JohnMitchell 14 #26 August 26, 2005 Quote>Do you have an example of what you leave out when you're in a > hurry? If so, I'd say that's a wasted move anyway . . . . Yikes! I wouldn't assume that. You could take your canopy, roll up the lines, and stuff it unpacked into a container, and it would still open 75% of the time. But that doesn't mean that stowing lines is a wasted step. Yep, trash packing. I know you remember that fad too. And it worked like crap. I'm saying anyone who packs like that just to make a load deserves a reserve ride. I pack the same way everytime. Sometimes I just put more hustle into it. And I don't do as fussy of a job as some people do. Good is good. It's not brain surgery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Adi 0 #27 August 26, 2005 it depends if its my canopy or a customers as to how i pack. On my own i just run up the left + right line sets rather than doing a full line check (because i know i didnt put any twists in when i landed) Always line check customers canopys. I generally dont count the nose, just pull it back between my legs... wheres it gonna go - its obvious with experience if its caught or twisted. Make sure visually that the lines on the left arent touching the ones on the right, then quater slider. I find that it the slider that controls most of the comfort / cosmetic aspects of the opening. Then anything else canopy specific to assist opening comfort. Then just get it in the bag and leave a good 12 - 18 inches of line before putting in container. When packing for multiple people at once you can save lots of time by not moving around too much. Ive got my pack job down to 2 1/2 - 3mins on my rig (when really going for it!) or consistantly 5 customers on a 20 (ie. 4way team + vid). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 3 #28 August 27, 2005 QuoteI done a hop&pop from 5k and opened around 4000. When did this become a H&P? That is about an 8 to 10 sec. delay. A H&P is a Clear and Pull. Just what it says, clear the a/c and pull. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mdrejhon 8 #29 August 28, 2005 At our dropzone, anything at 5000 feet or under appears to be called a Hop and Pop, no matter how much freefall... Just the way we call 'em... maybe not perfect usage of terminology, but... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EvilLurker 2 #30 August 28, 2005 I think to meet the criteria, it has to be sub-terminal. I think a 4 or 5 second delay (to get stable and bleed off the forward throw) is still considered a hop and pop by most people. I always at least establish a stable heading before I throw a PC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveNFlorida 0 #31 August 28, 2005 QuoteQuoteI think it's valid. You do, i don't. All people have different opinions. It's really no different than saying "don't rush putting your rig on and running to the plane." I don't think it's smart to do that, but other people see no problem with it. Not everyone has to be the same ya know. Different opinions aside, the post made a good point. Just because you landed safely rushing things and skipping steps one time (or many), doesn't mean it won't bite you in the ass another. Anyone can make a mistake when trying too hard to rush so his advice regardless of his time in the sport should be taken seriously. Complacency kills. -A Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites linc_harris 0 #32 August 30, 2005 I can do mine in about 6-8 minutes. However, one time I did it in about about 5min and was BSing with someone; I ended up with a neck-braker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Adi 0 #27 August 26, 2005 it depends if its my canopy or a customers as to how i pack. On my own i just run up the left + right line sets rather than doing a full line check (because i know i didnt put any twists in when i landed) Always line check customers canopys. I generally dont count the nose, just pull it back between my legs... wheres it gonna go - its obvious with experience if its caught or twisted. Make sure visually that the lines on the left arent touching the ones on the right, then quater slider. I find that it the slider that controls most of the comfort / cosmetic aspects of the opening. Then anything else canopy specific to assist opening comfort. Then just get it in the bag and leave a good 12 - 18 inches of line before putting in container. When packing for multiple people at once you can save lots of time by not moving around too much. Ive got my pack job down to 2 1/2 - 3mins on my rig (when really going for it!) or consistantly 5 customers on a 20 (ie. 4way team + vid). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #28 August 27, 2005 QuoteI done a hop&pop from 5k and opened around 4000. When did this become a H&P? That is about an 8 to 10 sec. delay. A H&P is a Clear and Pull. Just what it says, clear the a/c and pull. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #29 August 28, 2005 At our dropzone, anything at 5000 feet or under appears to be called a Hop and Pop, no matter how much freefall... Just the way we call 'em... maybe not perfect usage of terminology, but... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilLurker 2 #30 August 28, 2005 I think to meet the criteria, it has to be sub-terminal. I think a 4 or 5 second delay (to get stable and bleed off the forward throw) is still considered a hop and pop by most people. I always at least establish a stable heading before I throw a PC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #31 August 28, 2005 QuoteQuoteI think it's valid. You do, i don't. All people have different opinions. It's really no different than saying "don't rush putting your rig on and running to the plane." I don't think it's smart to do that, but other people see no problem with it. Not everyone has to be the same ya know. Different opinions aside, the post made a good point. Just because you landed safely rushing things and skipping steps one time (or many), doesn't mean it won't bite you in the ass another. Anyone can make a mistake when trying too hard to rush so his advice regardless of his time in the sport should be taken seriously. Complacency kills. -A Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linc_harris 0 #32 August 30, 2005 I can do mine in about 6-8 minutes. However, one time I did it in about about 5min and was BSing with someone; I ended up with a neck-braker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
