Cypress failure

[wmw999 1,720]

That post is almost 20 years old; the Cypres being spoken of there is out of date and has been replaced by the Cypres 2

Wendy P.

[The Hundredth Monkey 6]

On 10/14/2004 at 3:22 PM, heltzer said:

Is there any imperical evidence showing the failure rate--including mis-fires--of the Cypress AAD?

I am looking for the rebuttal to the person who believes they are not reliable and/or are dangerous. Something quantitative.

Thanks!

Lawrence

There were two incident's in Australia where the units fired due to faulty sensors.

The sensor company had contacted all companies using the units. Argus and Vigil used the same sensors. Argus and Vigil recalled their affected units.

Cypress waited for a tandem pair to almost die on Mission Beach and the APF covered it up, no incident report.

DZ.com covered it up also.

The thread is still there somewhere. I looked a couple of years ago. was around 2008.


 

[pchapman 218]

"Is that you Rhys?"

Concerning the Mission Beach accident & Cypres' foot dragging on the recall: There was plenty of discussion on DZ but I'm not going to go back and find all the threads again.

Most of us are just happy that much of the constant bickering about 'which AAD is better' is over, compared to back in the early 2000's, when there were all sorts of AAD issues still being found. Electronic AADs were still reliable and a net benefit, but there were bulletins from time to time. There was Argus who seemed plainly incompetent to make a good product, Vigil who seemed careless & sloppy but at least tried to fix issues, and then there was Cypres, with only the very occasional bulletin (after its early years in the 1990s when it was the pioneer in the field) --  but who made their rare problems worse by their immense arrogance.

[gowlerk 1,610]

On 2/13/2023 at 8:01 AM, pchapman said:

Most of us are just happy that much of the constant bickering about 'which AAD is better' is over, compared to back in the early 2000's, when there were all sorts of AAD issues still being found. Electronic AADs were still reliable and a net benefit, but there were bulletins from time to time. There was Argus who seemed plainly incompetent to make a good product, Vigil who seemed careless & sloppy but at least tried to fix issues, and then there was Cypres, with only the very occasional bulletin (after its early years in the 1990s when it was the pioneer in the field) --  but who made their rare problems worse by their immense arrogance.

And then there is Mars with the M2. Just quietly doing their thing with no drama and no issues. (touch wood)

[pchapman 218]

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

And then there is Mars with the M2. Just quietly doing their thing with no drama and no issues. (touch wood)

They came along later.  But yeah they have been able to avoid the problems other companies have had.. (Just one minor bulletin on cracked wiring insulation, on some early cutters.)

[jeanneretjerome 20]

Long time ago, probably a couple of years after the launch of Cypres, I got a misfired with a Cypres 1. I opened at 500m and during deployment my Cypres fired. I landed with 2 canopies. I sent the report to SSK, got a new cutter and jump 5 days later...