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Controlling the uncontrollable (just a thought)

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Have you ever thought about what breed of people we are? We are a breed that looks down from thirteen thousand feet and only worries about if there are other air craft in the area. Not thinking about the fact that we are about to hurdle to the ground at 120 mph or more and using equipment that has been improved upon day by day though millions of dollars of research and countless testing jumps. Once we hit the ground the only thing on our minds is when is the next load and can I pack in time to get on it.

When you think back to that first day that you were strapped onto a man or woman wearing an oversized backpack, watching the others in the plan having a great time talking and carrying on. Mean while the adrenalin is rushing through your veins, you are short of breath, and you are thinking “when is this guy going to actually attach me to the parachute?” You had so many questions like, what happens if the parachute does not open? Can I fall out of this thing? And has anyone died here doing this? As a beginner you can not help but think about the morbid tales that it seems everyone knows about, when some guy on the news gets killed falling to the earth from a plain. As a novis you do not understand what maid this happen or how it could be stopped.

Is it ever enough? As you continue through your skydiving career do you ever consider the day when you say I am retiring from the sport. As a beginner with 70 jumps I can not yet grasp this concept as everyday I am looking at the weather reports, planning vacations around where the local DZ’s are and reading the SIM manual over and over. I think to my self who would ever want to stop doing such a great sport. It even gets to the point when you do not even consider the cost of a jump ticket. You buy them in bulk to get the best deal and to always have a jump less then a swipe of the pass away. When you get into the sport you know right away if this is something you want. There is no gray area involved with what we are doing. You are either up for the challenge or not.

The Challenge is that we do something that most people in the world grind their teeth at the very mention of falling through the sky. With comments like, I would have a heart attack, I could never do that, and are you crazy. It is the sky against us when it comes to controlling what is know as the uncontrollable of falling through the sky. Yet there are thousands of videos that show people that seem to defy gravity falling upside down, left to right and spinning through the earth looking like it could go on forever. We are but manipulators when we are face first into the wind, gliding around the sky. We now have control over the uncontrollable.

"Falling is the easy part, Landing smoothly is the most importent part!
-DJ Mike

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Interesting thoughts and an interesting perspective.

I disagree with some of it, though.

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When you get into the sport you know right away if this is something you want. There is no gray area involved with what we are doing. You are either up for the challenge or not.



There are absolutely gray areas in our sport. Not everyone comes in and immediately says "I'm hooked." Lots of people get hooked then drift away in 10, 100, 1000 jumps for a whole host of reasons. Others get into it for some other reason (to challenge themselves, to prove a point, to be around someone who is already in the sport) and grow to like/love it more gradually or reluctantly.

Some people actively make the decision every time they go to the DZ of whether this day, today, the reward still outweighs the risk.

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We are but manipulators when we are face first into the wind, gliding around the sky. We now have control over the uncontrollable.



You asked farther up in your post if I'd ever consider the day I'd retire from the sport. I think the day I truly believed that I was controlling the uncontrollable is the day that I quit.

I control the variables that are in my control. I do my best to "control" the ones I don't (for example, choosing a trusted rigger, not going on a jump with someone whose safety skills and awareness I don't trust, speaking up if I'm not comfortable with exit separation other groups are giving me and my group, etc.).

But gravity still controls me and if I fuck up or someone around me fucks up, it doesn't care how many variables I tried to control. It still owns me.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

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I like your questions and thoughts. when I wrote this, it was ment to bring up different points of views from other people. Realisticly there is no right or wrong answers to many questions but just openions.

i like your openion on the Controlling the uncontrollable. I also agree that there are many levels of control and many of them I can not control.

"Falling is the easy part, Landing smoothly is the most importent part!
-DJ Mike

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Most people feel the way you do about the sport when they first get started and most of those quit the sport. For most I think the excitement of it fades, not to say it's not still fun, but maybe not worth the time,money and risk that is envolved. Some see the risks first hand (friend dies, witness a fatality or have their own incident)and quit. For whatever reason most people won't make it 10 years in the sport. I have come to a point where I really don't care if I skydive or not. I'm not sure if I will ever totally quit but if I couldn't jump for a couple years it wouldn't bother. I know I couldn't have said that 10 years ago.

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I have come to a point where I really don't care if I skydive or not. I'm not sure if I will ever totally quit but if I couldn't jump for a couple years it wouldn't bother. I know I couldn't have said that 10 years ago.


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Its all about mindset.
I said this 15 years ago to another group of skydivers ....its as true now as it was then.....

"Skydiving isn't what I do, its what I am"

Any other mindset and youre just a shortterm visitor.


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Have you ever thought about what breed of people we are?



Homo Sapiens.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Any belief that we, as skydivers, are somehow cooler, better, or different is just ego.
As a participant in several extra cirricular activities, motorcycles, martial arts, bodybuilders, musicians, skydivers, I can say that the same attitude exists in ALL of these groups.

Their particular activity sets them apart. Makes them special. Somehow better or above the "average" guy.

Guess what? Its just ego.

We arent better. We are the same.
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Im afraid I dissagree with you there.

I think that what we do defines us to some extent. And who we are defines what we do.

The lengths that we are prepared to go to for the sport we love.

The attitude we have that comes from the sport.

The community we belong to in this sport.

Being a jumper and the ethos around it is so different to non adventure sports.

I have friends that dont jump, but do other adventure sports and know why I jump, and I have friends who do neither and ask why I do what I do.

You are right that being a jumper does not make us better, but it can and does improve us. I have seen so many people gain confidence through this sport only serving to better them.

I dont think "breed" is the right term but those who enjoy adventure sports are most definatly a different "type" of person.

I was a hardcore mountain biker long before I started jumping, giving up riding when I started to spend even wet weekends at the DZ. The people I rode with and competed against were of the same mindset as those I jump with now.
It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.

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"Skydiving isn't what I do, its what I am"

This is the mentality that I have gotten away from. If you let a hobby define your life, well thats a pretty sorry life. I thought that way at one point and then realized that there are alot more important things in life.


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Your opinion I guess. Sorry life ? Hardly.
Ive had a pretty full life.
Got a degree .
Worked a full career that I retired from last year. Raised a family. Still got the wife of 23 years.

Maybe you just didnt do it right. :)


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I am still a newbie skydiver, coming up on my AFF Level 3 jump either this weekend or next (hopefully this one!) but I would like to toss in my $.02 on this topic.

It was only a couple of months ago that I decided to do a tandem jump, but I have always wanted to skydive. I guess the reason I haven't done it before now is because there has been a lot going on in my life that needed sorting out first.

Once I did my tandem, and my videographer, (the REAL) Super Dave, asked me how it was, all I could think about was jumping again, on my own especially.

Most people I talk to about jumping ask me if I was scared and my honest answer is no. Nervous? they ask. Perhaps a small bit. Damn excited? HELL YEAH! I guess if people knew what I've been through in life they might understand why I'm not afraid of jumping, but nothing on Earth equals the thrill of freefalling and piloting my own canopy safely to the ground! Well, being on stage playing guitar to thousands of screaming fans comes pretty close!

What I wonder is this... am I the only one who doesn't feel fear when doing this? Or could I be kidding myself? Maybe my idea of fear is different than other's ideas of it. Could it be that fear and the rush are one and the same, but the names change depending on how you manage the feeling?

I also want to add that I think the jumps are just part of the fun. The people you jump with and hang out with before and after your jumps are a big part of the experience, too. Just being part of the scene is a thrill in-and-of-itself. I'm glad to be part of it!

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"Skydiving isn't what I do, its what I am"

This is the mentality that I have gotten away from. If you let a hobby define your life, well thats a pretty sorry life. I thought that way at one point and then realized that there are alot more important things in life.


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Your opinion I guess. Sorry life ? Hardly.
Ive had a pretty full life.
Got a degree .
Worked a full career that I retired from last year. Raised a family. Still got the wife of 23 years.

Maybe you just didnt do it right. :)


I didn't say my life was sorry. I was saying it's sorry if a skydiver is all that you are. For a few years this was the case for me, I look back now and laugh. Doesn't sound like that is the case with you but is what I got out of your quote. Hopefully what I am right now is a good father and husband. Skydiving is just something I do.

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I didn't say my life was sorry. I was saying it's sorry if a skydiver is all that you are. For a few years this was the case for me, I look back now and laugh. Doesn't sound like that is the case with you but is what I got out of your quote. Hopefully what I am right now is a good father and husband. Skydiving is just something I do.


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I understand what you're saying...but we as 'Human Beans' tend to define ourselves in many ways.

ALMOST like Bozo, Skydiving isn't what I do, it's WHO I am.

I was a skydiver before I was a college student...did both at the same time but I'm STILL Skydiving.

I've worked in the Skydiving 'industry' several times in various capacities, also hammered nails, dug ditches, ran a production department in an aerospace facility, started successful businesses...

Was a Jumper LONG before I ever got married or became a father...now doing all three.



...the single constant of my life's chosen interest / activity has been Skydiving.


I don't 'divide' my passion among the things important in my life, I multiply it.
I'm as passionate about Skydiving as I am about being a good father, a good husband, a good provider...

Although for the most part, the one constant in life is change...

My 'roles' in life have changed many times and will of course do so many times more, before I ultimately reach 'room temperature'...but the one thing I know in my heart that will never change until that time,

~is that I'm a Skydiver. :$











~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

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in reply to "Its all about mindset.
I said this 15 years ago to another group of skydivers ....its as true now as it was then.....

"Skydiving isn't what I do, its what I am"

Any other mindset and youre just a shortterm visitor. "
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OK Bozo , I know where you're coming from with this and respect the 'all or nothing' tude but when expressed out loud this attitude loses something in the 'feeling thru brain out mouth' trip.

Many skydivers do lots of other things as well...da da ;) This can make them even better skydivers .
I've known a few motorheads in my time. They look at skydiving as something so tame they're leaving it for when they retire. They get to go twice as fast right next to the ground.:o

If this sport is all about mindset then delusions are one of the biggest traps out there.

ps ,We're all visitors down here.:)

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"Skydiving isn't what I do, it's WHO I am.

I was a skydiver before I was a college student...did both at the same time but I'm STILL Skydiving.

I've worked in the Skydiving 'industry' several times in various capacities, also hammered nails, dug ditches, ran a production department in an aerospace facility, started successful businesses...

Was a Jumper LONG before I ever got married or became a father...now doing all three.



...the single constant of my life's chosen interest / activity has been Skydiving.


I don't 'divide' my passion among the things important in my life, I multiply it.
I'm as passionate about Skydiving as I am about being a good father, a good husband, a good provider...

Although for the most part, the one constant in life is change...

My 'roles' in life have changed many times and will of course do so many times more, before I "ultimately reach 'room temperature'...but the one thing I know in my heart that will never change until that time,

~is that I'm a Skydiver."


Can I use that at my sendoff. B|

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Personally I have been masturbatng far longer than I have been skydiving. It has been the one constant in my life. Therefore I define myself as a wanker, first and foremost, then a porn addict, then a habitual consumer of Western Star Spreadable Butter. That stuff spread thickon toast. Mmmmmm
"In one way or the other, I'm a bad brother. Word to the motherf**ker." Eazy-E

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Personally I have been masturbatng far longer than I have been skydiving. It has been the one constant in my life. Therefore I define myself as a wanker, first and foremost, then a porn addict, then a habitual consumer of Western Star Spreadable Butter. That stuff spread thickon toast. Mmmmmm



I have been have sex longer than I have been skydiving. So I guess thaqt makes me a Fucker!!

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...the single constant of my life's chosen interest / activity has been Skydiving.


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Notice that I said C H O S E N ...

I'm sure many of you have NO CHOICE in being foremost, above all else...a WANKER! ;)



Jim, don't be such a TOSSER!
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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OK Bozo , I know where you're coming from with this and respect the 'all or nothing' tude but when expressed out loud this attitude loses something in the 'feeling thru brain out mouth' trip.

Many skydivers do lots of other things as well...\--------------------------------------------------------------

I just spent a week and 2000 miles in a motorhome with the wife....didnt even take my gear, does that count ?


bozo
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Wow , i never thought so many people would get upset about an artical and what it brings out.

I still think that it is true that we all have reasons we are so involved with skydiving. For me the thrill of doing something that others fear.

"Falling is the easy part, Landing smoothly is the most importent part!
-DJ Mike

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If you let a hobby define your life, well thats a pretty sorry life. I thought that way at one point and then realized that there are alot more important things in life.



Wait! Back up! I'm having a pretty sorry life?
You mean there's something more important in life for a retired, divorced old guy like me? There is????
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My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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