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Like certain people for the farm coming over and trashing up ASC spray painting the build and breaking windows.



what is funny here is i dont take you for a liar. but this statement is a lie and you know it...

im going to leave it to you to tell everyone the truth in order to help you protect your karma. if not, then i will tell the truth with the court documents and police records and all..

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...WHY ARE THEY NOT DEFENDING THEMSELVES? Why hide behind the Brainwashed employees??????????????


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I've stayed out of this whole discussion because I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said. But this is a good question. When this issue began generating some publicity in PARACHUTIST and SKYDIVING magazines, I waited for a respone from Ben and/or Cary and was surprised they did not seem interested in explaining or defending themselves.

I jumped a bit with them in Ellijay and have nothing unkind to say about them personally. In fact, I have a very rare photo of Cary when he had about 50 jumps. Both of these guys were on my 400th. By the time I got done packing he had close to 90 jumps. After I returned from the restroom he had 140 dives, and the following week he made his 1000th. I've always admired you guys who have the time & money to crank out the skydives at such a brisk pace.:D

Seriously, this whole ASC/Skyride thing smells real bad. Damn shame.

Cheers,
Jon S.

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im trying to stay on topic so moderators feel free to move this post but did anybody recognize that in this months parachutist that ASC in cedartown and Pell City AL, both now have group memberships??umm werent they both revoked like 3 months ago?
Misprint or what?



My understanding is they will have them through the appeal process.I hope USPA does not start back paddling.Maybe everyone should give their directors a call.

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they were given back group membership pending the outcome of the lawsuit.


Not so.
As I posted before somewhere in this thread, the USPA is reviewing their decision having been contacted by legal council for Casc.Inc.

It has nothing to do what so ever with the impending litigation.
They are two independent separate issues.
B








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As I posted before somewhere in this thread, the USPA is reviewing their decision having been contacted by legal council for Casc.Inc.

I love it.....review pending final DENIAL! What legal basis do they think they have? Membership is a privilege not a right!
Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

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...I love it.....review pending final DENIAL! What legal basis do they think they have? Membership is a privilege not a right!



I thought USPA was a "private" organization and could accept/deny membership at will without regard to idiocy or assholistic activity..
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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Yes, but they must do so in line with their own rules. The USPA received a letter from B&C's lawyer (although my impression was not that it was any formal request for a review of their decision and more just a bitch). The USPA accepted that letter as a request for an appeal. I think that's a very intelligent decision on behalf of the USPA because it means they're going not just by the letter of the book, but are seen to be going above and beyond and thus cannot be criticized for not giving B&C a fair time.

It's also entirely fair that a proportion the board didn't vote. Those who didn't are DZO's; they could be seen as having a conflict of interest. It is again a very intelligent call keeping them out of the voting procedure. I'm amazed some point to this decision as a way of suggesting the vote in some way lacked legitimacy – it's the very thing that maintained the legitimacy of the board's decision.

I would be surprised if the decision was not upheld on appeal. But the very fact that the USPA took the letter as a request for an appeal will in itself only add to the weight of their final decision. I welcome the move as it will remove any scope for reasoned criticism of the final outcome.

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...above and beyond and thus cannot be criticized for not giving B&C a fair time. .



Good stuff. Kinda like "OK, we'll verify our stance one more time to ensure that we aren't screwing you for no valid reason."

I, at first knee-jerk reaction, liked the idea of, "OK, you were warned and you ignored the warning so buzz off."

Funny story but relevant..
Went to Morocco in the early 70s. Landed at Fez and was pulled out of line at customs. Sat in a little green room for 4 hours. Finally a customs agent comes back and says "Follow me." He led be back out onto the tarmac and escorted me onto a plane back to Spain saying, "We don't want you or your kind in our country." I was an obvious "hippie" at the time.

