gundoc7519 0 #1 July 11, 2011 I am jumping a vector 3 with a silouhette canopy that is new to me. I spent the weekend at Elsinore and Monday morning looked like someone hit me in the bicep with a bat. Anyone know what is going on with that I am assuming the riser is getting me somehow. Anyone heard of or experienced this? Thanks for the help. Don Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #2 July 11, 2011 you would have to be tumbling for the riser to get ya on the bicep. the culprit is probably the harness. RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnmatrix 21 #3 July 11, 2011 I jump a V3 and get bruises on my arms too. I bruise pretty easily though I don't really worry about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 0 #4 July 11, 2011 FWIW, I jump a different rental rig almost every weekend. I find different bruising from each one. The harnesses tend to be tight, & my pack jobs aren't the smoothest... If the V3 is yours? Ask a rigger to eyeball the fit. Perhaps a resizing or padding are in order. If it's a rental? I vote for "Suck it up, Cupcake." A full weekend of loving is gonna leave some bruises. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #5 July 11, 2011 What kind of jumps were you doing, how were you exiting the plane, and are the bruises medial or lateral? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gundoc7519 0 #6 July 11, 2011 A mixture of 2 way RW and solo's stable at terminal opening. The bruise is up and down the bicep on the inside. A bunch of different exits Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #7 July 11, 2011 hmm... Not a whole lot of ways you could be hitting your inner right bicep on the door unless you're climbing out to the camera step, so that's probably not it. If you're launching two way stars and you take high grips from the inside around the other jumper's arms with the other person holding the bar it's possible for the other jumper's hand to smack your inner bicep on exit. Particularly if the exit timing is a little off. The last thing I can think of is if you're being particularly aggresive when you reach to pull you could be smacking your bicep into the side of the reserve container. Whether or not this is possible depends on container size, fit, and your flexibility. If it was anything besides exit or deployment you'd probably remember it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLIDEANGLE 1 #8 July 11, 2011 That used to happen to me a lot. I realized it was due to me crossing my arms during deployment out of fear of falling out of the harness. Once I stopped that and kept my arms out & up during deployment.... No more bruises.The choices we make have consequences, for us & for others! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gundoc7519 0 #9 July 11, 2011 I guess I will get someone to video it and watch it in slo mo. I will try throwing the PC and arching more see if that helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k-dubjumps 0 #10 July 11, 2011 It's from your harness. I get them mostly on my right arm, but sometimes both arms. Time to suck it up cupcake! I don't think I've ever escaped a weekend of jumping without bruising. Sexy hurts, right? Adrenaline is my crack DPH #3 D.S. #16 FAG #12 Muff Brother #4406 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #11 July 11, 2011 Quote It's from your harness. I get them mostly on my right arm, but sometimes both arms. Time to suck it up cupcake! I don't think I've ever escaped a weekend of jumping without bruising. Sex hurts, right? Fixed it for ya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #12 July 12, 2011 The upper 4 point is a very solid Stitch pattern. When the canopy is opening, the harness is spreading out and the the 4 point (under the mudflaps) is likely hitting you in the arms. Could be wrong but the Likely culprit, small harness. Unable to tighten chest strap enough. If you can tighten the chest strap enough to keep the harness inline, it probably won't hit your arms anymore. Also, your arm position can make it worse. Good luck :)My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muffie 0 #14 July 12, 2011 QuoteThat used to happen to me a lot. I realized it was due to me crossing my arms during deployment out of fear of falling out of the harness. Once I stopped that and kept my arms out & up during deployment.... No more bruises. Kinda the same here. My first 20 jumps or so I had bruises on the insides of my upper arms. My instructor said it was because I was reaching for the risers at deployment time (so basically bringing my arms in too much). After I knew this and consciously thought of keeping my arms wide during deployment and not reaching for the risers until I had a canopy above me I stopped getting the bruises. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotalus01 0 #15 July 12, 2011 Ive had some pretty nasty bruises from people taking grips when I was doing RW in a jumpsuit without grippers, although from your description of the bruise I seriously doubt that is the cause. I think the others hit the nail on the head when they suggest harness spread... As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #16 July 12, 2011 QuoteA mixture of 2 way RW and solo's stable at terminal opening. The bruise is up and down the bicep on the inside. A bunch of different exits I get those once in a while. Its the main lift webbing raking across the inside of my biceps. It doesn't hurt and doesn't bother me. Sometimes an opening sequence doesn't go smoothly and you get turned around or get a jerk and the harness shifts real quick. Note that's just one possible cause."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #17 July 12, 2011 I get these often. It's taken me years to figure it out, but I finally noticed something. When I do RW jumps, I get bruises. When I work as AFF instructor, I don't get bruises. What's the difference? When I do RW jumps, people are sometimes taking grips on my arms. When I'm working as AFF instructor, nobody takes grips on my arms. So, for me - the bruises are caused by other jumpers taking grips on my arms. I've never noticed any pain from this in freefall, but presumably this is due to the adrenaline. Your mileage may vary, of course. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base283 0 #18 July 12, 2011 Maybe the main harness ring? Take care, space Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 143 #19 July 12, 2011 QuoteI am jumping a vector 3 with a silouhette canopy that is new to me. I spent the weekend at Elsinore and Monday morning looked like someone hit me in the bicep with a bat. Anyone know what is going on with that I am assuming the riser is getting me somehow. Anyone heard of or experienced this? Thanks for the help. Don It is from the harness as already stated. I found they went away when I made sure the harness was on firmly.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #20 July 12, 2011 Quote Anyone heard of or experienced this? Thanks for the help. Don Harden up Your body is being sollicited by gear and shocks in places it is not used to. Once you will be bruised enough, your body will toughen up a bit where it needs to.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #21 July 12, 2011 i get them on my left bicep, almost all the time. still haven't figured out why."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #22 July 12, 2011 As everyone else said, likely a poor fitting harness. After I open up and fly around with my chest strap all the way open, I will end up looking like someone beat the hell out my biceps on both sides by the end of the weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sxc 0 #23 July 12, 2011 I get these too. They are not from RW for me, as I can get them on any kind of a jump. I believe they are from the harness hitting you as the canopy opens. I used to get them all the time on rental gear. Then I got my own gear and they stopped. Now I got a new container and I am back to bruises again until I figure out how to tighten it up right! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #24 July 13, 2011 Do you reach up to grab your risers during the opening? If so, check your arm position on your next jump once the canopy is fully opened. Grab the risers the same way you do during opening, and see where the bruised part of your arm falls. I'm betting the large ring on the harness, or the MLW just below it is going to be right in that area. As mentioned before, that's a pretty 'stout' area, and if your arm got in the way of the side-to-side motion of the harness as the canopy opens, it might leave a mark. All it takes is one good shot to cause the bruising, so that might explain why you don't get bruised every time. Additionally, if that jump wasn't your last, the lighter impacts from later jumps would only serve to make the bruising seem worse. Overall, suck it up cupcake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #25 July 13, 2011 Quote Overall, suck it up cupcake. Half the fun of jumping is playing "count the bruises" after a busy weekend and trying to figure out how the fuck that big purple mark got there."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
