, most people consider their jumpsuits quite the fashion statement, and will pay extra to have it look the way they want. We all try to look a certain way - even when grubby. GaleI'm drowning...so come inside Welcome to my...dirty mind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #38 July 17, 2003 is it common for DZs not to provide jump suits for tandem passengers? Ever tandem I've seen go up has had a jump suit on. Granted I've only bee to one DZ, though... --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cindee 0 #39 July 17, 2003 I've done 4 tandems and only wore a jumpsuit once because it was a cold day.__________________________________________________ "If happy little bluebirds fly above the rainbow, why oh why can't I?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vx99 0 #40 July 17, 2003 Students are not too keen on putting on a jumpsuit when it's 100* in the shade. I tell 'em what can happen if we biff the landing, the truth no sugar coating. Then it's up to them. I've had a few tops come loose on my students over the years, most take it in stride. Everytime it happened, I always thank hem after the jump, least I can do! Glenn_______________________________________________ More rules is NEVER the right the answer..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #41 July 17, 2003 I think you might be a little hard on this person. You're right. I am being too hard on this girl. Not everyone is prepared or rational about the consequences of jumping out of a plane. Also, I wrongly assumed that going braless is not comfortable for all women larger than a "B" cup. About jumpsuits...I again assumed that all tandem students wear them because in the DZs that I have visited so far (Perris, Elsinore, Air Adventure West, Taft, San Diego), the tandem students wore jumpsuits. Yes, this has been in 100+ weather. I do have respect for people doing topless, naked, bikini or lingerie jumps. My personal belief is that there's nothing wrong with nudity if you want to be free. It's perfectly natural. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