Summarily dismissed from the country. B&C's dismissal was/is at least reviewed and voted.
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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TEAM ONE WENT TO THE FARM AND JUMPED ABOUT A MONTH AND WE WENT BACK TO ASC THE ONLY DIFFRENCE IS JUMP ALOT AND PARTY AFTER OR JUMP A FEW AND PARTY AFTER IT DOSENT EVEN MATTER WE ARE ALL SKYDIVERS IN THE END ITS JUST WHAT U WONT TO DO WITH YOUR TIME IN THE SPORT



Hmmm, partied a lot lately, have you? :S

ciel bleu,
Saskia

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TEAM ONE WENT TO THE FARM AND JUMPED ABOUT A MONTH AND WE WENT BACK TO ASC THE ONLY DIFFRENCE IS JUMP ALOT AND PARTY AFTER OR JUMP A FEW AND PARTY AFTER IT DOSENT EVEN MATTER WE ARE ALL SKYDIVERS IN THE END ITS JUST WHAT U WONT TO DO WITH YOUR TIME IN THE SPORT



Hmmm, partied a lot lately, have you? :S



Either that or him and Cary had the same english class.:S

j
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TEAM ONE WENT TO THE FARM AND JUMPED ABOUT A MONTH AND WE WENT BACK TO ASC THE ONLY DIFFRENCE IS JUMP ALOT AND PARTY AFTER OR JUMP A FEW AND PARTY AFTER IT DOSENT EVEN MATTER WE ARE ALL SKYDIVERS IN THE END ITS JUST WHAT U WONT TO DO WITH YOUR TIME IN THE SPORT



Hmmm, partied a lot lately, have you? :S



Either that or him and Cary had the same english class.:S

j



I'm having a really hard time giving this person any credibility and I don't know if it's the all-caps or the indication of a low-level education....or it he/she an English-as-a-second-language person....I dunno....
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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TEAM ONE WENT TO THE FARM AND JUMPED ABOUT A MONTH AND WE WENT BACK TO ASC THE ONLY DIFFRENCE IS JUMP ALOT AND PARTY AFTER OR JUMP A FEW AND PARTY AFTER IT DOSENT EVEN MATTER WE ARE ALL SKYDIVERS IN THE END ITS JUST WHAT U WONT TO DO WITH YOUR TIME IN THE SPORT



Hmmm, partied a lot lately, have you? :S



Either that or him and Cary had the same english class.:S

j



I'm having a really hard time giving this person any credibility and I don't know if it's the all-caps or the indication of a low-level education....or it he/she an English-as-a-second-language person....I dunno....



I remember an English teacher once telling me that I didn't need to learn English so I could use proper English in every circumstance, but I needed to learn it so that if I ever wanted to I could use it! Now, I look at a post like this, and it rings sooooo true! When you have to read it 3 or 4 times just to try to figure out what the person is trying to say because it's one long nonsensical, run on sentence, you just can't help but think 'IDIOT'!!!

Here, I'll paraphrase what Sunman's trying to say for any of you having a hard time with it.

"Now lets go skydive drink party go across the street drink skydive party I like those people because they’re farmers and drink and I don’t like these people because they party skydive drink have fun but I have fun with my friends and party here but then I go there and party and drink and have fun but they’re nice to me and I’m nice to them but we all jump and party when we’re jumping and drinking here or there CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG"

Duah!

Martin
Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else.

AC DZ

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Sorry for the cap locks.and i did drop out of the 9th grade but its good to see you bitchin about something else for a change.but if really matters.half the people i know with an education are druged out or work at factorys but who cares i dont.the problem is you dont get to watch your soaps so you have to make one up live life do dwell on shit that dosent really matters and fare as my credit goes its good ive done everything i said i would and u havnt seen nothing yet!
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sunman,

Sorry, but this isn't a busybody created soap opera, but a legitimate complaint against business owners with really bad business ethics. I live on the west coast and am about as removed as anyone from the topic and I completely agree with the complaints against Skyride/ASC.

Furthermore, we really do have a hard time trying to figure out what you are saying when you use poor grammar. Please make a better effort if you want us to actually understand what you are writing.

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I SAW STEWART RIP UP THE X AT THE DZ IN A DRUNKEN STATE BUT IF WHO CARES THOSE GUYS ARE GONE WASNT ENOGH WORK FOR THEM AT THE FARM I GUESS

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SHEMALE***WERE RICH BITCH



its all about the money for you isnt it?

have fun with that.

"your not rich" ben and cary are, with the money they stole from alot of peeps.

sunman, think in reality here. do you think that if you died and they tried to steel money from your family during a fundraiser, that i would give a shit?

of course i would, and so would you. you making "dirty" money. no matter haow you look at it, it is dirty money.

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