anewempire 0 #1 April 10, 2006 does anyone else have "that guy" at their dz where you are pretty sure he's going to end up killing himself or getting seriously hurt because he thinks of himself way above his skill level? it doesn't seem to matter what other people tell him about his over confident flying and canopy skills. i'm just waiting for the day i hear the news. maybe he'll learn before something bad happens Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #2 April 10, 2006 have the DZO or and instructor give him the "T.U.G. T.U.B talk" Take Up Golf or Take Up Bowling....before you kill yourself and.or someone else. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 3 #3 April 10, 2006 hmm, I'm surprised that guy aint me.CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #4 April 10, 2006 Quotehmm, I'm surprised that guy aint me. Are you sure it's not? Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, more money. Why do they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigern13 0 #5 April 10, 2006 Well, I know we have one for sure. Maybe two if I am the other but nobody is telling me. "I love 'lamp'." -SKYMAMA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 1 #6 April 10, 2006 used to. he took up base jumping and haven't seen him in awhile MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #7 April 10, 2006 Quotedoes anyone else have "that guy" at their dz where you are pretty sure he's going to end up killing himself or getting seriously hurt because he thinks of himself way above his skill level? We did....he cut away from a perfectly good main down at Elsinore.....fumbled for the reserve and died. There are more...it just takes time for them to manifest themselves. bozo bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #8 April 10, 2006 Yep, we have a few that are on the "bounce/biff bingo" list. It's just a matter of time.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #9 April 10, 2006 Sure, we call 'em DGIT (Digit) or "Dead Guy In Training.""There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vectracide 0 #10 April 11, 2006 I had that guy leave the Cessna about 1 second after i did on a H&P just this weekend. In the plane, I laid out the exit and landing order. Due to WL, I would leave and land first. So, I saw my talk being completely ignored so I was watchful. After I left the plane, I rolled on my back to see if he was anywhere near me, and sure as shit, there he was damn near in my airspace. I had to track 180 and open at around 2.7. Irritated to say the least. Then I realized that this guy opened lower than I did, forcing me to bring it down quick. I was in the saddle at 2300 and he was a good 3-500 below me. There is no way I would have been to hang out for this guy. Then I pooched my setup. Never again on a H&P with this guy, or before him on any FF jump. Some people just don't listen to a damn thing you say, even when they should know better. 450 jumps and a coach 1. Kinda sad. edit to add: I believe that everyone deserves a chance to be learned. I have attempted this before at another DZ with a dude that does stupid shit. It didn't have any effect with him. Perhaps I will give it another try with someone else. I hope I can help him realize the error of his thinking, or at least assist him in making better decisions thru mentoring. ------------------------------ Controlled and Deliberate..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GraficO 0 #11 April 11, 2006 yup... we've had a few... but one sticks out in my head. This young gentleman had natural talent, he picked things up quickly and every time someone mentioned that he was going too fast he would always speed up. Frustrated with being at a small DZ... he went West to a big DZ mecca... where he went even faster. While he was dropping canopy sizes like old underwear he forgot 2 major rules and one minor rule: 1- Complacency in any extreme sport WILL kill you. 2- Understanding what can happen doesn't replace the experience needed to deal with it. Minor- Just because your friends are doing it doesn't mean you have to as well. Right now... I don't have any idea exactly where he is right now. I just hope that the desire and the drive that put him in a wheelchair is enough to get him out of it again. I certainly don't wish him any ill will and if anything I hope he recovers to some point of normalcy... point is that I shouldn't (as well as other people) have only to say "I told you so." GraficOGraficO "A Mind is a terrible thing to taste." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #12 April 11, 2006 We actually give out "T.G." numbers, but they are more for people who break objects by being careless/ short bus special. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #13 April 11, 2006 Quote Understanding what can happen doesn't replace the experience needed to deal with it. Just thought that bore repeating...Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cutaway68 4 #14 April 11, 2006 "that guy" at my dropzone is a guy that everyone likes to hang out with on the ground but is afraid to be in the air with. He has been in the sport for a long time ( at least 30 years off and on, mostly off) but doesn't have big jump #'s. He has had various gear issues (blown up canopy, aad fire after low-pull, etc.) as well as not giving enough time between exits and ending up under previous group upon deployment. Several people have spoken with "that guy" and he just complacently shrugs it off and laughs. Nobody wants to give him the golf or chess speech because he is such a nice guy that is great to hang out with over a beer and hear about the "old days". Don't Pull Low... Unless You ARE!!! The pessimist says, "It can't get any worse than this." The optimist says, "Sure, it can." Be fun, have safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoRules 0 #15 April 12, 2006 my personal favorite is "a statistic waiting to happen..." ~ * Life Has No Rules * ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites