riggerrob 558 #26 September 27, 2007 Well, it IS French-made, no? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No! It is made in the Pilatus Valley in Switzerland. The valley is named after the retirement home of Pontius Pilate, who is mentioned in the Bible. The Pilatus have been making airplanes since before World War 2. They started out building trainers for the Swiss Air Force, but in the late 1950s branched out into search and rescue airplanes that could land on glaciers, ergo the Pilatus Porter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #27 September 27, 2007 Quote Well, it IS French-made, no? No,it's Swiss build but for an american france is close enoughWell... lots beat me too it already... but, I'll pile on, no, a Porter is not French made. Anyway, guess if can take a dig at the French (I'd love to vist Spain or Belgium or Germany or Switzerland or Italy some day), y'all can take a dig at most American's lack of skill when it comes to geography... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #28 September 27, 2007 QuoteHolds 8 nicely, 9 using a shoe horn, 10 if they are all female japanese freestylists. With the right spinny thing up front, smokin' fast. Oh, 10 sounds if shouldn't be a problem. We've been putting 7 routinely up in Cloverdale in the turbo 206 and someone even said they crammed in 8 once (maybe they were all Japanese female freestylists). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #29 September 27, 2007 I've been in a Porter with 11 jumpers on more than one occassion. Very cosy Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #30 September 27, 2007 Quote I've been in a Porter with 11 jumpers on more than one occassion. Very cosy The one time I rode in it with 10, it included Amazon. Now I know what it feels like to ride in one of those clown cars in the circus.One thing about the Porter is the step. Or should I say, the porch. It's huge. NW Skydiver's Porter has a door on both side. You can launch a chunk out of both sides at once. A formation load from a single plane.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gearless_chris 1 #31 September 27, 2007 Richmond's porter has doors on both sides also. I thought it would be neat to jump one with the trap door so I could get a picture of people leaving both sides."If it wasn't easy stupid people couldn't do it", Duane. My momma said I could be anything I wanted when I grew up, so I became an a$$hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #32 September 27, 2007 QuoteOne thing about the Porter is the step. Or should I say, the porch. It's huge. Apparently the porters that will be used in competition in France don't have steps at all. Good luck... http://www.skyleague.com/pages/news/showArticles.php?story=864 Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #33 September 27, 2007 Hi raptor, QuotePilot's was named Jim Love if I recall He was Jim Lowe, D-855 and the 1969 US National Champion. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #34 September 27, 2007 Quote Quote Holds 8 nicely, 9 using a shoe horn, 10 if they are all female japanese freestylists. With the right spinny thing up front, smokin' fast. Oh, 10 sounds if shouldn't be a problem. We've been putting 7 routinely up in Cloverdale in the turbo 206 and someone even said they crammed in 8 once (maybe they were all Japanese female freestylists). Oh yeah, shouldn't be a problem.7 in a 206?And one wonders why there continue to be incidents with A/C in skydiving.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #35 September 27, 2007 Quote 7 in a 206?And one wonders why there continue to be incidents with A/C in skydiving. Yeah, I had a similar reaction when I read that too and was waiting to see if anyone else noticed. But if you count the pilot... 5 Jumpers + 1 Pilot = 6 in a 206 and, I've seen... 6 Jumpers + 1 Pilot = 7 in a 206... but I care not to see that again... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #36 September 27, 2007 Gross in a 206 is 3300lbs Empty weight is 1750lbs Leaving 1550lbs for fuel, jumpers, pilot, gear. Pilot = 180lbs Jumpers = 200lbs 20 gal fuel = 130lbs Pilot + 5 + fuel = 1310lbs Pilot + 6 + fuel = 1510lbs Pilot + 7 + fuel = 1710lbs I'd be supprised to see one with 8 FAA approved seatbelts.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #37 September 27, 2007 True... but has everything you've seen in skydiving been approved... ? Anyway, I'm just saying I've "seen" 206's with 6 jumpers and a pilot in it... not that I'm ever going to "see" one that up close again... rather, I'll be "someone else" waving it goodbye as it taxis out... ya know, that ol' saying about there are old skydivers and there are bold skydivers... you know the rest... and I'm getting old..er... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #38 September 27, 2007 Quote Jumpers = 200lbs . Not female Japanese freestylers.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #39 September 27, 2007 Quote Quote Jumpers = 200lbs . Not female Japanese freestylers. Yeah... and there are always so many of them running around the DZs here in the States... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #40 September 27, 2007 Quote I'd pay NOT to have to jump from a Porter. YOU just haven't jumped from enough narrow body 182s lately, that's your problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #41 September 27, 2007 How about King Airs? I remember riding in one (I had seat belts), and it was so crammed we even had one skydiver standing facing forward bracing himself against the inside of the cabin. # of skydivers in the plane? 15, with the pilot, 16. With the standard 550 hp engines no less... It was some 10 years ago at a DZ that doesn't exist anymore but the plane is still in service at a different DZ and flown by the same pilot. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #42 September 27, 2007 Quote Quote I'd pay NOT to have to jump from a Porter. YOU just haven't jumped from enough narrow body 182s lately, that's your problem. I have, it really is cramped between the door and the pilot. I prefer the 182 widebodies... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #43 September 27, 2007 Quote Anyway, I'm just saying I've "seen" 206's with 6 jumpers and a pilot in it... not that I'm ever going to "see" one that up close again... rather, I'll be "someone else" waving it goodbye as it taxis out... ya know, that ol' saying about there are old skydivers and there are bold skydivers... you know the rest... and I'm getting old..er... I have never seen a skydiving 206 that didn't have 6 jumpers as its normal load. i have no idea why you think it would be "bold" to get in one with six jumpers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #44 September 27, 2007 Quote Quote Quote I'd pay NOT to have to jump from a Porter. YOU just haven't jumped from enough narrow body 182s lately, that's your problem. I have, it really is cramped between the door and the pilot. I prefer the 182 widebodies... Me too as a jumper, but the narrow bodies climb faster so DZOs like them better. I seem to recall Aggiedave talking about doing tandems out of one; now that's crowded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #45 September 27, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote I'd pay NOT to have to jump from a Porter. YOU just haven't jumped from enough narrow body 182s lately, that's your problem. I have, it really is cramped between the door and the pilot. I prefer the 182 widebodies... Me too as a jumper, but the narrow bodies climb faster so DZOs like them better. I seem to recall Aggiedave talking about doing tandems out of one; now that's crowded. What's crowded is giving the Bass Masters president, who is one giant of a man, an AFF jump out of a narrow C182. The DZ had to put the video guy in the OTHER C182 for a formation load!!! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #46 September 27, 2007 It's got a trap door too, but I think you'll get tired of pushing it all the way to a safe alti to jump. And I tried to tell Billy they are swiss made, but he wouldn't listen... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #47 September 27, 2007 Quote Gross in a 206 is 3300lbs Empty weight is 1750lbs Leaving 1550lbs for fuel, jumpers, pilot, gear. Pilot = 180lbs Jumpers = 200lbs 20 gal fuel = 130lbs Pilot + 5 + fuel = 1310lbs Pilot + 6 + fuel = 1510lbs Pilot + 7 + fuel = 1710lbs I'd be supprised to see one with 8 FAA approved seatbelts. With that attitude you will never make it working in Alaska. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,384 #48 September 27, 2007 > With that attitude you will never make it working in Alaska. Well, to be fair, in Alaska you don't need seatbelts - you just hang on to the float. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #49 September 27, 2007 Curious, does anyone here know the ETA for the new toy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #50 September 27, 2007 Quote Curious, does anyone here know the ETA for the new toy? From their newsletter: QuoteStarting this December we will be flying our newest addition, a Pilatus PorterRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
