jeffmullins 0 #1 June 23, 2006 Anyone know a David Leif Brandal from Canada. I was involved in a transaction with him starting in December. I sent him a canopy he was interested in, and in return he sent me a rig as collateral so he could jump the canopy and see how he liked it. He kept stalling on payment, and constantly fed me stories of how he was getting the money together. Eventually he offered to return the canopy when I told him I was selling his rig, but as usual no canopy was sent. I still have his rig and am about to put it in the classifieds. If anyone knows him personally please have him contact me asap. I believe there is a real person by this name because it is embroidered on a brand new wings container. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #2 June 23, 2006 What size is the container? Looking for a good deal... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airgord 1 #3 June 23, 2006 What part of Canada? I know some people up there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #4 June 24, 2006 QuoteWhat part of Canada? I know some people up there. Gotta love the grapevine David, DAVID, listen up, "Bad Boy, Bad boy, what you going do when they come for you. You just got listed on skydiving's version of AMW, you won't be able to hide.Good luck Jeff. Everyone else Bump this thread till David Leeif Brandal does the right thing. Shouldn't take to long R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffmullins 0 #5 June 26, 2006 The container is a smaller wings, I believe the largest it looks like it can hold would be a 120. It'll go for a good price, but I still need to make up some of the loss on the canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloudi 0 #6 June 26, 2006 QuoteBad Boy, Bad boy, what you going do when they come for you. You just got listed on skydiving's version of AMW, you won't be able to hide. Hmmm...can I post the names of people who won't return demo's? I'm not allowed to post stolen gear in the mags, because I know who has them and the police say I can't file a report because I willingly sent it to them. There aren't many (faith in humanity restored), but with the few there are...it sure would be nice to ask for help from fellow skydivers. Mods, whatcha think? Kim Watch as I attempt, with no slight of hand, to apply logic and reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #7 June 26, 2006 I think you ought to.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #8 June 26, 2006 QuoteI think you ought to... ...check with your boss before doing so . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloudi 0 #9 June 26, 2006 Ya think? No point in checking with the boss if the Mod's won't let me do it in the first place, though. I would think the risk of the public emabarrassment of being looked at as a thief would prevent a lot of the "babysitting" I do right now. Oddly, I would prefer to spend my time answering people's questions and actually sending them canopies, than chasing down grown adults to "remind" them a canopy is due back. Weird, huh? Kim Watch as I attempt, with no slight of hand, to apply logic and reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloudi 0 #10 June 26, 2006 ...and David, whoever you are. Send Jeff his canopy back. Stealing is wrong. If he wants his canopy back and you haven't sent it, that is stealing, my friend, no matter what you gave for collateral. Stealing from your own "brother." You should be ashamed of yourself (or have one hell of an explanation). Jeff, what is the canopy/size/colors? It may help if people know what to be looking for in case David has "relocated" or used the name on the rig that may actually have been stolen also. Kim Watch as I attempt, with no slight of hand, to apply logic and reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #11 June 26, 2006 Any here in Cali? Whats the fee paid for collection? Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloudi 0 #12 June 26, 2006 QuoteWhats the fee paid for collection? The promise that I won't bust ass in front of you putting my rig on again and actually make the jump. Kim Watch as I attempt, with no slight of hand, to apply logic and reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #13 June 26, 2006 Quote...and David, whoever you are. Send Jeff his canopy back. Stealing is wrong. If he wants his canopy back and you haven't sent it, that is stealing, my friend, no matter what you gave for collateral. Stealing from your own "brother." You should be ashamed of yourself (or have one hell of an explanation). Jeff, what is the canopy/size/colors? It may help if people know what to be looking for in case David has "relocated" or used the name on the rig that may actually have been stolen also. Hi Cloudi After seeing David Leeif Brandal's name posted here with this unresolved issue would you as a gear dealer do business with this person before the canopy issue is resolved? Bad boy..... What you going to do.R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloudi 0 #14 June 26, 2006 Quotewould you as a gear dealer do business with this person before the canopy issue is resolved? Only if I can send a competitor's canopy. If I don't get it back...oh well! Odds are that I will get it back, though. People usually only steal good stuff (sorry, couldn't resist). By the way, I don't work for a gear dealer, silly. I'm up way past my bedtime on a school night...stupid insomnia... Kim Watch as I attempt, with no slight of hand, to apply logic and reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffmullins 0 #15 June 26, 2006 Thanks for interest in this case. Several Canadian jumpers have Pm'd me with the whereabouts of the canopy and