highfly 0 #1 May 14, 2009 Anyone got any suggestions or offerings of a decent Jump Plane for the RNZAF? http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2407060/Air-force-seeks-plane-suitable-to-jump-from www.myspace.com/durtymac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raceface 0 #2 May 14, 2009 "fitted with a large side door that allows tandem jumpers and parachutists loaded with equipment to jump out safely. They also have to be able to exit without hitting aircraft surfaces, especially the tail plane" isn't tailgate better solution than "large side door"??my pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #3 May 14, 2009 that's what they need en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Arava^ that.. or an An-2 scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raceface 0 #4 May 14, 2009 and what about this (which is in fact antonov too) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_M-28my pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raceface 0 #5 May 14, 2009 cargo jump from An-28my pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #6 May 14, 2009 Suggestions go in this order: Single-engine: PAC 750 - made in NZ, but a few wingsuiters have hit the tail. Cessna Caravan - long service, and only a few idiots have hit tail plane Quest Kodiak - new design with only one year's service, but one vidiot managed to hit tail plane. Quest engineers are working to redesign floater steps to reduce risk. The only way to completely eliminate the risk of tail strikes is a T-tail (Pilatus PC-12) or ramp under the tail. Ramps are limited to twins of Skyvan or larger size. Skyvan An-28 CASA 212 dHC-4 Cariboo and bigger To solve the same dilemma, the Canadian Air Farce leases Twin Otters and CASA 212. US, Dutch, German, etc. armies solve the problem by sending paratroopers to train at Skydive Arizona. Some military training dives are done from Twin Otters, but all the heavy equipment drops are done from Skyvans. Other Southern USA DZs (eg. Perris Valley, California) often lease their Skyvans to the US Army Freefall School in Yuma, Arizona. Another HUGE issue is matching the size of the airplane to the size of the mission. C-130s are really only financially viable when transporting large numbers of paratroopers short distances or small numbers of special forces long distances. For short range training missions, C-130s are "too capable" and too expensive, ergo the RNZAF would be better off leasing something like Skyvans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #7 May 14, 2009 Didn't the company that recently put Twin Otters back into production actually buy the rights to all of DHC's designs, not just the Twin Otter? Or am I mistaken?? If I'm not mistaken, then, couldn't they, in theory, put the Carabiou back into production too? Although, I'm not sure I'd like to get into a "scare-a-bou" again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettski74 0 #8 May 14, 2009 Viking Air is the company producing Twin Otters, now. They own the type certificate for the DHC aircraft up to the Dash-7, including the Caribou, however, I don't know that they've announced any plans to restart production of anything other than the DHC-6. I believe that they're only providing parts and support for the other types. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #9 May 16, 2009 Viking has hinted that new-production DHC-5 buffalo would be good replacements for the old Buffalos flown by Canadian air Force Search and Rescue Squadrons, but they are competing with the Italian G-222 (aka Spartan) and an Indonesian airplane that is also a twin turboprop. Don't hold your breath on re-opening the Buffalo production line unless our next prime minister is elected in Viking's riding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites