mbondvegas 0 #1 January 8, 2008 I just noticed today that Skydive Las Vegas is no longer in the DZ listing on this site. I assume they did not think that the mostly negative reviews were beneficial to their business.- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #2 January 8, 2008 If that's why, I'm not surprised. They're a tandem-only drop zone, right? DZO Michael Hawkes? Yeah, he's not too well liked, from what I remember. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #3 January 8, 2008 Quote If that's why, I'm not surprised. They're a tandem-only drop zone, right? DZO Michael Hawkes? Yeah, he's not too well liked, from what I remember. I seem to remember that Michael sold teh operation to another person awhile back... I could be wrong but I seem to remember noting something about that.. Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #4 January 8, 2008 Quote Quote If that's why, I'm not surprised. They're a tandem-only drop zone, right? DZO Michael Hawkes? Yeah, he's not too well liked, from what I remember. I seem to remember that Michael sold teh operation to another person awhile back... I could be wrong but I seem to remember noting something about that.. --------------------------------------------------------- Hawkes told me that he sold out to Brent Buckner. He bought a couple commercial properties and walked away from the sport. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #5 January 8, 2008 I am truly surprised that Brent kept the same business model for that place. He was always a great guy who loved the sport. not sure what's got into his head. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #6 January 8, 2008 QuoteI am truly surprised that Brent kept the same business model for that place. He was always a great guy who loved the sport. not sure what's got into his head. ***Maybe he was hungry. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #7 January 8, 2008 Quote I am truly surprised that Brent kept the same business model for that place. He was always a great guy who loved the sport. not sure what's got into his head. Its called money. All three of the DZs in the local Las Vegas area are tandem mills for that tourist dollar. Why do you suppose ALL of the Vegas funjumpers drive 90-100 miles to jump at Skydive Mesquite ? bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unstable 8 #8 January 8, 2008 I've been to the DZ before just to check it out - and I know that that arn't *that* busy. Last I knew they were a tandem factory out of a 206, and Las Vegas has the upjumper population base to support several good DZ. He hits the tourism market REALLY hard - just my .02, but he could make a LOT more money and do well to diversify his customer base. Whatever - the only threat I see to this sport is short-sided visions of how to make a $. =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #9 January 8, 2008 Quote and Las Vegas has the upjumper population base to support several good DZ. The sad part of this statement is that you really believe it. I jumped in Las Vegas at 7 different DZ businesses. I was a TM/I...SL/JM/I at all of them for 20 years. There were/are just too many other places to go jump turbines close, that the population you mention has never supported the local DZs bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #10 January 8, 2008 What came first the chicken or the egg? You were here so I am asking. First let me say the SD Mesquite ROCKS! Now, wasn't SDLV originally a full function DZ at one point? I always thought that the DZ's would not support the Fun jumpers so we all went elsewhere. Hence, Mesquite success with fun jumpers. Crazy thing is that I don't think skydive mesquite is making as much money as he can because he has carefully steered away from that double edged sword but I don't think Brad is starving. For a while, he was working elsewhere to keep the DZ open which just speaks volumes of his commitment to a fun jumpers DZ but, speaking purely from a guess, I think the DZ is self funding now. A DZ In LV COULD have been a tandem factory and gotten the fat dollar up front but when some burp in the industry effects them they won't have the fun jumpers to support the down times. * by burp I mean two other DZ's opening and competing for the same customers. The temporary loss of a turbine when the Change of ownership occured. etc. Another note, a few years ago Brad had to get some engine work done on his 182. That took forever, and he had to rent a plane from another place He was being charged 120 per load and he did not raise the price of the jump tickets. He was spending $64 IIRC every time he sent a full load of fun jumpers. For a while, I remember certain people bitching about itI gotta thank you again ,Bozo, for introducing me to that DZ. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #11 January 8, 2008 Hawkes originally opened Skydive Las Vegas when he left the DZ at the NLV airport. He had a pretty good DZ for quite some time...he even asked me to work for him as a TM/I. I jumped there quite a bit until he instituted the AAD mandatory rule. I had heated words with him and left as did most of his jumper base. A couple years later after he had two fatalities there he banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him. The rule is still in effect under Brent Buckner. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #12 January 8, 2008 Quote Hawkes originally opened Skydive Las Vegas when he left the DZ at the NLV airport. He had a pretty good DZ for quite some time...he even asked me to work for him as a TM/I. I jumped there quite a bit until he instituted the AAD mandatory rule. I had heated words with him and left as did most of his jumper base. A couple years later after he had two fatalities there he banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him. The rule is still in effect under Brent Buckner. I remember those fatalities. What stuck in my craw was Hawkes convincing the Nevada legislature to make that rule statewide. Am I remembering this correctly?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #13 January 8, 2008 Quote Quote I remember those fatalities. What stuck in my craw was Hawkes convincing the Nevada legislature to make that rule statewide. Am I remembering this correctly? kinda sorta bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #14 January 8, 2008 QuoteThe sad part of this statement is that you really believe it. I jumped in Las Vegas at 7 different DZ businesses. I was a TM/I...SL/JM/I at all of them for 20 years. There were/are just too many other places to go jump turbines close, that the population you mention has never supported the local DZs The population of Vegas has grown substantially over the past 20 years. There is no reason that a local DZ could not be successful - if Mormons have a problem with skydiving (the alcohol!) then Mesquite would be in a similar bind. But since people have pointed out to me that the actual distance to Mesquite is no different than from SF to the edge of the Bay Area where the DZs live, may stay the way it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #15 January 8, 2008 Quote I just noticed today that Skydive Las Vegas is no longer in the DZ listing on this site. I assume they did not think that the mostly negative reviews were beneficial to their business. This kind of defeats the purpose of a review if the DZ can come here and delete them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #16 January 8, 2008 Quote Quote I just noticed today that Skydive Las Vegas is no longer in the DZ listing on this site. I assume they did not think that the mostly negative reviews were beneficial to their business. This kind of defeats the purpose of a review if the DZ can come here and delete them. Kinda like Ben and Carey getting their USPA memberships back , aint it ? bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyberdyber 0 #17 January 9, 2008 Quotehe banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him As I remember it, Michael got sued over those fatalities, it cost him a couple hundred thousand to defend himself (he eventually won). Can't imagine why any DZO would do what was in their best interest. http://www.skydiveatlanta.com http://www.musiccityskydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #18 January 9, 2008 QuoteQuotehe banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him As I remember it, Michael got sued over those fatalities, it cost him a couple hundred thousand to defend himself (he eventually won). Can't imagine why any DZO would do what was in their best interest. So you think all funjumpers should be banned from dZs because some asshole sued? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #19 January 9, 2008 QuoteQuotehe banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him As I remember it, Michael got sued over those fatalities, it cost him a couple hundred thousand to defend himself (he eventually won). Can't imagine why any DZO would do what was in their best interest. BZZZZZZZZZZZZT wrong. He got sued over the collision of the cameraflyer with another jumper who survived. It happened well after the AAD imposition. And as I remember the camera guy did not have his AAD turned on. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unstable 8 #20 January 9, 2008 Quote if Mormons have a problem with skydiving (the alcohol!) then Mesquite would be in a similar bind. Nope, no problem at all. =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unstable 8 #21 January 9, 2008 Quote remember those fatalities. What stuck in my craw was Hawkes convincing the Nevada legislature to make that rule statewide. Am I remembering this correctly? Wow. this is new to me. Could someone please elaborate?