nigelh 0 #1 December 4, 2005 Hi everybody, Hopefully you'll all now have your December Skydive Mag and would've found the Council election forms in the pack, I would just like to say..... "Please Vote for Me!!" There are 22 candidates and 15 spaces, of which you have 15 votes. You do NOT have to use all 15 votes, but you must mark each candidate with "YES or NO" If you don't, it will be invalid, and last time a couple of hundred were invalid. So if you want to say 'YES' for less than 15 (i.e Just Me ) and 'NO' for everyone else.... That would be okay too! Please use your vote, It takes only a few moments to do! Nigel Holland-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skytash 0 #2 December 4, 2005 It's really good to see that there are so many candidates, a few years ago there weren't even 15 and we didn't get to vote. To all those who are always wingeing about 'the BPA does this or that which they shouldn't' this is your chance to make a difference! tashDon't ever save anything for a special occasion. Being alive is a special occasion. Avril Sloe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjiimmyyt 0 #3 December 4, 2005 Why should we vote for you? Any reasons, you know, like what you'll do for BPA members etc? Kinda need more reasons than I know your name from here. "This isn't an iron lung, people. You can actually disconnect and not die." -Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joebud321 0 #4 December 4, 2005 QuoteWhy should we vote for you? Any reasons, you know, like what you'll do for BPA members etc? Kinda need more reasons than I know your name from here. yep id like to know why u should get our vote too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joebud321 0 #5 December 4, 2005 Oooops ok... done my research and it seems ur a freak flyer!!!!! ok u got my vote ....lets keep the crustly old belly flyers outa the council Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pincheck 0 #6 December 4, 2005 Tsk,Tsk Nigel a shameless plug for election. Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjiimmyyt 0 #7 December 4, 2005 QuoteTsk,Tsk Nigel a shameless plug for election. No problem with the plug, just want to know why he's standing... At least Nigel knows what the internet is "This isn't an iron lung, people. You can actually disconnect and not die." -Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigelh 0 #8 December 4, 2005 Okay... Well..... I am currently the Artistics Rep, at just 25 i am the Youngest Council member, But i'm not scared of the older people I want to see the development of our sport, and because i have no financial connections with Skydiving, I help push what will benefit the jumpers, and not peoples back pockets. Nigel-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjiimmyyt 0 #9 December 4, 2005 I know you won't let the older guys pick on you. Do you think that DZ owners/directors should be allowed to be on the board of the organistion that regulates them? Or is it inevitable that with the small group of us in the UK that jump? You've probably got my vote, I think you've done ok, but I'd be interested in your response... "This isn't an iron lung, people. You can actually disconnect and not die." -Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweep 0 #10 December 4, 2005 QuoteDo you think that DZ owners/directors should be allowed to be on the board of the organistion that regulates them? Or is it inevitable that with the small group of us in the UK that jump? I don't think BPA council should be entirely DZOs, but since DZOs are members of the BPA and pay the same BPA membership the others of us pay, I don't think they should be excluded from council. The other argument your question prompts is that the BPA regulates all skydivers through STC and the ops manual, so should skydivers be allowed to sit on the board? Ultimately I think that the BPA council needs to be a balanced group representing everyone's interests, whether DZOs, Students, Free flyers, FS jumpers, Accuracy and Artistics.... maybe even canopy pilots.. Just my opinion as a member. I'm not standing but I'd recommend Kieran Brady, Eddie Jones and Ralph Fielding (current council members) and Roy Clarke (a newbie, nominated by me) for consideration... Sweep---- Yay! I'm now a 200 jump wonder.... Still a know-it-all tho.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjiimmyyt 0 #11 December 5, 2005 Maybe we should make a similar thing to USPA GMs. If you're a commercial DZ you pay bigger fees. Maybe based on the amount of tandems you do each year? "This isn't an iron lung, people. You can actually disconnect and not die." -Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damion75 0 #12 December 5, 2005 QuoteI would just like to say..... "Please Vote for Me!!" doesn't this count as advertising?! *************** Not one shred of evidence supports the theory that life is serious - look at the platypus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #13 December 5, 2005 Only if, when elected, he provides a service . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
