1st jump blown bottom skin cell

[atsaubrey 0]

How likely is it to blow a 3 ft long hole along a seam on a bottom cell on a brand new canopy? I did yesterday and am curious how likely it happens.

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[DeNReN 0]

That sucks man....and looks like it was very likely as it happened

And you should know better....more info will be asked for...speed at deployment...extra hard opening etc etc etc

[FlyinseivLP2 0]

I would say your size has something to do with it. Had a friend about your size that would blow up canopies a good bit. PD made him a Sabre that was super reinforced.He eventually quit jumping cause he was afraid he might blow up his reserve.

[billvon 2,380]

>How likely is it to blow a 3 ft long hole along a seam on a bottom cell on a brand new canopy?

If there was an inherent problem with the fabric or construction of the canopy, it will most likely be seen at the first jump. In the electronics industry we call this phenomena "infant mortality." There's a failure curve we call the 'bathtub curve' because it's high initially (due to infant mortality) low in the middle and then starts rising towards the end of its life as wear items start to wear out.

[sd-slider 0]

I was there @ deployment and we were cruisin' @ about ~140 (via Pro-Track on the ankle) when he threw. I watched the opening as I tracked away and it didn't seem rough or ABnormal from my view.

Still sucks though!.

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[PhreeZone 14]

140? Thats about 20 mph over speed of a normal deployment. Excess force on the canopy can easly result in a blown canopy.

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[Anvilbrother 0]

Damn dude that sucks, have you spoken to the canopy maker yet? Did you land it, or chop it?

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[midnightrider 0]

you were jumping a 320?? i've had a PD rep tell me they drop tested PDR 113's (dont really know the difference in construction) with three hundred lb weights at terminal (over 200 maybe??)..he swore it snapped the risers and did no damage to the canopy..140 is fast but not fast enough to blow a canopy up (typically anyways)

[atsaubrey 0]

I didn't have a hard opening but it was on the brisk side but far from hard. (anything is brisk when i was getting 500 ft+ snivels before) As far as speed goes I never went above 140 and was slowing down before deployment (Neptune). Guesstimate would be about 135 at the time I threw. It does appear it does happen and that is what i was looking for. I did not chop it andonce under canopy I did notice a small "hole" that appeared to be a crossport. I have a all white bottom skin and the hole appeared to be yellow which is the color next to the black cell that was blown. When I say hole it only looked to be about 3" in diameter. We didn't notice the actual tear until we went looking for the hole. My guess is it was a small hole that continued to go as I did my checks and a few spirals. I changed my info to protect the manufactuer, I don't care to start a manufactuer A over B session.

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[airtwardo 6]

As I said in the PM...

I would think it's a manufactures defect, it does happen.

Document the stuff we talked about and return it, that company stands behind their products and you shouldn't have a problem getting it fixed.

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[EvilLurker 2]

The manufacturer needs to see the canopy as soon as possible. It may be bad fabric and the flaw might extend to other canopies, or it's a manufacturing defect and they need to see that, too. Glad you made it out okay. It sounds like a seam ripped from your description. I think you're a "test jumper" every time you buy a new canopy, I always opened high on the first few jumps, just in case. That may be the lesson in this.

[Anvilbrother 0]

You might be able to get the right colors this time if it ripped in the right spot right?

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[mjosparky 3]

Glad to see you dealt with it and landed safely.

I know the manufacture you dealt with and Airtwardo knows them very well. Follow the advice he gave you in PM and I am sure it will be handled.

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[outlawphx 1]

That sucks man! I hope the manufacturer does right by you.

[atsaubrey 0]

It appears all will be well from the manufacturer.

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[outlawphx 1]

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and a few spirals.

That probably wasn't a good idea with a known canopy problem.

[outlawphx 1]

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It appears all will be well from the manufacturer.

Good to hear! So the question is, are you going to try another one just like it, or get something else?

[atsaubrey 0]

Don't know yet..actually waiting to talk to the manufacturer and imagine they will want to see the canopy before we decide if something else is needed or if it was just a flaw when it was made.

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[nate_1979 9]

Dude, that sucks.... I heard about it at the DZ, I got there after it happened.. Hopefully you get it all figured out ASAP

So, when are you, eric, and me gonna do a three way, you guys can just tow my ass.

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[atsaubrey 0]

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and a few spirals.

That probably wasn't a good idea with a known canopy problem.

After opening I didn't know I had a bad cell until I landed. If I saw the problem I would more than likely chopped it.

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[Joellercoaster 6]

Man, after all the trouble you went to to get a decent-sized main, container, etc... now this!

Hopefully you're accruing huge amounts of Gear Karma.

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[skymiles 3]

So what did the manufacturer say and what are they going to do?

Phil

[dgskydive 0]

Had a friend once that had his entire canopy blowup on jump number 1. I mean shreds of it were falling all over the place. It happens from time to time.

Dom

[Superman32 0]

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Had a friend once that had his entire canopy blowup on jump number 1. I mean shreds of it were falling all over the place. It happens from time to time.

I just hope that doesn't happen with a reserve

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