=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyberdyber 0 #22 January 9, 2008 Oh, God forbid I get a fact "sort of" wrong. The point is he got sued due to fun jumpers and any business owner has the right to do whatever they want with their business. and from SpenceQuoteSo you think all funjumpers should be banned from dZs because some asshole sued? If someone made an endeavour of yours very difficult, stressful, costly, and took all the fun out of it because of someone else's mistake, you probably wouldn't care to do it anymore either. Hmmm.... http://www.skydiveatlanta.com http://www.musiccityskydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #23 January 9, 2008 As I heard it. A lot fo traveling jumpers were landing in town for the thrill of it. so I can see him having issues but the dickhead wouldn't sell me cypres batteries because I was a funjumper. I was due for new ones and I called to see if he had any he said he did but did not want to be bothered looking for them. (he had a display case in his lobby area.) that was the 2nd kick in the teeth I got from him. So from personal expereince he is a dick head. It was sometime after my 2nd encounter that he punched a female packer for because she yelled at him or some shit like that. The guy was (and probably still is) an asshole. He had every right to conduct his business his way but THOSE are the reasons I will always call him a dickhead. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #24 January 9, 2008 Quote Quote if Mormons have a problem with skydiving (the alcohol!) then Mesquite would be in a similar bind. Nope, no problem at all. Yeah there are. You just look under our hair for the horns. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #25 January 9, 2008 You're mormon? There's another twist the mystery of why in the world I like you. You just keep adding thing to the other side of the list.There're a lot more mormons at this weekend than any other I think. 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bozo 0 #7 January 8, 2008 Quote I am truly surprised that Brent kept the same business model for that place. He was always a great guy who loved the sport. not sure what's got into his head. Its called money. All three of the DZs in the local Las Vegas area are tandem mills for that tourist dollar. Why do you suppose ALL of the Vegas funjumpers drive 90-100 miles to jump at Skydive Mesquite ? bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 8 #8 January 8, 2008 I've been to the DZ before just to check it out - and I know that that arn't *that* busy. Last I knew they were a tandem factory out of a 206, and Las Vegas has the upjumper population base to support several good DZ. He hits the tourism market REALLY hard - just my .02, but he could make a LOT more money and do well to diversify his customer base. Whatever - the only threat I see to this sport is short-sided visions of how to make a $. =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #9 January 8, 2008 Quote and Las Vegas has the upjumper population base to support several good DZ. The sad part of this statement is that you really believe it. I jumped in Las Vegas at 7 different DZ businesses. I was a TM/I...SL/JM/I at all of them for 20 years. There were/are just too many other places to go jump turbines close, that the population you mention has never supported the local DZs bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #10 January 8, 2008 What came first the chicken or the egg? You were here so I am asking. First let me say the SD Mesquite ROCKS! Now, wasn't SDLV originally a full function DZ at one point? I always thought that the DZ's would not support the Fun jumpers so we all went elsewhere. Hence, Mesquite success with fun jumpers. Crazy thing is that I don't think skydive mesquite is making as much money as he can because he has carefully steered away from that double edged sword but I don't think Brad is starving. For a while, he was working elsewhere to keep the DZ open which just speaks volumes of his commitment to a fun jumpers DZ but, speaking purely from a guess, I think the DZ is self funding now. A DZ In LV COULD have been a tandem factory and gotten the fat dollar up front but when some burp in the industry effects them they won't have the fun jumpers to support the down times. * by burp I mean two other DZ's opening and competing for the same customers. The temporary loss of a turbine when the Change of ownership occured. etc. Another note, a few years ago Brad had to get some engine work done on his 182. That took forever, and he had to rent a plane from another place He was being charged 120 per load and he did not raise the price of the jump tickets. He was spending $64 IIRC every time he sent a full load of fun jumpers. For a while, I remember certain people bitching about itI gotta thank you again ,Bozo, for introducing me to that DZ. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #11 January 8, 2008 Hawkes originally opened Skydive Las Vegas when he left the DZ at the NLV airport. He had a pretty good DZ for quite some time...he even asked me to work for him as a TM/I. I jumped there quite a bit until he instituted the AAD mandatory rule. I had heated words with him and left as did most of his jumper base. A couple years later after he had two fatalities there he banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him. The rule is still in effect under Brent Buckner. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #12 January 8, 2008 Quote Hawkes originally opened Skydive Las Vegas when he left the DZ at the NLV airport. He had a pretty good DZ for quite some time...he even asked me to work for him as a TM/I. I jumped there quite a bit until he instituted the AAD mandatory rule. I had heated words with him and left as did most of his jumper base. A couple years later after he had two fatalities there he banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him. The rule is still in effect under Brent Buckner. I remember those fatalities. What stuck in my craw was Hawkes convincing the Nevada legislature to make that rule statewide. Am I remembering this correctly?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #13 January 8, 2008 Quote Quote I remember those fatalities. What stuck in my craw was Hawkes convincing the Nevada legislature to make that rule statewide. Am I remembering this correctly? kinda sorta bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #14 January 8, 2008 QuoteThe sad part of this statement is that you really believe it. I jumped in Las Vegas at 7 different DZ businesses. I was a TM/I...SL/JM/I at all of them for 20 years. There were/are just too many other places to go jump turbines close, that the population you mention has never supported the local DZs The population of Vegas has grown substantially over the past 20 years. There is no reason that a local DZ could not be successful - if Mormons have a problem with skydiving (the alcohol!) then Mesquite would be in a similar bind. But since people have pointed out to me that the actual distance to Mesquite is no different than from SF to the edge of the Bay Area where the DZs live, may stay the way it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #15 January 8, 2008 Quote I just noticed today that Skydive Las Vegas is no longer in the DZ listing on this site. I assume they did not think that the mostly negative reviews were beneficial to their business. This kind of defeats the purpose of a review if the DZ can come here and delete them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #16 January 8, 2008 Quote Quote I just noticed today that Skydive Las Vegas is no longer in the DZ listing on this site. I assume they did not think that the mostly negative reviews were beneficial to their business. This kind of defeats the purpose of a review if the DZ can come here and delete them. Kinda like Ben and Carey getting their USPA memberships back , aint it ? bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyberdyber 0 #17 January 9, 2008 Quotehe banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him As I remember it, Michael got sued over those fatalities, it cost him a couple hundred thousand to defend himself (he eventually won). Can't imagine why any DZO would do what was in their best interest. http://www.skydiveatlanta.com http://www.musiccityskydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #18 January 9, 2008 QuoteQuotehe banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him As I remember it, Michael got sued over those fatalities, it cost him a couple hundred thousand to defend himself (he eventually won). Can't imagine why any DZO would do what was in their best interest. So you think all funjumpers should be banned from dZs because some asshole sued? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #19 January 9, 2008 QuoteQuotehe banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him As I remember it, Michael got sued over those fatalities, it cost him a couple hundred thousand to defend himself (he eventually won). Can't imagine why any DZO would do what was in their best interest. BZZZZZZZZZZZZT wrong. He got sued over the collision of the cameraflyer with another jumper who survived. It happened well after the AAD imposition. And as I remember the camera guy did not have his AAD turned on. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unstable 8 #20 January 9, 2008 Quote if Mormons have a problem with skydiving (the alcohol!) then Mesquite would be in a similar bind. Nope, no problem at all. =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unstable 8 #21 January 9, 2008 Quote remember those fatalities. What stuck in my craw was Hawkes convincing the Nevada legislature to make that rule statewide. Am I remembering this correctly? Wow. this is new to me. Could someone please elaborate?=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyberdyber 0 #22 January 9, 2008 Oh, God forbid I get a fact "sort of" wrong. The point is he got sued due to fun jumpers and any business owner has the right to do whatever they want with their business. and from SpenceQuoteSo you think all funjumpers should be banned from dZs because some asshole sued? If someone made an endeavour of yours very difficult, stressful, costly, and took all the fun out of it because of someone else's mistake, you probably wouldn't care to do it anymore either. Hmmm.... http://www.skydiveatlanta.com http://www.musiccityskydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #23 January 9, 2008 As I heard it. A lot fo traveling jumpers were landing in town for the thrill of it. so I can see him having issues but the dickhead wouldn't sell me cypres batteries because I was a funjumper. I was due for new ones and I called to see if he had any he said he did but did not want to be bothered looking for them. (he had a display case in his lobby area.) that was the 2nd kick in the teeth I got from him. So from personal expereince he is a dick head. It was sometime after my 2nd encounter that he punched a female packer for because she yelled at him or some shit like that. The guy was (and probably still is) an asshole. He had every right to conduct his business his way but THOSE are the reasons I will always call him a dickhead. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #24 January 9, 2008 Quote Quote if Mormons have a problem with skydiving (the alcohol!) then Mesquite would be in a similar bind. Nope, no problem at all. Yeah there are. You just look under our hair for the horns. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #25 January 9, 2008 You're mormon? There's another twist the mystery of why in the world I like you. You just keep adding thing to the other side of the list.There're a lot more mormons at this weekend than any other I think. You can tell because they ride up on bicycles. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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jtval 0 #10 January 8, 2008 What came first the chicken or the egg? You were here so I am asking. First let me say the SD Mesquite ROCKS! Now, wasn't SDLV originally a full function DZ at one point? I always thought that the DZ's would not support the Fun jumpers so we all went elsewhere. Hence, Mesquite success with fun jumpers. Crazy thing is that I don't think skydive mesquite is making as much money as he can because he has carefully steered away from that double edged sword but I don't think Brad is starving. For a while, he was working elsewhere to keep the DZ open which just speaks volumes of his commitment to a fun jumpers DZ but, speaking purely from a guess, I think the DZ is self funding now. A DZ In LV COULD have been a tandem factory and gotten the fat dollar up front but when some burp in the industry effects them they won't have the fun jumpers to support the down times. * by burp I mean two other DZ's opening and competing for the same customers. The temporary loss of a turbine when the Change of ownership occured. etc. Another note, a few years ago Brad had to get some engine work done on his 182. That took forever, and he had to rent a plane from another place He was being charged 120 per load and he did not raise the price of the jump tickets. He was spending $64 IIRC every time he sent a full load of fun jumpers. For a while, I remember certain people bitching about itI gotta thank you again ,Bozo, for introducing me to that DZ. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #11 January 8, 2008 Hawkes originally opened Skydive Las Vegas when he left the DZ at the NLV airport. He had a pretty good DZ for quite some time...he even asked me to work for him as a TM/I. I jumped there quite a bit until he instituted the AAD mandatory rule. I had heated words with him and left as did most of his jumper base. A couple years later after he had two fatalities there he banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him. The rule is still in effect under Brent Buckner. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #12 January 8, 2008 Quote Hawkes originally opened Skydive Las Vegas when he left the DZ at the NLV airport. He had a pretty good DZ for quite some time...he even asked me to work for him as a TM/I. I jumped there quite a bit until he instituted the AAD mandatory rule. I had heated words with him and left as did most of his jumper base. A couple years later after he had two fatalities there he banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him. The rule is still in effect under Brent Buckner. I remember those fatalities. What stuck in my craw was Hawkes convincing the Nevada legislature to make that rule statewide. Am I remembering this correctly?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #13 January 8, 2008 Quote Quote I remember those fatalities. What stuck in my craw was Hawkes convincing the Nevada legislature to make that rule statewide. Am I remembering this correctly? kinda sorta bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #14 January 8, 2008 QuoteThe sad part of this statement is that you really believe it. I jumped in Las Vegas at 7 different DZ businesses. I was a TM/I...SL/JM/I at all of them for 20 years. There were/are just too many other places to go jump turbines close, that the population you mention has never supported the local DZs The population of Vegas has grown substantially over the past 20 years. There is no reason that a local DZ could not be successful - if Mormons have a problem with skydiving (the alcohol!) then Mesquite would be in a similar bind. But since people have pointed out to me that the actual distance to Mesquite is no different than from SF to the edge of the Bay Area where the DZs live, may stay the way it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #15 January 8, 2008 Quote I just noticed today that Skydive Las Vegas is no longer in the DZ listing on this site. I assume they did not think that the mostly negative reviews were beneficial to their business. This kind of defeats the purpose of a review if the DZ can come here and delete them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #16 January 8, 2008 Quote Quote I just noticed today that Skydive Las Vegas is no longer in the DZ listing on this site. I assume they did not think that the mostly negative reviews were beneficial to their business. This kind of defeats the purpose of a review if the DZ can come here and delete them. Kinda like Ben and Carey getting their USPA memberships back , aint it ? bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyberdyber 0 #17 January 9, 2008 Quotehe banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him As I remember it, Michael got sued over those fatalities, it cost him a couple hundred thousand to defend himself (he eventually won). Can't imagine why any DZO would do what was in their best interest. http://www.skydiveatlanta.com http://www.musiccityskydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #18 January 9, 2008 QuoteQuotehe banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him As I remember it, Michael got sued over those fatalities, it cost him a couple hundred thousand to defend himself (he eventually won). Can't imagine why any DZO would do what was in their best interest. So you think all funjumpers should be banned from dZs because some asshole sued? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #19 January 9, 2008 QuoteQuotehe banned all funjumpers for reasons known only to him As I remember it, Michael got sued over those fatalities, it cost him a couple hundred thousand to defend himself (he eventually won). Can't imagine why any DZO would do what was in their best interest. BZZZZZZZZZZZZT wrong. He got sued over the collision of the cameraflyer with another jumper who survived. It happened well after the AAD imposition. And as I remember the camera guy did not have his AAD turned on. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 8 #20 January 9, 2008 Quote if Mormons have a problem with skydiving (the alcohol!) then Mesquite would be in a similar bind. Nope, no problem at all. =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 8 #21 January 9, 2008 Quote remember those fatalities. What stuck in my craw was Hawkes convincing the Nevada legislature to make that rule statewide. Am I remembering this correctly? Wow. this is new to me. Could someone please elaborate?=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyberdyber 0 #22 January 9, 2008 Oh, God forbid I get a fact "sort of" wrong. The point is he got sued due to fun jumpers and any business owner has the right to do whatever they want with their business. and from SpenceQuoteSo you think all funjumpers should be banned from dZs because some asshole sued? If someone made an endeavour of yours very difficult, stressful, costly, and took all the fun out of it because of someone else's mistake, you probably wouldn't care to do it anymore either. Hmmm.... http://www.skydiveatlanta.com http://www.musiccityskydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #23 January 9, 2008 As I heard it. A lot fo traveling jumpers were landing in town for the thrill of it. so I can see him having issues but the dickhead wouldn't sell me cypres batteries because I was a funjumper. I was due for new ones and I called to see if he had any he said he did but did not want to be bothered looking for them. (he had a display case in his lobby area.) that was the 2nd kick in the teeth I got from him. So from personal expereince he is a dick head. It was sometime after my 2nd encounter that he punched a female packer for because she yelled at him or some shit like that. The guy was (and probably still is) an asshole. He had every right to conduct his business his way but THOSE are the reasons I will always call him a dickhead. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #24 January 9, 2008 Quote Quote if Mormons have a problem with skydiving (the alcohol!) then Mesquite would be in a similar bind. Nope, no problem at all. Yeah there are. You just look under our hair for the horns. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #25 January 9, 2008 You're mormon? There's another twist the mystery of why in the world I like you. You just keep adding thing to the other side of the list.There're a lot more mormons at this weekend than any other I think. You can tell because they ride up on bicycles. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
