stratostar 5 #51 November 29, 2006 (bump)know just what you mean and a few fakes myself.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #52 November 29, 2006 Most weekend jumpers are in the 150-200 a year range. People who work at the dz do 900-1000. I tend to log my jumps about once a month, so I know that I have missed a few. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #53 November 29, 2006 QuoteMost weekend jumpers are in the 150-200 a year range. People who work at the dz do 900-1000. I tend to log my jumps about once a month, so I know that I have missed a few. Ack!......Remember International Forum....not every DZ has a turbine... And to stay with the thread.....my jump numbers are arcurate.....I do however fib about my years in sport....that should say 6...but... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #54 November 29, 2006 If someone feels the need to do that then maybe they feel insecure in some way. I had a friend go to Iraq for a whole year yet had 150 extra jumps when he got back i asked him about it and he was like yeah special jumps blah blah blah He was an engineer fucking idiot. Oh well, whatever makes them feel good i guesshttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #55 November 29, 2006 QuoteQuoteMost weekend jumpers are in the 150-200 a year range. People who work at the dz do 900-1000. I tend to log my jumps about once a month, so I know that I have missed a few. Ack!......Remember International Forum....not every DZ has a turbine... A lot of people from The Great White North are arriving as I type. The turbine is one side of it. Jumping all year is the other part. Last weekend, I did 14 jumps as a fun-jumper. (That's rare. Normally it is 3 to 4) People working at the dz can do 5 a day, no problem. Average 20 a week and there is a 1000 for the year. It was a bit too warm on Sunday though. Had to keep the door open on the way up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #56 November 29, 2006 QuoteI'd wager a lot of people now sporting D licences fudged a few jumps to clear 200 to get their D before they bumped it to 500. They should have just created an "E." wasn't it 300 jumps?Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 35 #57 November 29, 2006 Quotewasn't it 300 jumps? nope.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #58 November 29, 2006 Some people just stop logging them on here. I know I haven't updated mine for a couple of years and I suppose this holds true for others. Although jump numbers can show "an" experience level what matters is ability in the sky. If someone has padded the numbers its gonna show. I recall when an indiviual had about the same number as I have posted now and the next thing ya know there were 1,000+ more.... but in the end it makes zero difference to me. No one is the complete authority in every discipline. I am not a skilled FS flier and I admit it, I am not a skilled swooper and I admit that too, but there are few that are out doing the kind of flying that I do. All in all with the greater issues in the world we live in, jump numbers are the least of my concerns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #59 November 29, 2006 I must be nuts--my thinking about the whole #s thing would be the opposite: I.e. I'd think it cooler to have 1,000 jumps and doing all sorts of mad tricks in the air and under canopy and then say, "Eh, I only have 200 jumps. I'm just a natural." Seriously, though. I would think if I told someone (or fudged my log book to show such) I had 3,000 jumps, and then they jumped with me, when I actually only have 1,500 it would show and I'd look pretty silly. Is it just me? I don't get the whole fudging thing just for #s sake. It makes sense if one fudged to meet a rating or something (and not that I agree with doing that), but just for the sake of saying you have more jumps than you do??? That's just silly, imo. If one really wants #s for #s sake, then just go do a bunch of hop-n-pops. They're less expensive, you can do more in a day, and you get great canopy practice. And if you care about the grand #--you get that, too.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #60 November 29, 2006 QuoteAlthough jump numbers can show "an" experience level what matters is ability in the sky. If someone has padded the numbers its gonna show. Is it? Is it going to "show" to the event organizer wondering which "name" to invite? Is it going to "show" to the person coming from overseas looking for the "most qualified" coach? Is it going to "show" to manufacturers who are looking to sponsor the "most qualified" applicants? It's very likely that none of the people I mentioned have ever, or maybe even will ever jump with these people. In that regard, it really hurts the people who actually deserve such recognition when others blatantly pad their logs. I can name very-big names in every discipline (except maybe some of the artistic disciplines) who do it right now. QuoteI recall when an indiviual had about the same number as I have posted now and the next thing ya know there were 1,000+ more.... but in the end it makes zero difference to me. It does, however, make a difference to a lot of people. It matters to each of the individuals I just mentioned above, particularly in a fiscal sense. Many of those organizers, sponsors, potential customers become enamored with these "masters of self promotion" and will bybass a better qualified candidate just because someone else has ramped themself up and tooted their horn louder. QuoteNo one is the complete authority in every discipline. You are absolutely correct, Bets. Some come close though (Rook Nelson is a great example). That's not really relevant to what we are talking about though. What we are talking about is the reason why people feel it neccessary to blatantly pad their logbooks. My answer is that it's always ego driven and it's generally to bolster their reputation and standing in the competition, coaching, sponsorship, organizing, and business sides of the sport. I see those things as a personal affront to other organizers/instructors/coaches/competitors/businessmen who would rather take the high road and get jobs based on their actual personal merit as it relates to jump experiences. Once again, I know people, right now, in almost every single category who blatantly pad their numbers in the thousands. It's sad. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #61 November 29, 2006 Quote I'm a weekend jumper and have a full time job so I only crank out about 200 jumps a year. Now that I'm living at a DZ, I'm hoping to double that amount. I'm a weekend jumper too w/ a real, full-time, work job during the week. Now-a-day's, I'm more in the 200 jumps a year range... ... but once upon a time when work was less involved for me... I was doing between 375 & 425 jumps a year just jumping on the weekends & holidays. I had a run where I jumped every weekend for a little over 3 years... and I do mean every weekend... so it can be done... ... but you do have to abandon all activities whuffos normally do on the weekends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #62 November 29, 2006 I haven't, though I think it would be fun to show up at a dz and say I have like 300 jumps. My current rig wouldn't really give it away but my next one will For what it's worth, I want to make the comment that for the most part I am a weekend jumper, the bulk of my jumps are made on saturday and sunday. I also live in wisconsin, which means for 5-6 months out of the year its cold and I won't make more than 1-2 a weekend, on the average, if that. So far this year I have over 500 jumps and another guy at my dz has over 800. He jumps more tue-friday than I do. I am on staff and that helps but if I had unlimited funds I think I would make just as many even if I wasn't staff. It does get a little boring though. I am glad for winter cause I need a break from 10-20 altitude jumps and 4-8 hop and pops a week. I guess I don't do much other than work and jump so that is how I can make so many.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llkenziell 0 #63 November 29, 2006 No - it would be pointless & I don't want to look seem like someone who's done lots of jumps and still sucks "Living like fallen angels who lost their halos" - Unknown Prophets -Love Life- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #64 November 29, 2006 Well Chuck according to your profile you "train students in every discipline with hard-earned credibility and authority...so what the hell do I know? Sometimes people just need to look at themselves in the mirror as they are casting stones...don't ya think? If people think others are padding their jump numbers ..hell take it up with them personally. I would think that some people have enough drama in their lives without adding to it. QuoteI know people, right now, in almost every single category who blatantly pad their numbers in the thousands. It's sad. Yes as do I and yes it IS sad. Maybe we should call all these people out...where shall I start? Bwahhhhh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beezyshaw 0 #65 November 30, 2006 QuoteMy lazy ass got a C and then ever applied for the D until I wanted to get a tandem rating then sent it in with over 500 jumps even though I only needed I got you there, Eric, I'd been jumping for about 25 years before I broke down and got a D license; I was forced to because of some FAI requirement thing for some event. Back in the day, there wasn't anything you needed a D for that you couldn't do with a C, so I never bothered. A 3393 C 8694 D 18327 (not much bragging rights with a number like that, huh? ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 4 #66 November 30, 2006 I have never even considered it. In my years of jumping I have never seen a case where I thought someone fudged their logbook. I have seen many cases where they logged too few jumps though. Only one more month to go for me in China, then back to the USA!! -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastphil 0 #67 November 30, 2006 QuoteI have never even considered it. In my years of jumping I have never seen a case where I thought someone fudged their logbook. I have seen many cases where they logged too few jumps though. Only one more month to go for me in China, then back to the USA!