navaga 0 #14 December 5, 2005 hey its nice to have a young head on the council who can put across fresh ideas about the developments of the extending diversifications that this sport is experiencing, and will experience in years to come.. you've definitely gotten my vote.. 'live fast, die hard..' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justdumi 0 #15 December 5, 2005 Quote I would just like to say..... "Please Vote for Me!!"Quote Howzit china!? Are you sure we can vote for moffies? Dumi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nigelh 0 #16 December 5, 2005 I agree with what Sweep said (all except his recommeneded votes of course! teehee) The Council needs a good blend of people from DZO's, CCI's, Instructors, Packers and even Fun Jumpers. That way we represent the majority of opinions within the Skydiving Community. Nigel As for Dumi...... ha..... ha..... -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoop 0 #17 December 5, 2005 Out of interest, are any of the people on the council qualified as DZ pilots? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites damion75 0 #18 December 5, 2005 QuoteOnly if, when elected, he provides a service . Knowing him, you wouldn't want him servicing you. Even if he asks nicely... *************** Not one shred of evidence supports the theory that life is serious - look at the platypus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Adriandavies 0 #19 December 5, 2005 I think Kieran Brady is a pilot. Angela Hickling from Langar is involved with the BPA on the flying committee although she is not on the council itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deleted 0 #20 December 5, 2005 So what exactly does a council member do then? From reading the minutes in the mag it seems to me like all the important stuff is decided by STC, and then the council just agree with it, (except in a recent event) everything else is just crap to make you all think the BPA is a democracy. Not that i am anti BPA i quite like some of the old gits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sweep 0 #21 December 5, 2005 Kieran Brady is a Club Chief Pilot, he also does a lot of work liasing with the CAA regarding flying ops for parachuting (eg assisting Black Knights in getting their Porter sorted) in addition to the other Council work he does. Not sure about the others, I think Jimmy White became a CCP this year. Sweep---- Yay! I'm now a 200 jump wonder.... Still a know-it-all tho.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyliving_Dave 0 #22 December 5, 2005 QuoteThe Council needs a good blend of people from DZO's, CCI's, Instructors, Packers and even Fun Jumpers. What's that all about? Why should fun jumpers be seen any differently? The sport couldn't exist without DZOs, packers, instructors and so on but neither could it exist without regular punters who make their money elsewhere and spend it on jump tickets. I think fun jumpers can feel very distant from the BPA as they don't have much directly to do it with apart from competitions and a painful cheque once a year. The accounts show a drop in memberships over last year and I'd happily bet a frosty beer that a lot of those people were fun jumpers. Nigel, if I've got the wrong impression here then please tell me. I just think sometimes throwaway comments can be telling and that one jumped off the page at me. Are you a fun jumper? Do you make some money from the sport? What do you think could be done to keep people upbeat and involved? Just pick a couple and answer them -------------------------------------------------- 'Everybody needs a mate called Dave' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Bigwind 0 #23 December 5, 2005 QuoteI think Kieran Brady is a pilot. Angela Hickling from Langar is involved with the BPA on the flying committee although she is not on the council itself. Angela is a wonderful lady, she's been very supportive towards me when things went bad once. Same with Dave Hickling, i've got alot of time for them, they run a very good ship at Langar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pincheck 0 #24 December 5, 2005 No i think you may be right some people decided that the increase in membership fees was to much for them to swallow. so they either left the sport or joined the uspa and now go to the states for 2-3 week a year and bang in large jump numbers. If you don't vote people don't bitch about the council when it comes time for the annual 3 % increase in membership fee. Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nigelh 0 #25 December 6, 2005 I wasn't really saying anything about fun jumpers, I guess my choice of wording wasn't ideal, but i was just trying to cover everyone in the sport. Regards what the Council actually do, The Council is divided into Committees, they are Competitions, Communications and Development. There's also the STC, which is made up of CCI's. They all have their own meetings, which are minuted and then go to council to get accepted, Council Meetings also cover other areas, but what's discussed changes all the time. We have a Council Meeting tonight and everyone is welcome along. Existing Council will be there and those standing for Council should be there too if you would like to know a bit more before you vote. Nigel-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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nigelh 0 #16 December 5, 2005 I agree with what Sweep said (all except his recommeneded votes of course! teehee) The Council needs a good blend of people from DZO's, CCI's, Instructors, Packers and even Fun Jumpers. That way we represent the majority of opinions within the Skydiving Community. Nigel As for Dumi...... ha..... ha..... -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #17 December 5, 2005 Out of interest, are any of the people on the council qualified as DZ pilots? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damion75 0 #18 December 5, 2005 QuoteOnly if, when elected, he provides a service . Knowing him, you wouldn't want him servicing you. Even if he asks nicely... *************** Not one shred of evidence supports the theory that life is serious - look at the platypus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adriandavies 0 #19 December 5, 2005 I think Kieran Brady is a pilot. Angela Hickling from Langar is involved with the BPA on the flying committee although she is not on the council itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deleted 0 #20 December 5, 2005 So what exactly does a council member do then? From reading the minutes in the mag it seems to me like all the important stuff is decided by STC, and then the council just agree with it, (except in a recent event) everything else is just crap to make you all think the BPA is a democracy. Not that i am anti BPA i quite like some of the old gits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweep 0 #21 December 5, 2005 Kieran Brady is a Club Chief Pilot, he also does a lot of work liasing with the CAA regarding flying ops for parachuting (eg assisting Black Knights in getting their Porter sorted) in addition to the other Council work he does. Not sure about the others, I think Jimmy White became a CCP this year. Sweep---- Yay! I'm now a 200 jump wonder.... Still a know-it-all tho.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyliving_Dave 0 #22 December 5, 2005 QuoteThe Council needs a good blend of people from DZO's, CCI's, Instructors, Packers and even Fun Jumpers. What's that all about? Why should fun jumpers be seen any differently? The sport couldn't exist without DZOs, packers, instructors and so on but neither could it exist without regular punters who make their money elsewhere and spend it on jump tickets. I think fun jumpers can feel very distant from the BPA as they don't have much directly to do it with apart from competitions and a painful cheque once a year. The accounts show a drop in memberships over last year and I'd happily bet a frosty beer that a lot of those people were fun jumpers. Nigel, if I've got the wrong impression here then please tell me. I just think sometimes throwaway comments can be telling and that one jumped off the page at me. Are you a fun jumper? Do you make some money from the sport? What do you think could be done to keep people upbeat and involved? Just pick a couple and answer them -------------------------------------------------- 'Everybody needs a mate called Dave' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigwind 0 #23 December 5, 2005 QuoteI think Kieran Brady is a pilot. Angela Hickling from Langar is involved with the BPA on the flying committee although she is not on the council itself. Angela is a wonderful lady, she's been very supportive towards me when things went bad once. Same with Dave Hickling, i've got alot of time for them, they run a very good ship at Langar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pincheck 0 #24 December 5, 2005 No i think you may be right some people decided that the increase in membership fees was to much for them to swallow. so they either left the sport or joined the uspa and now go to the states for 2-3 week a year and bang in large jump numbers. If you don't vote people don't bitch about the council when it comes time for the annual 3 % increase in membership fee. Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nigelh 0 #25 December 6, 2005 I wasn't really saying anything about fun jumpers, I guess my choice of wording wasn't ideal, but i was just trying to cover everyone in the sport. Regards what the Council actually do, The Council is divided into Committees, they are Competitions, Communications and Development. There's also the STC, which is made up of CCI's. They all have their own meetings, which are minuted and then go to council to get accepted, Council Meetings also cover other areas, but what's discussed changes all the time. We have a Council Meeting tonight and everyone is welcome along. Existing Council will be there and those standing for Council should be there too if you would like to know a bit more before you vote. Nigel-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
pincheck 0 #24 December 5, 2005 No i think you may be right some people decided that the increase in membership fees was to much for them to swallow. so they either left the sport or joined the uspa and now go to the states for 2-3 week a year and bang in large jump numbers. If you don't vote people don't bitch about the council when it comes time for the annual 3 % increase in membership fee. Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigelh 0 #25 December 6, 2005 I wasn't really saying anything about fun jumpers, I guess my choice of wording wasn't ideal, but i was just trying to cover everyone in the sport. Regards what the Council actually do, The Council is divided into Committees, they are Competitions, Communications and Development. There's also the STC, which is made up of CCI's. They all have their own meetings, which are minuted and then go to council to get accepted, Council Meetings also cover other areas, but what's discussed changes all the time. We have a Council Meeting tonight and everyone is welcome along. Existing Council will be there and those standing for Council should be there too if you would like to know a bit more before you vote. Nigel-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
