jumper03 0 #1 March 29, 2007 So lets say you have a wiseass that has an over inflated sense of her tracking and swears she can out track you... I'm thinking the best way to settle this is a three way with the third person being an impartial observer, maybe even with video. Exit into an open accordian with the wise ass and myself parallel, the observer says go and we both take off, who ever gets the furtherest away wins. Anyone got a better or simpler idea????Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #2 March 29, 2007 GPS? That might be better for getting an accurate measure of "furtherest." "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #3 March 29, 2007 GPS would be the most accurate but to keep it simple try this: Exit into a round. Then in the same direction. Call of the contest at, lets say 4K... Whoever is ahead obviously won.Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #4 March 29, 2007 QuoteGPS? That might be better for getting an accurate measure of "furtherest." i knew someone would get a kick out of that.... edit to add: and gps violates the simple rule.Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #5 March 29, 2007 where is sudsy at!!!!Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeterB 0 #6 March 29, 2007 Well you can kinda run into a problem with the three man configuration. Say the wiseass has a different tracking style than you. Really fast track but not entirely flat. You on the other hand flat track like a skinny mofo with huge legs and arms. Not superfast horisontally but so flat wingsuit fliers are unable to dock. The third dude goes "oh WTF" and about 5 seconds onto the video the camera alternates wildly between the low dude and the high dude. It's sucky video but the story behind is kinda funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HillerMyLife 0 #7 March 29, 2007 QuoteWell you can kinda run into a problem with the three man configuration. Say the wiseass has a different tracking style than you. Really fast track but not entirely flat. You on the other hand flat track like a skinny mofo with huge legs and arms. Not superfast horisontally but so flat wingsuit fliers are unable to dock. The third dude goes "oh WTF" and about 5 seconds onto the video the camera alternates wildly between the low dude and the high dude. It's sucky video but the story behind is kinda funny. This happened to me last weekend. I happen to be one of those longer jumpers and a buddy of mine isn't so much. Isn't it better to flat track and cover more distance with a slower fall rate than to speed off but more or less in a head down track?? I thought the whole purpose of tracking was to get separation...yeah I can go fast too but thats not really the point is it??Someday Never Comes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #8 March 29, 2007 I'd say that flat and far should be equally important in the race so you would have to stay side-by-side on the track. This would give an advantage to the flatter tracker as the steeper one would waste energy trying to stay up. Smoke ass, Steven.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #9 March 29, 2007 What's better is to but the most horizontal distance between you and the formation before you pull no matter what your tracking style is.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OSOK 0 #10 March 29, 2007 Just exit one after the other, both commecing the track in a certain direction right away. Have a predetermined pull alt for both, and whoever is furthes AND highest at pull time wins! Done it before, and it's as simple as it gets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 330 #11 March 29, 2007 Do it like any tracking contest. Get out one after another, track perpendicular to the jump run, open at the same planned altitude, see who went farther. Of course, the tracking contests usually get a jump run offset by a mile or so, if exiting from 12.5k, otherwise you might not make it back to the DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #12 March 29, 2007 Yeah, when we did this, we opened high to alleviate the making it back problem. Since we were so far off jump run, it's not a big issue opening a bit higher than everyone. Just make sure you let everyone on the load know what the plan is.God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdy2skydive 0 #13 March 29, 2007 Since I am the "wiseass" in question, I say ... Bring it on Southern Boy. But are you sure you want so many witnesses to your humiliating defeat? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #14 March 29, 2007 QuoteSince I am the "wiseass" in question, I say ... Bring it on Southern Boy. But are you sure you want so many witnesses to your humiliating defeat? Edit to add: If you were Native american you could be known as "woman who track with lead in pants" Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #16 March 29, 2007 QuoteJust exit one after the other, both commecing the track in a certain direction right away. Have a predetermined pull alt for both, and whoever is furthes AND highest at pull time wins! Done it before, and it's as simple as it gets. If you both pull at the same alt, how is one of you going to be higher than the other? __ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CygnusX-1 43 #17 March 29, 2007 1) Because one will have a snivelly canopy and one will not. 2) Because your alitmeters will not be calibrated the same. 3) Because one will stop, wave off, check for traffic and then pull. The other will just pull in a track to make themselves look better. The real way to find out if you can track is to come to DeLand and get on a dive with Carl Daugherty or Mike J. Then at break-off you will realize you don't know shit about tracking when they leave you as if you are still falling straight down! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #18 March 29, 2007 Quotetrack is to come to DeLand and get on a dive with Carl Daugherty or Mike J. Then at break-off you will realize you don't know shit about tracking when they leave you as if you are still falling straight down! That doesn't settle this dispute.... Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdy2skydive 0 #19 March 29, 2007 If you both pull at the same alt, how is one of you going to be higher than the other? Quote No worries. It's not like he has the guts to actually go through with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumper03 0 #20 March 29, 2007 QuoteIf you both pull at the same alt, how is one of you going to be higher than the other? Quote No worries. It's not like he has the guts to actually go through with it. no you just didn't......Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites apixel 0 #21 March 29, 2007 In our circle, she's known as the MASTER TRACKER ... so I would tread carefully. Disclaimer: "our circle" may or may not be comprised of more than two people. QuoteQuoteIf you both pull at the same alt, how is one of you going to be higher than the other? Quote No worries. It's not like he has the guts to actually go through with it. no you just didn't...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Brian425 0 #22 March 30, 2007 Lisa can TRACK!!! Far and Flat and Straight My money is on her. Borrow the vidiot's jacket with the little wings. You will need it. I have $20 on Lisa. The only time you should look down on someone is when you are offering them your hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumper03 0 #23 March 30, 2007 QuoteLisa can TRACK!!! Far and Flat and Straight My money is on her. Borrow the vidiot's jacket with the little wings. You will need it. I have $20 on Lisa. I love it!!! Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wildfan75 1 #24 March 30, 2007 Oh, just have a low pull contest. Don't forget to turn off your AAD's. And if both of you have medical bills after, then the one with the cheapest medical bills wins. Far easier to judge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites HillerMyLife 0 #25 March 30, 2007 QuoteQuoteJust exit one after the other, both commecing the track in a certain direction right away. Have a predetermined pull alt for both, and whoever is furthes AND highest at pull time wins! Done it before, and it's as simple as it gets. If you both pull at the same alt, how is one of you going to be higher than the other? Because its likely that one or the other is not as good at tracking as the other(why else would there be so much shit talking going on??). When I track with a shorter, lighter jumper they almost always drop 500'-1000' feet below me. In my opinion that means they automatically lose because they aren't flying a straight flat efficient track in the first place...more of a bullshit track thats an abortion of headdown and tracking.Someday Never Comes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
jumper03 0 #20 March 29, 2007 QuoteIf you both pull at the same alt, how is one of you going to be higher than the other? Quote No worries. It's not like he has the guts to actually go through with it. no you just didn't......Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites apixel 0 #21 March 29, 2007 In our circle, she's known as the MASTER TRACKER ... so I would tread carefully. Disclaimer: "our circle" may or may not be comprised of more than two people. QuoteQuoteIf you both pull at the same alt, how is one of you going to be higher than the other? Quote No worries. It's not like he has the guts to actually go through with it. no you just didn't...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Brian425 0 #22 March 30, 2007 Lisa can TRACK!!! Far and Flat and Straight My money is on her. Borrow the vidiot's jacket with the little wings. You will need it. I have $20 on Lisa. The only time you should look down on someone is when you are offering them your hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumper03 0 #23 March 30, 2007 QuoteLisa can TRACK!!! Far and Flat and Straight My money is on her. Borrow the vidiot's jacket with the little wings. You will need it. I have $20 on Lisa. I love it!!! Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wildfan75 1 #24 March 30, 2007 Oh, just have a low pull contest. Don't forget to turn off your AAD's. And if both of you have medical bills after, then the one with the cheapest medical bills wins. Far easier to judge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites HillerMyLife 0 #25 March 30, 2007 QuoteQuoteJust exit one after the other, both commecing the track in a certain direction right away. Have a predetermined pull alt for both, and whoever is furthes AND highest at pull time wins! Done it before, and it's as simple as it gets. If you both pull at the same alt, how is one of you going to be higher than the other? Because its likely that one or the other is not as good at tracking as the other(why else would there be so much shit talking going on??). When I track with a shorter, lighter jumper they almost always drop 500'-1000' feet below me. In my opinion that means they automatically lose because they aren't flying a straight flat efficient track in the first place...more of a bullshit track thats an abortion of headdown and tracking.Someday Never Comes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
apixel 0 #21 March 29, 2007 In our circle, she's known as the MASTER TRACKER ... so I would tread carefully. Disclaimer: "our circle" may or may not be comprised of more than two people. QuoteQuoteIf you both pull at the same alt, how is one of you going to be higher than the other? Quote No worries. It's not like he has the guts to actually go through with it. no you just didn't...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Brian425 0 #22 March 30, 2007 Lisa can TRACK!!! Far and Flat and Straight My money is on her. Borrow the vidiot's jacket with the little wings. You will need it. I have $20 on Lisa. The only time you should look down on someone is when you are offering them your hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumper03 0 #23 March 30, 2007 QuoteLisa can TRACK!!! Far and Flat and Straight My money is on her. Borrow the vidiot's jacket with the little wings. You will need it. I have $20 on Lisa. I love it!!! Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wildfan75 1 #24 March 30, 2007 Oh, just have a low pull contest. Don't forget to turn off your AAD's. And if both of you have medical bills after, then the one with the cheapest medical bills wins. Far easier to judge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites HillerMyLife 0 #25 March 30, 2007 QuoteQuoteJust exit one after the other, both commecing the track in a certain direction right away. Have a predetermined pull alt for both, and whoever is furthes AND highest at pull time wins! Done it before, and it's as simple as it gets. If you both pull at the same alt, how is one of you going to be higher than the other? Because its likely that one or the other is not as good at tracking as the other(why else would there be so much shit talking going on??). When I track with a shorter, lighter jumper they almost always drop 500'-1000' feet below me. In my opinion that means they automatically lose because they aren't flying a straight flat efficient track in the first place...more of a bullshit track thats an abortion of headdown and tracking.Someday Never Comes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Brian425 0 #22 March 30, 2007 Lisa can TRACK!!! Far and Flat and Straight My money is on her. Borrow the vidiot's jacket with the little wings. You will need it. I have $20 on Lisa. The only time you should look down on someone is when you are offering them your hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #23 March 30, 2007 QuoteLisa can TRACK!!! Far and Flat and Straight My money is on her. Borrow the vidiot's jacket with the little wings. You will need it. I have $20 on Lisa. I love it!!! Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildfan75 1 #24 March 30, 2007 Oh, just have a low pull contest. Don't forget to turn off your AAD's. And if both of you have medical bills after, then the one with the cheapest medical bills wins. Far easier to judge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HillerMyLife 0 #25 March 30, 2007 QuoteQuoteJust exit one after the other, both commecing the track in a certain direction right away. Have a predetermined pull alt for both, and whoever is furthes AND highest at pull time wins! Done it before, and it's as simple as it gets. If you both pull at the same alt, how is one of you going to be higher than the other? Because its likely that one or the other is not as good at tracking as the other(why else would there be so much shit talking going on??). When I track with a shorter, lighter jumper they almost always drop 500'-1000' feet below me. In my opinion that means they automatically lose because they aren't flying a straight flat efficient track in the first place...more of a bullshit track thats an abortion of headdown and tracking.Someday Never Comes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