David. Apparently he gave it to the DZO as collateral for unpaid bills at the DZ. Hopefully I will get it back soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eiley 0 #16 June 26, 2006 QuoteThanks for interest in this case. Several Canadian jumpers have Pm'd me with the whereabouts of the canopy and David. Apparently he gave it to the DZO as collateral for unpaid bills at the DZ. Hopefully I will get it back soon. I'd be inclined to ask the DZO if you can swap the canopy with the guy's container. Hopefully he/she would do this in good faith especially as it is unlikely he/she can legally hold on to 'collateral' that doesn't actually belong to the person giving it. nothing to see here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #17 June 26, 2006 QuoteThanks for interest in this case. Several Canadian jumpers have Pm'd me with the whereabouts of the canopy and David. Apparently he gave it to the DZO as collateral for unpaid bills at the DZ. Hopefully I will get it back soon. Fuckin hell. Wonder where is reserve is. This really sounds like someone who should give up the sport before Karma bite him in the ass or he has to pawn his lucky boxer shorts. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #18 June 26, 2006 QuoteThanks for interest in this case. Several Canadian jumpers have Pm'd me with the whereabouts of the canopy and David. Apparently he gave it to the DZO as collateral for unpaid bills at the DZ. Hopefully I will get it back soon. BingoDZO, DZO, what you going to do, when they come for you Warning to future thieve's. The internet just makes the skydiving grapevine a lot shorter. I'm guessing David Leeif Brandal just burned his bridge at that DZ. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowwhite 0 #19 June 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteThanks for interest in this case. Several Canadian jumpers have Pm'd me with the whereabouts of the canopy and David. Apparently he gave it to the DZO as collateral for unpaid bills at the DZ. Hopefully I will get it back soon. BingoDZO, DZO, what you going to do, when they come for you Warning to future thieve's. The internet just makes the skydiving grapevine a lot shorter. I'm guessing David Leeif Brandal just burned his bridge at that DZ. R.I.P. And probably a few others as well. We used to post a list of people who stole things from our competitors. They couldn't get stuff from us, too that way. We were friendly competitors and we shared that info to save us all from being burned. HEY DZO's and gear manufacturers, write this guys name down.skydiveTaylorville.org freefallbeth@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #20 June 27, 2006 Quote Hmmm...can I post the names of people who won't return demo's? I'm not allowed to post stolen gear in the mags, because I know who has them and the police say I can't file a report because I willingly sent it to them. I had a former employee, when he was terminated, did not return his company car for two weeks. (He made a copy of the key and took it without asking) He drove it all across the country. Did a bunch of damage to it... The police did nothing - because I gave him the keys - despite the fact I told them, "but the agreement was for a specific period of time and use" - and the insurance company would not pay for the damage because it was intentionally done by someone I authorized... I fought, and the police finally called him. He told the police to &^%$ off, which upset them and they took it personally... I got my car back in minutes and a police report that allowed me to get the insurance money. Oh, and the DA went after him too and I got his paychecks for a while. Never tell the police what you really think, so he learned. Anyway - in that experience I learned that I had to be very clear in the terms of the deal - and the police started to appreciate the fact the return date was not open ended. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 17 #21 June 27, 2006 QuoteHmmm...can I post the names of people who won't return demo's? Its sad that you are not the only representive out there that has this issue. I know Big Air Sportz had some of their demo fleet come up missing too and last I spoke to Brian about it he was not going to replace the canopies since it just was costing too much money to have them stolen all the time. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffmullins 0 #22 June 29, 2006 Thanks to a good DZO up in Canada and dropzone.com I have the canopy back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #23 June 29, 2006 QuoteThanks to a good DZO up in Canada and dropzone.com I have the canopy back. Thanks Jeff for the feedback6day turn from origional post to another DZ.com success story. Canopy dealers, Canopy dealers, what you going to do.......when the bad boys/girls screw you These bottom feeders are adding to your cost of doing business which gets passed on to all your customers. I'm probably preaching to the choir but like beth says and like we've seen with David Leeif Brandal these folks are serial thieves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeG 0 #24 June 29, 2006 Being that I am still on student status, I haven't demoed a canopy yet, but don't manufacturers get a credit card before sending a demo out?_________________________________________ "Knowledge is Power!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #25 June 29, 2006 QuoteBeing that I am still on student status, I haven't demoed a canopy yet, but don't manufacturers get a credit card before sending a demo out? Yep, but it doesn't mean that you can't close the account right after paying for the demo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
