Kris 0 #1 August 25, 2003 So, we just finished up with a great 4-way sit dive... Track clear, check, check, open. Now, I'm open and I'm checking for traffic and doing my housekeeping (stowing slider, loosening chest-strap), I see Cody under his FX, I see Davinia under her Stiletto...where's Chris? Couldn't see him but my way was clear so I start getting into pattern to setup for my landing and carve. (Sweet landing BTWAs I'm gathering up my canopy, I see Marcus Thornton and another jumper looking skyward, away from Cody & Davinia....It was the other guy under his reserve. They said his canopy was folded like it had a line-over and spinning really bad before he chopped it. Well, it wasn't a line-over, it was a massively hard opening. I've seen pics of ripped canopies but nothing like this. One complete cell (yes kids, both chambers) blew out completely from top to bottom, front to back. The only thing holding the canopy together was the tape around the nose. It was a 1991 Sabre 150 (possibly a 170) and I'm pretty sure it's totalled. He's contacting PD about it on Monday. This was his first cutaway and he handled it like a champ. Noticed the problem and immediately took care of business. He stated that he packed it just like he has always packed it with quartered slider and tightly rolled tail. The brakes were stowed and the slider wasn't collapsed.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #2 August 25, 2003 Holy shit Batman. blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottjaco 0 #3 August 25, 2003 wow, goes to show, it's hard to tell if a canapy is close to blowing up! The canapy looks like it was in pretty good conditions before it blew out, judging by the pictures. When I was on student status, I used to love flying this PD-260 made of F1-11. The colors were bright so I figured it was newer. Some student had a "hard opening" and 2 middle cells were completly blown out! worse than your picture! scott Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ojf1982 0 #4 August 25, 2003 My first cutaway happened on my old Stiletto 135 which had approximately 1000 jumps(I had put 200 on it), and on opening 1 and a half cells on the left hand side blew out. Amazingly it wasnt diving or turning just floating there and realizing that i wasnt even going to attempt a controlability check i chopped it.The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over - Hunter S. Thompson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasmin 0 #5 August 25, 2003 hmmm...bugger!! Nice pics...xj "I wouldn't recommend picking a fight with the earth...but then I wouldn't recommend picking a fight with a car either, and that's having tried both." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #6 August 25, 2003 Ummm......... OW. That will definitely put a damper on the next jump........ Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #7 August 25, 2003 Do you know approx. how many jumps the canopy has on it at the time?? I know several jumpers who in order to tame the openings of their sabres, got into the habbit of folding the outside 4 cells into their center cells during their pack job which can cause the center cell to blow out like that on a hard opening......could this have been a cause??? Blue ones, sds=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #8 August 25, 2003 Quotethe outside 4 cells into their center cells during their pack job If I'm not mistaken, PD recommends to ROLL THE NOSE or FOLD IT leaving the center cell exposed when packing Sabres.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shunkka 0 #9 August 25, 2003 ouchhhhhhhh nice one ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRHSkyPrincess 0 #10 August 25, 2003 Holy shit. Very bad juju there, very bad...***************** Attitude is everything! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nubain1 0 #11 August 25, 2003 Kinda looks like what I did to my Spectre except it weas a bottom skin that ripped from the nose to tail on the second cell from the end.Still waitng to hear back from PD about it.Been 3months now.Last I heard they had the cell replaced and was test jumping it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casie 0 #12 August 25, 2003 Glad to see everyone is fine! Those pictures are pretty self explanatory......dang!~Porn Kitty WARNING: Goldschlager causes extreme emotional outbursts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiverRick 0 #13 August 25, 2003 Quotewow, goes to show, it's hard to tell if a canapy is close to blowing up! The canapy looks like it was in pretty good conditions before it blew out, judging by the pictures. When I was on student status, I used to love flying this PD-260 made of F1-11. The colors were bright so I figured it was newer. Some student had a "hard opening" and 2 middle cells were completly blown out! worse than your picture! scott I had the same thing happen to my new Sabre (early nineties). It had less than 200 jumps on it. PD blamed it on packing but repaired it for free. The good part was that it happened on a beach jump in Sebastion and all the whuffos lined up to buy me drinks so that they could talk to me about it. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayneRATS 0 #14 August 25, 2003 has the dude got any injuries? bad back etc?------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #15 August 25, 2003 Quote Do you know approx. how many jumps the canopy has on it at the time?? I know several jumpers who in order to tame the openings of their sabres, got into the habbit of folding the outside 4 cells into their center cells during their pack job which can cause the center cell to blow out like that on a hard opening......could this have been a cause???Quote I sure hope not, since that's how I pack and my Sabre has close to 500 jumps on it. I've always roll the ends into the middle cell. Living in Colorado I want a nice opening.