kallend 1,827 #1 August 2, 2004 Was on a biggish way Saturday and one guy had a low altitude reserve deployment. Turns out he had tightened his swoop cords for the jump without testing that he could reach everything. When he went to throw out he couldn't reach the BOC and put his left hand over his head at the same time. After two attempts he just went for the hackey without placing his left hand above his head, and tumbled unstable. In the end he got his reserve out somewhat below 500ft agl, and landed in a wooded area.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyuke 0 #2 August 2, 2004 Maybe a birdman style deployment technique would have saved the day here! That is both hands on BOC pouch, throw PC out, mirroring action with left hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,827 #3 August 2, 2004 QuoteMaybe a birdman style deployment technique would have saved the day here! That is both hands on BOC pouch, throw PC out, mirroring action with left hand. That's what I thought, but I guess someone that hasn't made a birdman jump didn't think of that in the heat of the moment.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #4 August 2, 2004 How many jumps did he have? 500 ft seems pretty low! What was the type of jump, where was breakoff supposed to be, and where did he normally pull or plan to pull on this jump? This reminds me that near my DZ, one of the wooded areas is a bit over 500 ft higher than the landing area... -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsrulz 0 #5 August 2, 2004 Given two unsuccessful attempts to put left hand to head (probably ~5 seconds) and one tumble to stable belly and pull silver(probably another ~5 seconds), that is 2000'. Given deployment altitude of 2500', that would put someone right at 500'. Seems like a good plan until the jumper forgot one of the first thing he learned in his FJC: Pull, Pull at the proper altitude, pull with stability. Better to pull on your back at 2K' than belly at 500'!!! I'm sure this guy can vouch for that! The first time I used my swoop suit, I was unable to reach up to collapse my slider. I had gloves over the top of the cords, so I learned my lesson then. Sounds like someone needs to help this guy with his swoop cord length! I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,827 #6 August 2, 2004 QuoteHow many jumps did he have? 500 ft seems pretty low! What was the type of jump, where was breakoff supposed to be, and where did he normally pull or plan to pull on this jump? This reminds me that near my DZ, one of the wooded areas is a bit over 500 ft higher than the landing area... No idea how many jumps. It was a boogie and he was a visitor. The wooded area was below the level of the proper landing area so he got a bit more altitude to play with. The jump was a 20-ish way RW with breakoff at 4.5.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites