77r 0 #1 April 1, 2007 Why do some cypress have 1 pin and some have 2? What are the disadvantages or advantage of either one aside from price? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #2 April 1, 2007 QuoteWhy do some cypress have 1 pin and some have 2? What are the disadvantages or advantage of either one aside from price? Why do some reserve containers have one closing pin and others have two? Answer this, and you'll have your answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
77r 0 #3 April 1, 2007 Quote Why do some reserve containers have one closing and others have two? Answer this, and you'll have your answer. Same difference. I just want to know why either way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnskydiver688 0 #4 April 1, 2007 Some containers use a two pin reserve release method and some use a one pin reserve release system. Today, I believe a vast majority of containers are the single pin type. So some of the cypres's are from containers that used two pins. You can change a cypres from two pin to one pin by buying a new cutter.Sky Canyon Wingsuiters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #5 April 1, 2007 QuoteWhy do some cypress have 1 pin and some have 2? What are the disadvantages or advantage of either one aside from price? A one pin Cypress will be an advantage if you have a one pin container (most of them) and a disadvantage if you have a two pin container (very few).Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ninjaswooper 0 #6 April 1, 2007 QuoteQuote Why do some reserve containers have one closing and others have two? Answer this, and you'll have your answer. Same difference. I just want to know why either way. You basically just have two different, though similar solutions to the same problem, how to keep the reserve in the container. I can logically see arguments for and against eack system... 2 pins equals half the risk of a premature deployment and twice the risk of a hard reserve pull. Maybe not exact but it is a logical flow. No real reason to pinpoint that I can think of other than manufacturers having unique solutions to identical problems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #7 April 1, 2007 Quote 2 pins equals half the risk of a premature deployment and twice the risk of a hard reserve pull. Actually, 2 pins reduces the amount of force compared to a one pin system where all of the tension is on the one pin. Since the reserve pins on a Racer are located against the jumpers back they are better protected from an accidental reserve deployment as well. Jump shack explains it in question number 8 HERE"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #8 April 2, 2007 >Actually, 2 pins reduces the amount of force compared to a one pin system . . . A few other advantages: 1) You can route an RSL to each pin. Thus, your reserve will not be deployed unless BOTH risers are gone. I think a foreign student rig uses such a system. 2) With external pilot chutes, the external PC cannot rotate. I never saw a problem with an external single-pin PC rotating, but John Sherman seems to think it's significant. 3) Slightly more resistance to premature deployments. Some drawbacks: 1) Complexity; two pins to bend and/or jam 2) Can cause an odd-angle PC launch if the pins clear at slightly different times Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
77r 0 #9 April 2, 2007 Great answers/explanations... Thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dragon2 0 #10 April 2, 2007 QuoteI think a foreign student rig uses such a system PdF's Atom does, with the LOR system, also available on sport rigs. But AFAIK for Atoms it's 2 pins into 2 loops into one AAD cutter. I . My Atom was already modded to 1pin/single side RSL when I got it. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
dragon2 0 #10 April 2, 2007 QuoteI think a foreign student rig uses such a system PdF's Atom does, with the LOR system, also available on sport rigs. But AFAIK for Atoms it's 2 pins into 2 loops into one AAD cutter. I . My Atom was already modded to 1pin/single side RSL when I got it. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites