benpat 0 #1 August 16, 2009 Mine's 1800 feet...I've used it 3 times. It's just an altitude I've chosen.........How many feet does it take for a reserve to deploy in a high/low speed malfunction anyway? Is there any one out there with hard facts?...Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ketia0 0 #2 August 16, 2009 my hard deck is 2500. I learned it in STP training, and dont see any reason to go lower than that. i pitch at about 4 grand. "In this game you can't predict the future. You just have to play the odds. "-JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benpat 0 #3 August 16, 2009 I'm meaning,in a malfunctionQuote what's the lowest you would go, before going for your reserve!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ketia0 0 #4 August 16, 2009 2500.. if i dont have a canopy thats S^3 ( square, stable, and steerable) at 2500 feet, im chopping and going to reserve. i like this whole being able to skydive each weekend thing. Lower, and you could run the risk of not getting enough fabric out. at elast thats what i was told.. and ill fly with it. "In this game you can't predict the future. You just have to play the odds. "-JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites robskydiv 0 #5 August 16, 2009 1800'? I thought you ,eant for your main. Oh well... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ketia0 0 #6 August 16, 2009 yea, its jsut a safety practice my instructor taught me, and i really liked it. i dont think i would like going under 2500 w/o a good canopy. well. maybe once i have a c or d license.. "In this game you can't predict the future. You just have to play the odds. "-JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GaryRay 0 #7 August 16, 2009 mine is 1.5k. and yours will change as you get more jumps, i dont pull til 2.5k lolJewBag. www.jewbag.wordpress.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #8 August 16, 2009 Quotemine is 1.5k. and yours will change as you get more jumps, i dont pull til 2.5k lol Same here. I used to pull my main right at 2K, sometimes a hair lower for hundreds of jumps. Nowadays with 2 girls at home, 2.5K and sometimes 3K if we get hosed on the spot."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites keithbar 1 #9 August 16, 2009 1200 but the old don't try this a home applys....i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites d123 1 #10 August 16, 2009 1500 because under 1500 I'll also go to silver instead of main. Makes things more easy. I also put the auditiv last warning on 1500. But that's just me!Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites unclekenny01 0 #11 August 16, 2009 Mine is 2000ft. But I ralley open my main that low. If you have a malfunction at say 3000 you can lose 1000ft in seconds and if there is any other problem with cutting your main away you might be geting very low. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites virgin-burner 1 #12 August 16, 2009 initiating main: 3500ft deciding to pull silver (not without going for "oh sit") at 1500: that should give me plenty of time.. oh, and maybe, dont do that drill while over a forest or some hill; THAT might fuck up your day, to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #13 August 16, 2009 Quote ...How many feet does it take for a reserve to deploy in a high/low speed malfunction anyway? Reserves can open in as little as 250', even less. Sometimes they might take a little more room, so don't cut it that close. I've chopped as low as ~1200' from a spinner. Everything was fine, but I had to pick a landing spot fairly quickly. I always arch when I cutaway and I use an RSL, so I tend to get nice, fast, clean reserve openings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites labrys 0 #14 August 16, 2009 1600'Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #15 August 16, 2009 Fight all the way down, like your life depends upon it.... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wildcard451 0 #16 August 16, 2009 1800' I don't like pulling below 3k, just due to the fact that I love hop adn pops, and as I have moved to the katana, I prefer to have a bit of time before entering my pattern at ~1700'. Although, will I get out at 2K? in a heartbeat.....but ready to deal with anything immediately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lolimfalling 0 #17 August 17, 2009 500' dont wry guys i have a skyhook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Reginald 0 #18 August 17, 2009 1,800 as per the MINIMUM recommended by the US SIM for B-D license holders. I'd particularly encourage anyone with less than 1,000 jumps that uses a number lower than this to think through it carefully. 1,800 is pretty damn low as is when things are going really badly. The time for the reserve to open is less the issue than the time to recognize a problem and react."We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZigZagMarquis 8 #19 August 17, 2009 Keep pulling handles until blood fills your goggles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lippy 771 #20 August 17, 2009 1800'. A few months ago I had that number in my mind while I had my alti in front of my face and my right hand behind me pulling at that the bridle of a PC-in-tow. Got it out by 2500' I got nuthin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites humbled1 0 #21 August 17, 2009 my hard deck is the planet earth"Tell ya the truth, I don't think this is a brains kind of operation." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Baksteen 84 #22 August 17, 2009 QuoteMine's 1800 feet...I've used it 3 times. It's just an altitude I've chosen.........How many feet does it take for a reserve to deploy in a high/low speed malfunction anyway? Is there any one out there with hard facts?...Thanks. No good canopy by 2000 = reserve procedure Keep fucking up all the way down to 1000 feet: straight to reserve."That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crustySCSA69 0 #23 August 17, 2009 QuoteMine's 1800 feet...I've used it 3 times. It's just an altitude I've chosen.........How many feet does it take for a reserve to deploy in a high/low speed malfunction anyway? Is there any one out there with hard facts?...Thanks. incorrect terminology... you are (in later posts) explaining you mean decision height... hard deck is the lowest altitude at which you will simply pull no matter what the fuck else is happening (e.g. people above you, whatever, at your hardeck, if they are still there, they eat your pilot chute) that being said, my harddeck is 12-1300 ... if I'm there, and your still above me, fuck you, eat this ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pirana 0 #24 August 17, 2009 Hard deck to me means the altitude I will not violate without deploying. That being said, I violated it once. My hard deck for the main (135 Stiletto) is 1800. (Normal throw-out is at 2500). With a mal, it depends on what is happening. Nasty high speed stuff would get chopped immediately (usually in the saddle at 1800). Something I think is fixable, I work it to 1200 at the lowest. Below 1200 it's silver handle time. If for some reason I found myself in freefall at 1200, straight to silver. Not qualified for this to be advice; it's just what I do. I run thru this in my head every single plane ride." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rdufokker 6 #25 August 17, 2009 In the day, it used to be C-182's and on those winter days when you could only get 5000ft, you would take a 4 way off and turn 4 or 5 points and break at somewhere just above 2000ft track for a couple of seconds and pull. But those canopies did not snivel and opened in 300 to 400 feet. If you had anything that sniveled like the canopies of today you would chop it and still be under reserve by 800-1000ft. With today's canopies the snivel is normal but it also could get you in the mindset that "well it's a little bit of a long snivel but it will catch soon". I am amazed at how varied the opening DISTANCE is from one jump to another. Pull at the same altitude over and over and you get 400ft difference. So the short of it.....1982 Deland jumping stratostar routinely pull at 1500ft.....2009 Stiletto 120 pull at 3000ft + or - a couple. And straight to reserve if below 2000ft.Irony: "the History and Trivia section hijacked by the D.B. Cooper thread" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Ketia0 0 #4 August 16, 2009 2500.. if i dont have a canopy thats S^3 ( square, stable, and steerable) at 2500 feet, im chopping and going to reserve. i like this whole being able to skydive each weekend thing. Lower, and you could run the risk of not getting enough fabric out. at elast thats what i was told.. and ill fly with it. "In this game you can't predict the future. You just have to play the odds. "-JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robskydiv 0 #5 August 16, 2009 1800'? I thought you ,eant for your main. Oh well... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ketia0 0 #6 August 16, 2009 yea, its jsut a safety practice my instructor taught me, and i really liked it. i dont think i would like going under 2500 w/o a good canopy. well. maybe once i have a c or d license.. "In this game you can't predict the future. You just have to play the odds. "-JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaryRay 0 #7 August 16, 2009 mine is 1.5k. and yours will change as you get more jumps, i dont pull til 2.5k lolJewBag. www.jewbag.wordpress.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #8 August 16, 2009 Quotemine is 1.5k. and yours will change as you get more jumps, i dont pull til 2.5k lol Same here. I used to pull my main right at 2K, sometimes a hair lower for hundreds of jumps. Nowadays with 2 girls at home, 2.5K and sometimes 3K if we get hosed on the spot."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #9 August 16, 2009 1200 but the old don't try this a home applys....i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d123 1 #10 August 16, 2009 1500 because under 1500 I'll also go to silver instead of main. Makes things more easy. I also put the auditiv last warning on 1500. But that's just me!Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclekenny01 0 #11 August 16, 2009 Mine is 2000ft. But I ralley open my main that low. If you have a malfunction at say 3000 you can lose 1000ft in seconds and if there is any other problem with cutting your main away you might be geting very low. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #12 August 16, 2009 initiating main: 3500ft deciding to pull silver (not without going for "oh sit") at 1500: that should give me plenty of time.. oh, and maybe, dont do that drill while over a forest or some hill; THAT might fuck up your day, to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #13 August 16, 2009 Quote ...How many feet does it take for a reserve to deploy in a high/low speed malfunction anyway? Reserves can open in as little as 250', even less. Sometimes they might take a little more room, so don't cut it that close. I've chopped as low as ~1200' from a spinner. Everything was fine, but I had to pick a landing spot fairly quickly. I always arch when I cutaway and I use an RSL, so I tend to get nice, fast, clean reserve openings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #14 August 16, 2009 1600'Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #15 August 16, 2009 Fight all the way down, like your life depends upon it.... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #16 August 16, 2009 1800' I don't like pulling below 3k, just due to the fact that I love hop adn pops, and as I have moved to the katana, I prefer to have a bit of time before entering my pattern at ~1700'. Although, will I get out at 2K? in a heartbeat.....but ready to deal with anything immediately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lolimfalling 0 #17 August 17, 2009 500' dont wry guys i have a skyhook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #18 August 17, 2009 1,800 as per the MINIMUM recommended by the US SIM for B-D license holders. I'd particularly encourage anyone with less than 1,000 jumps that uses a number lower than this to think through it carefully. 1,800 is pretty damn low as is when things are going really badly. The time for the reserve to open is less the issue than the time to recognize a problem and react."We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #19 August 17, 2009 Keep pulling handles until blood fills your goggles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 771 #20 August 17, 2009 1800'. A few months ago I had that number in my mind while I had my alti in front of my face and my right hand behind me pulling at that the bridle of a PC-in-tow. Got it out by 2500' I got nuthin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humbled1 0 #21 August 17, 2009 my hard deck is the planet earth"Tell ya the truth, I don't think this is a brains kind of operation." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #22 August 17, 2009 QuoteMine's 1800 feet...I've used it 3 times. It's just an altitude I've chosen.........How many feet does it take for a reserve to deploy in a high/low speed malfunction anyway? Is there any one out there with hard facts?...Thanks. No good canopy by 2000 = reserve procedure Keep fucking up all the way down to 1000 feet: straight to reserve."That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustySCSA69 0 #23 August 17, 2009 QuoteMine's 1800 feet...I've used it 3 times. It's just an altitude I've chosen.........How many feet does it take for a reserve to deploy in a high/low speed malfunction anyway? Is there any one out there with hard facts?...Thanks. incorrect terminology... you are (in later posts) explaining you mean decision height... hard deck is the lowest altitude at which you will simply pull no matter what the fuck else is happening (e.g. people above you, whatever, at your hardeck, if they are still there, they eat your pilot chute) that being said, my harddeck is 12-1300 ... if I'm there, and your still above me, fuck you, eat this ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #24 August 17, 2009 Hard deck to me means the altitude I will not violate without deploying. That being said, I violated it once. My hard deck for the main (135 Stiletto) is 1800. (Normal throw-out is at 2500). With a mal, it depends on what is happening. Nasty high speed stuff would get chopped immediately (usually in the saddle at 1800). Something I think is fixable, I work it to 1200 at the lowest. Below 1200 it's silver handle time. If for some reason I found myself in freefall at 1200, straight to silver. Not qualified for this to be advice; it's just what I do. I run thru this in my head every single plane ride." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rdufokker 6 #25 August 17, 2009 In the day, it used to be C-182's and on those winter days when you could only get 5000ft, you would take a 4 way off and turn 4 or 5 points and break at somewhere just above 2000ft track for a couple of seconds and pull. But those canopies did not snivel and opened in 300 to 400 feet. If you had anything that sniveled like the canopies of today you would chop it and still be under reserve by 800-1000ft. With today's canopies the snivel is normal but it also could get you in the mindset that "well it's a little bit of a long snivel but it will catch soon". I am amazed at how varied the opening DISTANCE is from one jump to another. Pull at the same altitude over and over and you get 400ft difference. So the short of it.....1982 Deland jumping stratostar routinely pull at 1500ft.....2009 Stiletto 120 pull at 3000ft + or - a couple. And straight to reserve if below 2000ft.Irony: "the History and Trivia section hijacked by the D.B. Cooper thread" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