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Katzeye 0 #16 August 25, 2003 That'll teach him to pack in a phone booth! Just kidding, kudos for doing the right thing and landing safely. Is a chicken omelette redundant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kris 0 #17 August 26, 2003 For those that asked, here is the info... The canopy only had a few hundred jumps on it. The jumper is okay with no back or neck injuries.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites aeromobile 0 #18 August 26, 2003 ouch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PilotMike 0 #19 August 27, 2003 He's lucky it was parts of his canopy ripping/breaking and not parts of him... -------- Benefitting from the 'free capture of verticality.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #20 August 27, 2003 Looks like his kids might've packed it, after they "forgot" for a couple hours AND rolled the lawnmower over it a couple time... "Oh God, dad's gonna KILL us! Better just pack it, he'll think it blew up and owe beer!". But all in all, another live skydiver with a cutaway tail of derring-do. Well done! Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites darkwing 4 #21 August 27, 2003 Generally speaking a canopy that old would have seriously decreased tear strength. Such a decrease is not at all obvious from looking at the canopy, which might even look to be in fairly good shape. On a related note, I'm starting to become concerned over the incidence of "slammer" openings, regardless of whether or not they cause canopy damage. I think we need to start tracking them. It seems NO canopy is immune. Slammers can be career or even life threatening. I am not convinced that every slammer can be attributed to a packing error. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites firediver 0 #22 August 28, 2003 duct tape....lotsa duct tape.... Skydiving isn't scary;...but clowns...CLOWNS are scary! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #23 August 28, 2003 Quoteduct tape....lotsa duct tape.... Rip stop tape Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites codyguest 0 #24 August 31, 2003 Just wanted to clear up some things. Number one I Cody was not on the jump it was Peter. Number two it was not a line over and the canopy had 350 jumps on it. Plus he pack the parachute in about 3min. Number three he might have still been in a track or didn't give a good time to slow down. He was all so just starting out learning to free fly and might have been going a little to fast when pulling. He had some makes on his chin from the opening but he was just fine.cody skydiver kid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kris 0 #25 August 31, 2003 Yup. Pretty much everything I said except for mixing you & Peter up. I didn't add the part about his possibly dumping in a track, or not being slowed down enough, because it was pure specualtion at that point.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Katzeye 0 #16 August 25, 2003 That'll teach him to pack in a phone booth! Just kidding, kudos for doing the right thing and landing safely. Is a chicken omelette redundant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #17 August 26, 2003 For those that asked, here is the info... The canopy only had a few hundred jumps on it. The jumper is okay with no back or neck injuries.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PilotMike 0 #19 August 27, 2003 He's lucky it was parts of his canopy ripping/breaking and not parts of him... -------- Benefitting from the 'free capture of verticality.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #20 August 27, 2003 Looks like his kids might've packed it, after they "forgot" for a couple hours AND rolled the lawnmower over it a couple time... "Oh God, dad's gonna KILL us! Better just pack it, he'll think it blew up and owe beer!". But all in all, another live skydiver with a cutaway tail of derring-do. Well done! Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 4 #21 August 27, 2003 Generally speaking a canopy that old would have seriously decreased tear strength. Such a decrease is not at all obvious from looking at the canopy, which might even look to be in fairly good shape. On a related note, I'm starting to become concerned over the incidence of "slammer" openings, regardless of whether or not they cause canopy damage. I think we need to start tracking them. It seems NO canopy is immune. Slammers can be career or even life threatening. I am not convinced that every slammer can be attributed to a packing error. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firediver 0 #22 August 28, 2003 duct tape....lotsa duct tape.... Skydiving isn't scary;...but clowns...CLOWNS are scary! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #23 August 28, 2003 Quoteduct tape....lotsa duct tape.... Rip stop tape Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codyguest 0 #24 August 31, 2003 Just wanted to clear up some things. Number one I Cody was not on the jump it was Peter. Number two it was not a line over and the canopy had 350 jumps on it. Plus he pack the parachute in about 3min. Number three he might have still been in a track or didn't give a good time to slow down. He was all so just starting out learning to free fly and might have been going a little to fast when pulling. He had some makes on his chin from the opening but he was just fine.cody skydiver kid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #25 August 31, 2003 Yup. Pretty much everything I said except for mixing you & Peter up. I didn't add the part about his possibly dumping in a track, or not being slowed down enough, because it was pure specualtion at that point.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
