Divalent 89 #26 October 10, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I remember now, what helped some is when it's rolled and on the floor in a upside-down triangle, fold each side in twice neatly as possible. Tuck and fold in the bag. There is a link to a website with photos showing the procedure. I forgot the name of the technique, Womack something... Named after a guy who came up with it... I'm sure someone will come along who knows what I'm talking about. Wolmari Pack. http://www.parasale.com/wolmari/wpages/wolmarpack.html Oh wow! I was doing that! Well except I was folding the edges back and under. Flatten out a nice triangle, get all the air out, grab right corner and fold it under, flatten it, then the same thing with the left than the S folds. I'm going to have to give that fold in front thing a shot. But how do you keep that roll to become unrolled? When I fold under, I'm folding over the roll which allows for some better material control. Right? Or you can try psycho packing. You do the same thing (folding, kinda the same) but the fold is upward (since the canopy is "upside down" relative to its pro-pack position), which means you can more easily control it and ensure that your folding isn't messing things up. Another advantage to the psycho pack technique is that after you flop it on the floor, you can peel back the tail wrap and check your nose rolls and slider position without messing things up. Then once you do your side folds, the next step is to roll up the canopy like a sleeping bag, so very easy to control. (and getting it into the bag is much easier too.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodhisattva420 0 #27 October 10, 2011 Lol naw, no line dump ... I think I'm getting "slider dump" because I'm a shitty packer! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpot 1 #28 October 10, 2011 Quote Whenever your lines are insufficiently tighten to slow down the deployment process. Git-'im, Mike! (MJOSparky Mike, that is) Motomike - youz gots some learnin' here now to do. Hopefully, you will zip the "lips" (typing fingers) long enough and allow your "ears" (eyes) to do that job (the ONLY way to ever LEARN) for you.coitus non circum - Moab Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #29 October 11, 2011 QuoteI disagree.... what is the purpose of direct control with stowless bag or BASE? You have 2 things going on when you go to open your parachute. One is deployment and the other is inflation. Deployment for simplicity is from the time the bag leaves you back until you have line stretch. Inflation starts when the canopy starts coming out of the bag until you have a full canopy. Basically nothing that happens before the canopy comes out of the e bag affect the inflation sequence. Obviously there is a lot more going on during this time but that’s about all the average skydiver can digest at one sitting. Line dump on a sports rig is really just an urban legend. I made this bag in the early 90’s to prove a point and put 1000+ jumps on it. Never had a problem with it. Sparky http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/D-bag1.jpg http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/D-bag2.jpg http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/D-bag3.jpg http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/D-bag4.jpgMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marisan 0 #30 October 11, 2011 QuoteQuoteI disagree.... what is the purpose of direct control with stowless bag or BASE? You have 2 things going on when you go to open your parachute. One is deployment and the other is inflation. Deployment for simplicity is from the time the bag leaves you back until you have line stretch. Inflation starts when the canopy starts coming out of the bag until you have a full canopy. Basically nothing that happens before the canopy comes out of the e bag affect the inflation sequence. Obviously there is a lot more going on during this time but that’s about all the average skydiver can digest at one sitting. Line dump on a sports rig is really just an urban legend. I made this bag in the early 90’s to prove a point and put 1000+ jumps on it. Never had a problem with it. Sparky http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/D-bag1.jpg http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/D-bag2.jpg http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/D-bag3.jpg http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/D-bag4.jpg I did a thousand plus using this system with no problems after freestowing lines nearly killed me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marisan 0 #31 October 11, 2011 The early slidered ramairs (Strato Star, Strato Cloud and Strato Flier all had a rubber band tab sewn on the centre of the tail about six inches up from the trailing edge. The slider was pulled up and the apex of the slider was stowed in this rubber band. Never had a problem with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodhisattva420 0 #32 October 11, 2011 They need to bring that shit back! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #33 October 11, 2011 Quote They need to bring that shit back! No they don't. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
